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| My understanding for Illinois is
1) If you are in the union, you pay union dues.
2) New employees get paid to train, and work for a lower rate.
3) You are paid by the company that hires you.
4) when union contractors need employees, they hire through the union from the top of the list, not someone they want.
5) When you need a job, you put your name at the bottom of the list at the union hall
6) If your name is at the top of the list, you can only reject a couple of jobs, or you get taken off the list.
7) If an employer likes you and you like them, but runs low./out of work, You need to work together to stay there. If they let you go, your name goes on the bottom of the list. When they want to rehire, you probably are on the top of the list so they can't hire you back.
8) Union electrician can only work for union shops.
9) Working a power plants or as an electrician at a plant that has IBEW electricians have different rules than the contractors.
Drawbacks/benefits to working with the union
1) There may be long gaps in employment if you get let go in lean times, as it take a long time to move to the top of the list.
2) The person that has been without work the longest gets first opportunity when new work is available.
3) You can't pick and choose the company you work for. There may be a great contractor close to you, but you can't get on with them unless you are at the top of the list when they are hiring.
4) If the shop doesn't like you, they can get rid of you, and you are on the bottom of the list.
5) Wages are determined by the union scales
Drawback/benefits to working with a nonunion shop.
1) You can work with them if you can convince them that you are the best person to hire.
2) You can't work with them unless you can convince them that you are the best person to hire.
3) Pay scale varies by shop
4) Training may not be included with the job.
5) If the shop doesn't like you, they can fire you.
6) Wages are determined by you and the employer
7) It is easier to become specialized in one type of job.
8) If someone is specialize in one area, it may be harder to get to do that job.
Deciding if he should join the union is like trying to pick the best tractor company. Some people have strong opinions one way or the other, the best answer often depends on person goals and situations, an the current opportunities. If he is considering the union, I'd recommend that he gets the names of several large contractors and talk to them and one of their long term employees to find out if their work environment is what he wants.
Purely my opinion, but if he can work for a well respected company, I'd go with that. If he doesn't the environment, he can probably switch to the union. If he regrets joining the union, he can go back to non-union. But if he leaves the union and regrets it, he probably won't be able to go back to the union.
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Any one on here have any expirience or opinion on IBEW?
