AgTalk Home
AgTalk Home
Search Forums | Classifieds (26) | Skins | Language
You are logged in as a guest. ( logon | register )

No till troubles in heavy clay (gumbo) Solil Life and others
View previous thread :: View next thread
   Forums List -> Crop TalkMessage format
 
Mlebrun
Posted 11/13/2010 11:08 (#1433905 - in reply to #1433794)
Subject: RE: 100's and thousands have given up on Clay soil


SW MN and Gold Canyon AZ
Interesting posts, its a definate "here" thing.
Soil-life the comment on blue or gray clay sure fits sw mn.
add to that the buffalo ridge elevation ,cooler temps cloudy weather and you have a recipe for disaster on no-till. it would take ALOT of management to make no-till work here including waiting maybe for the perfect conditions to plant. I don't have that patience.5 days here can mean the difference between having frosted corn before blacklayer or not. Having everyhting pattern tiled would make things alot easier but I know on rented ground thats probably not going to happen.
Go 25 to 50 miles south and west and no-till or forms of it will probably work better, but then they have the LOESS soils and warmer temps that anyone in my area would love to have.
Before anyone chastisis me on that comment, I HAVE tried it, for several yrs just cound not make the planter"attachments" work in sticky cold soils. Getting in and out of the tractor 100 times a day to clean out sticky soil isn't fun.Looking back maybe a light fall till'disk" might have solved alot of problems. But my operation has changed from the days of a 6 row planter with starter attachments and a host of other no-till attachments to a bare bones 16 row planter get the corn in the ground so I can haul seed.
Managing residue is now key for me, and with all the manure I haul, I got plenty. One pass field cultivate in the spring does all I need to do to make things work right.
Tile on rented ground would solve alot of problems with production.
Top of the page Bottom of the page


Jump to forum :
Search this forum
Printer friendly version
E-mail a link to this thread

(Delete cookies)