McCartman - 8/30/2011 00:21
SNS in WC IL - I DO NOT need to root to do EVERYTHING I want. I initially rooted to update to 2.2 because of the nicer feature set it had over 1.6.
Everything except run the latest OS version - which proves my point.
Everything but running the latest PRE-RELEASE OS... You're pretty good at quoting out of context... Phone is currently running the latest OTA RELEASED OS, btw... that I rooted AFTER installing.
McCartman - 8/30/2011 00:21
SNS in WC IL - I have chosen to keep my phone rooted to have the ability to try new software releases before they are pushed to the masses.
Perhaps you would like to explain to everyone why you need to root in order to "try" the latest OS? When Apple issues an update, it is freely available to everyone - all at the same time. You can "try" the latest version and if you don't like it, you can revert back to the previous version - no "rootiing" or jailbreaking needed. Heck, I'm starting to think iOS is more open than your so-called "open" Android. ;
)
So you can "try" iOS5 right now? Is it freely available to everyone right now? The only "everyone" that has it right now are developers...
Read what you quoted me again... I did explain. Same as iOS there are pre-release candidates of Android updates that become available BEFORE the final public release. I CHOSE to try the pre-release versions early. If you want to wait for the public release, then it gets pushed to your phone when it's release AUTOMATICALLY. No downloading from iTunes needed... As a matter of fact, I received the latest FREE, RELEASED update OTA just last week...
McCartman - 8/30/2011 00:21
SNS in WC IL - How can you claim Android is not open when you can look at a phone from Motorola, Samsung, and HTC, and have completely different user interfaces?
Easy. I don't care that Android is "open" to the phone manufactureres
(it is, I won't argue that
), but it is NOT "open" to you, the user. If it were, you could do anything and everything you wanted to it without rooting - and you can't. So it is NOT open. You can't even run the latest OS on your phone since the company that built it had it locked down and under their thumb.
Again a nice context limited use of quotes... Did you miss the definition of "Open Source"??? You're arguing that Android isn't open source, but by definition it is... Developers can freely access and write/modify the code. If you so desire, you can obtain the source code and build your own version.
McCartman - 8/30/2011 00:21
Well, if one is trying to convince him or her self that their locked down device is really "open", yes. But where I come from, open source really does mean "open" and free to modify at will.
Here is the link:
http://source.android.com/index.html. Modify at will...
McCartman - 8/30/2011 00:21
SNS in WC IL - You have claimed multiple times that my customizations could only be done because my phone is rooted which is false... 7 of the 145 apps I have loaded on my phone require root to use. Of those 7, only 2 are used regularly.
No sir, it is not false. You have admitted to rooting in order to run an OS version and apps your phone manufacturer and/or carrier has not intended you to run, therefore you you have a customization that required rooting.
I have also admitted that the customizations in question do not require rooting...
I can go to the store, pick up a stock Android phone and have a customized lock screen in less than 5 minutes. No root needed. I don't need to wait for iOS5 because "there's an app for that"... Another example of the "open-ness" of Android. App developers are allowed to "customize" the UI of a STOCK phone.
McCartman - 8/30/2011 00:21
Is customized lock screens part of bone stock Android - meaning without having to add the feature? No, at least not that I am aware of. So therefore how can it be "stolen"?
See above, that's the beauty of Android. You don't have to wait for the OS to offer the feature. Due to it's open nature, developers can offer that functionality on a STOCK phone...
McCartman - 8/30/2011 00:21
SNS in WC IL - Widgets only take up as much space as you want them to.
I am not arguing that. I am saying that widgets, even one of them, takes up home screen space and forces a potentialy high use app icon off to another screen making it time consuming to get to. I'm not buying your app locker argument either. At most, I only had about 20 apps on my Droid - and bringing up the app locker and flicking down thru it to find an app was not very intuitive. Could have been worse, but having shortcuts on the home screen
(s
) was much easier and faster. Having 145 apps would make the app locker method a mess, IMO - but this could be chalked up to user preference.
So wait a second, a Widget
(that may show you the information that you would otherwise have to open the app
) might take place of a high use app
(that you may not have to open because the information is on the Widget
) and that's a bad thing? As for the app drawer, the latest
(free and available to everyone
) version of Android has the option to be sorted by most used so all the potentially high use apps are at the top of the list. 20 per screen, btw...
Assuming you were running 2.2 when you switched to the iPhone, you had 5 home screens that held 16 apps each
(if you chose not to use larger widgets
). You had room for 80 app shortcuts and you couldn't find room for 20? iOS only has 16 placeholders per page, too. I assume you would have to flip through page after page of app shortcuts to find those less used apps since there's one for everything... How is this "better"?
anyone rooting their droid?
