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Baby Robin
Posted 10/14/2026 07:45 (#11778161 - in reply to #11777575)
Subject: RE: How to say this politely


Fontanelle, IA
easymoney - 10/13/2026 08:40

oldtiger - 10/13/2026 09:07

You skirted around that pretty good. Again, I'll say no reputable breeder is going to sell anyone a 6 month old prospect are they? If you want to raise your own bull, go for it, nobody cares. No, he's not looking for a bull for his herd, he's looking for a weaning age calf to make a bull. That for someone that most likely wants a reasonable priced bull, won't work out well. If a guy with hundreds of cows that are good AI bred for generations wants to save some bulls out of breed top AI sires, that's a different deal altogether. And you can use all those things you mentioned to help the selection process, but at the end of the day there will still be a big sort on them...or you're doing it wrong. Knock yourself out


You never answered what lessons I'm going to learn

What exactly did I skirt around?

No" reputable breeder" is going to sell a young animal"
Actually the seed stock growers that I've spoke with part of their business is they will sell some of that young prospects as a prospect because it's not making the cut to go through there program but still makes an absolutely magnificent animal for a guy and is herd

So "he's not looking for a bull for his herd. He's looking for a calf to make a bull for his herd". Got it. Thank you .

Who says that the guy he's looking at a calf from or myself or others aren't using AI genetics?

Nowhere in his conversation did he say he found a nice prospect from 30 years of line breeding and its third eye is looking really good and for no teeth it eats well....

" Knock yourself out". On this forum that basically means you're saying " I know that I'm right. I just can't back it up"


Your area is different than mine. My local breeders would NOT sell me a weaning 6-7 month old bull. Those breeders are highly concerned with “reputation management”. They sell bulls based upon “these bulls came from my program and I’d put them back in my herd”.

They don’t sell rejects that don’t fit their program as 1-offs to “strangers on the internet”. Maybe, maybe, maybe…. A breeder might sell an non-program fitting animal to another breeder that is a friend and has a “good” understanding of the fellow breeder friend’s program&type. But, not a stranger from the internet.

Conceptually, I have a hard time with your comment about 1-offs. The bulls either “make it” or “they don’t”. Those same breeders want to ensure each of those keeper bulls are developed the same way, handled the same way, so they can take data away for future decisions. And, want to 2x-5x a weanling bulls value? You do that with 6-8 months more feed and a little interest/money to carry the bull to your sale…..

As for TC- if he wants to buy a weanling bull and raise it up as a “diamond in the rough” prospect for cheap, I’ll pass along some of dads wisdom (that he probably thinks I didn’t listen and retain because I’m too hard headed)

1. Bulls are not lone solitary creatures. They are NOT to be raised that way. Want a bull to get “mean” - keep him by himself and lonesome. TC and his wife will grow quite fond of Jr - fight the “actions” where you turn him into a pet as eventually JR Pet will get you and break you on a bad day or a hungry day or a “snapped” day. Cue dairy bull mishaps……
2. Watch the friggin corn! Burn out the rumen. Frig up the feet. Acidosis/sub clinical acidosis. Make his testicles soft and mushy with lots of fat….. developing bulls is easier done once you’ve got a track record/experience….
3. Please Just don’t complain if your weanlingbull doesn’t work out. Not on NAT. Not with your circle of friends. Not anyone. Folks are giving advice “against” what you’re wanting to do. Folks are also encouraging you to do what you want to do (and someone will probably sell you what you “want” today.). Just stay safe - life’s lessons are hard enough without aggravating broken & busted up bones.
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