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Keith Mudd
Posted 9/23/2025 17:41 (#11376272)
Subject: Honest question on seed cost


Monroe City, MO

Three or four years ago everyone said the cheapest seed sometimes was the most expensive. Now prices are down and everyone wants to cut seed cost. If what you planted then out yielded the cheap stuff and made more money then why doesn't that theory still apply? 
I see a lot of places to cut expenses, fertilizer, chemicals, fuel (more no-till) and others before I would look to buy cheap seed that a few years ago I deemed inferior. 

edit to add. Yes, my son sell seed. That doesn't change the argument about cheap seed being expensive if it doesn't yield.



Edited by Keith Mudd 9/23/2025 17:44
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jd4930
Posted 9/23/2025 18:30 (#11376312 - in reply to #11376272)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


Central ND		I dont think i have seen many say they are willing to go buy the cheap junk? They are saying there is money to be saved by shopping AND that it is all over priced in today's environment
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Redshale1
Posted 9/23/2025 19:03 (#11376351 - in reply to #11376312)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


Northeastern Pa		I want the good stuff cheap!!! That’s the difference.
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JRCS Farms
Posted 9/23/2025 19:23 (#11376376 - in reply to #11376272)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


North Central Indiana		IMO it’s always important to be comparing at least a bag or two of the “cheap” seed yearly to actually know. We went all conventional because it costs “x” number of bushels to buy the traits when we look at our budgets. We like to do things in bushels rather than dollars. And in recent past the traited corn hasn’t been producing enough extra, sometimes no extra, bushels to pay for itself over conventional. Already have my order in as they’re anticipating a huge run on conventional seed given costs and commodity prices going into 2026

Edited by JRCS Farms 9/23/2025 20:06
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DeereMan97
Posted 9/23/2025 19:24 (#11376378 - in reply to #11376272)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


NWMO		Most farmers can narrow down the things that they know make them money and the things that don’t. Buying the right seed (not the most expensive or the cheapest, necessarily) will be the best mode of operation.

When times get tough, the trick isn’t to throw out the baby with the bath water in regards to inputs. Some expensive things are still worth it in tough times.

However, I find than an WT Chevrolet duramax has just as much power and torque as a high country does, and it’s $20k cheaper. Find those “fatty luxuries” and cut what doesn’t matter first

Seed, isn’t one of those places.
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RSG
Posted 9/23/2025 19:24 (#11376379 - in reply to #11376272)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


Central Nebraska		I am currently looking at seed cost a little differently. I’m still buying name brand seed but maybe I can drop some population and get a better return. Not necessarily a higher yield but higher net profit. Currently running some population and fertilizer trials.
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GrainTrader
Posted 9/23/2025 19:39 (#11376395 - in reply to #11376379)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost



20 miles west of Indianapolis Indiana
RSG - 9/23/2025 19:24

I am currently looking at seed cost a little differently. I’m still buying name brand seed but maybe I can drop some population and get a better return. Not necessarily a higher yield but higher net profit. Currently running some population and fertilizer trials.


I commend you for this, but what are you seeing or thinking? I gotta be honest, I’m in favor of bumping my corn pop up more than down honestly. Same on Nitrogen. I feel like the juice is worth the squeeze as we have had more favorable growing seasons the past few years and the cost is pretty minor even for a tight wad like me
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CS_307
Posted 9/24/2025 09:17 (#11377103 - in reply to #11376395)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


Ohio		OSU has several years of corn seeding rate trials that don't really show any advantage to pushing populations over 30k. I've actually backed my populations down from 35k to 32k and not noticed any negative side effects. Of course it all comes back to management and what your plan is to manage the higher populations. I'm not saying it can't work to plant 40k, but the average farmer is probably better off leaving his population in the low 30's.
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GrainTrader
Posted 9/25/2025 06:16 (#11378070 - in reply to #11377103)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost



20 miles west of Indianapolis Indiana		I am personally shooting for 34,000 and then on N 200-220# typically. Last few years have had 240+ corn. 200-220 should be more normal but don’t want to leave 80+$ an acre on the table either.
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MD GenX
Posted 9/23/2025 19:44 (#11376403 - in reply to #11376379)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


Eastern Shore of MD		I would argue is it all about finding the right genetic package for your situation. Traits only protect yield.

