BobNESD - 1/22/2026 20:17
c_mayer - 1/22/2026 17:14
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JasoninMN - 1/22/2026 16:57 IIRC the new finals have 20 lugs, for a more durable wheel connection. Separating the oil is smart. No need for one failure to contaminate the whole machine.
I’m curious, how would a transmission failure with the old system contaminate the whole hydraulic system? The oil in the transmission couldn’t get into the hydrostatic motor that was driving it and contaminate the system, please explain. It sounds like to me that there are all kinds of new possibilities for problems as these machines get older, I think about these things because used combines are what we have to buy. There isn’t any reason they couldn’t have just made a stronger yet still simple new transmission that doesn’t need its own software. This stupid crap never ends!
It wouldn't have, but I think he's saying it's nice they didn't add something that COULD contaminate the whole system. You do realize the Gleaner hasn't had a shift, or a hydro cable since 2016, right? I would say the S9 is one of the BEST Gleaner combines EVER, and the drive system controls have been VERY reliable...so we really didn't ADD anything to the drivetrain control, just changed it's arrangement. Actually, we could have simplified it, we used to have shifter modules, sensors, a park brake valve, etc...now most of that is self contained in the new transmission. There, happy now? Chris
Ok, I’m not trying to be an ass and just argue, I respect you as a wealth of knowledge on Agco equipment, and have been helped by your answers many times, thank you! I have nothing personal against you. I guess I just get frustrated watching the constant progression of stuff getting more complicated, expensive and over engineered. It just feels like all the companies are competing to see who can make equipment less and less farmer mechanic friendly. I guess I should have realized that since 2016 when Gleaner got the Fendt cab that they didn’t have the good old shift lever any more, what do you mean by no hydro cable? Is it just a sensor that senses where the hydro lever is and that controls an actuator on the hydro pump instead of a physical cable running the swash plate in the pump? We have to run well maintained older equipment, and like to do all our own work in our shop if possible, I guess that’s why I like the simpler stuff. As you know I like the Agco axial combines, I’ve always thought that if they could have just kept refining those and somehow could have marketed them better with a better dealer network for them, Agco could have saved the billions or whatever it was that they put into developing the Ideal, which from what I’ve heard and seen, isn’t maybe so “ideal”! But, what happened happened, and we’ll just have to see where this all goes!
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