As far as I know Bladex is still available. It was used for years for pre em broadleaf weed control in lentils.

I have never used it.

 Matt, the 2kg/ha rate I quoted was off the US Princep 90 label. I just want to throw all guns at this grass, it is a brute.

We have used Simazine pre plant pre em on chickpeas for years.

I did read that Bladex + crop oil applied early post em did a bang up job on fall panicum, with little damage to the corn.

As far as residual goes the more the better in this rotation!.

I'll let you know how it pans out.

Thanks everyone.

Jim.