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ILSTUFH
Posted 9/4/2010 13:38 (#1346416 - in reply to #1344577)
Subject: RE: DK 61-21


Cornfield County
isuagstud - 9/3/2010 01:26

2 Steigers - 9/3/2010 00:16

Wow I'm not alone I feel so much better---not really. Put it on one of my best fields and it came in 10-20 bu. less than everything else that was compareable. Big M needs to realize that if your gonna say you are better than everyone else than you better back it up. I have seen something like this before this may be the first sign of the end of Dekalb's dominince in seed corn. Maybe another Pioneer story.


Everyone has said all along traits protect the yield potential. If the trait is put into a product that does not have a good year, it does not matter how good the traits are. I have 90 acres of 61-22, 50 acres of 61-21 and 30 acres of 61-19 and have 61-19 and 61-21 side by side in my plot. I am curious to see how the different versions do, but if they all suck, it may well mean it was just a bad year for that variety. It happens. Odds are if people planted a bunch of 61-19 they would be just as disappointed but it seems people seem to think every SS variety will be 20 bushels better than anything that does not have SS. That will just not be the case obviously.

Every year, some varieties will just be better than others. Might just be a really poor year for the 61-22 family.


ISU you are dead on. The traits are not affecting the yield. It was just not the right year for that germplasm. The 61-22 family is known for not having strong drought tolerance and needing more rain. It did well in 2008 and 2009 because it had the right conditions. Plenty of rain and cool temps. 61-19/61-21 was so high in demand really because of one thing, it has a better field tolerance to diplodia, which 61-69 and in some cases 63-42 struggled with.

Everyone wants to come out and bash the Big M for SmartStax. This really isn't their baby. Dow started developing SS in the middle 2000s. Go look at a Mycogen book, they have twice the SS that Dekalb does. I uderstand the animosity towards Monsanto, I never agreed with how they have went about things as far as new numbers, pricing and some traits. . I can remember 10-12 years ago when Pioneer was taking over the world, people were pissing and moaning about them, just like they are about Monsanto. So if you want to base your seed buying off of politics, go ahead, Rural King should have plenty of Federated for you. If you want to buy because of what it does in the field and for your bottom line, go ahead. I don't care if its Mycogen, NK, Dekalb, Pioneer, if it performs and makes me money, then I'm plating it. I don't give a rat's a## who owns them.

Edited by ILSTUFH 9/4/2010 16:14
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