For the $ per acre some guys have in it, I'm not sure the ROI is in it period. Could I make money upgrading planters? Probably? Maybe? I mean, I'm running 2 antique cyclos. I don't think the bean planter would actually make me money. But I don't run enough acres to drop big $ on a planter and tractor. I messed up last year when there were a couple of ground drive planters that would have worked that sold cheap and I didn't realize what they were until too late.