ecmn | Hilltop Husker - 7/1/2026 07:02
What do you think I keep dancing around. My point is simple. Plant disease has existed for millions of years. If natural systems had a way of stopping disease it wouldn't exist today.
That flies in the face of your idea that it's the modern agronomic system that perpetuates disease.
None of that means I'm arguing in favor of companies over farmers. I never claimed you changed the subject. I merely don't agree with your point of view. If there is no agronomy in modern agronomy what is your definition of agronomy so we can argue about the same discipline at least.
No I don't agree that taking out one component leads to dependency not agronomy. There can be all sorts of (the common definition of) agronomic reasons to remove something from a field system.
What do I think you keep dancing around? You want to reframe the conversation into arguing about the definition of agronomy. Both of us can go to the dictionary and see the same definition. So there's nothing to argue there
Your last line of you saying no you do not believe removing one product from the system creates dependency. That is a complete Dodge. That is not the question I asked. The question I asked is specifically,
if you have a system and you remove one component and the system collapses. Is that a system of dependency? yes or no.
And you have yet to answer that question
Your statement that if a disease existed in nature and nature could stop it then the disease should not exist. That's not how nature and biology work. You will never eradicate diseases, but you can absolutely grow plants healthy enough that when a disease appears the plant doesn't collapse.
If fungicides worked, why do we still have any diseases? A product that literally kills fungi has been sprayed over millions of acres for several decades and we're gaining more fungal diseases not eradicating any.
Because that's not how it works. Fungicides will never eradicate the disease, They give temporary relief to the symptoms.
A healthy plant will not eradicate the disease, it just doesn't collapse when the disease is presence.
I stand behind my statements.
Organic farming in its foundation should be Sound agronomic practices and good agronomy to build natural systems. And not build on dependency.
Edited by easymoney 7/1/2026 07:59
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Organic Fungicide?
