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What did you guys do regarding fetilizer this fall ?
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easymoney
Posted 12/9/2025 09:59 (#11463162 - in reply to #11462991)
Subject: RE: What did you guys do regarding fetilizer this fall ?


ecmn
humblefarmer - 12/9/2025 08:02

Easy are you saying you don’t apply any dry nutrients , K&P&S, at all? Any manure?

Do you feel your ideas will work for me in Indiana? Every area has different soil and different weather.

I won’t name a company , but 40 years ago when I was a young man a company was pushing high rates of lime, no dry spread, and some foliars. The individuals running this program were excited about reduced cost and higher profitability. It took 8-10, maybe 12 years and the fertilizer spreader came back with a vengeance. I realize the changes and improvements in the last 40 years are nothing short of amazing. But it is hard for me to imagine being able to maintain yield for very long without dry spread.


I'm not saying anything. I'm asking questions. If you're going to preach the fallacy of crop removal rate fertilizer then you should be able to answer them. Questions

Never have I ever recommended somebody to. Just never use fertilizer.

Do I still use dry fertilizer? Of course I do. But I've also added liquid to the system and I've added more passes. Compared to when I used To listen to yield goal fertility salesman. I'm spending 90% less dollars on phosphorus. I'm spending more dollars on potassium. I'm spending a lot less dollars on nitrogen. I'm spending more dollars on micronutrients And I'm spending more money on stimulants or mimicking nature program.



Will what I'm doing work on your farm? Yes, 100% without a doubt. No questions asked. The nutrient management will work on your farm.
We don't know what we don't measure. I'm going to be beating that drum all winter here.

You have a crop budget per acre for fertilizer. What's going to give you the best bang for the buck?
Option one this fall 10 months before you even have a harvest you buy fertilizer based upon a gas or goal of what you'd like your yield to be and then you apply that bulk fertilizer. Some of it this fall and you're paying 10% on that money?

Option b soil test and plant test in season and feed the crop and soil what it needs. Some Fields to fix all the deficiencies. You might go over budget. Other fields you might be way under budget. But each field got the best that you could do

If you're not testing in season, how do you know what's going on? There is not one piece of data or evidence anywhere linking a plant sap test to a soil test. Just because the soil is high in something doesn't mean the plant is getting it.

There is also zero data connecting a fertilizer pass to yield. Just because you throw it out there doesn't mean your plant is getting it
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