What most would call cheap seed (non gmo) ended up being 1,2 and 4 out of 22 hybrids in our dryland plot when seed cost difference was figured in. This was against well know varities from 6 well known companies.

In our irrigated plot the cheap seed (same 3 as in dryland) ended up being 2,5, and 14 out of 22 well known hybrids when seed cost is factored in.

YMMV

Edited by MD GenX 9/23/2025 19:44
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coup
Posted 9/23/2025 22:47 (#11376639 - in reply to #11376403)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


USA
MD GenX - 9/23/2025 18:44

I would argue is it all about finding the right genetic package for your situation. Traits only protect yield.

What most would call cheap seed (non gmo) ended up being 1,2 and 4 out of 22 hybrids in our dryland plot when seed cost difference was figured in. This was against well know varities from 6 well known companies.

In our irrigated plot the cheap seed (same 3 as in dryland) ended up being 2,5, and 14 out of 22 well known hybrids when seed cost is factored in.

YMMV


What would make the NGMO corn results in your plot look even better, is if you were in area where you could get a 30 cent bu NGMO premium

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Boone & Crockett
Posted 9/24/2025 04:08 (#11376722 - in reply to #11376639)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


coup - 9/23/2025 22:47

MD GenX - 9/23/2025 18:44

I would argue is it all about finding the right genetic package for your situation. Traits only protect yield.

What most would call cheap seed (non gmo) ended up being 1,2 and 4 out of 22 hybrids in our dryland plot when seed cost difference was figured in. This was against well know varities from 6 well known companies.

In our irrigated plot the cheap seed (same 3 as in dryland) ended up being 2,5, and 14 out of 22 well known hybrids when seed cost is factored in.

YMMV


What would make the NGMO corn results in your plot look even better, is if you were in area where you could get a 30 cent bu NGMO premium

we’ve been NGMO for 15 years now, and haven’t gotten one cent xtra cuz of it. I’m sure we could find premiums somewhere, but the hoops and xtra trucking would mostly, if not completely, negate the benefit. We do it for the higher yields, and much lower seed cost. Sure would be nice to have a premium and not have spend 3 hours one way in a semi to get it.
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nkline
Posted 9/23/2025 20:07 (#11376441 - in reply to #11376379)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


West Central Iowa
RSG - 9/23/2025 19:24

I am currently looking at seed cost a little differently. I’m still buying name brand seed but maybe I can drop some population and get a better return. Not necessarily a higher yield but higher net profit. Currently running some population and fertilizer trials.


I don’t think that is a bad strategy, but I wouldn’t just look at name brand seed. In this case I think you need to look at as diverse of genetics as possible. The big brands don’t have the competitive advantage they are trying to lead us to believe.
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RSG
Posted 9/23/2025 21:03 (#11376529 - in reply to #11376441)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


Central Nebraska		Good point and I agree. I would like to do these trials with many different hybrids but the whole farm can’t be a test plot. I’m just running a control 2/3 rate and 1/2 rate in 2.5ac plots on both seed and fert. I just enjoy running experiments. If something stands out then I’ll slowly expand the practice.
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Growbig123
Posted 9/24/2025 07:09 (#11376858 - in reply to #11376441)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


ND		You don’t get diversity buying a small regional company. There is only three main genetic suppliers left so most is sourced from the big brands anyway
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nkline
Posted 9/24/2025 15:36 (#11377550 - in reply to #11376858)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


West Central Iowa		You can if you know what you are doing, there are around 20 corn breeding companies.
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G5 Ag
Posted 9/23/2025 19:48 (#11376408 - in reply to #11376272)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


NE MO		They’re lots of ways to cut costs. Seed, fertilizer, chemical isn’t one of them. More times than not, cheap seed is cheap for a reason. Doing plant tissue analysis along with nutrient removal calculations can equate to huge savings versus assuming and throwing (X) lbs of (X) fertilizer out there the next spring cuz that’s the general route one follows. Play the dealers against each other for pricing and look at wholesale 3rd party options. Most salesman’s in big ag retailers are nothing but bottom feeding vultures, no different than a use car salesman. And unfortunately, local coops can’t compete because of volume. My opinion, guys that are just now looking to save money with how the past couple years have been, their already behind the 8-ball.
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cyclones30
Posted 9/23/2025 20:03 (#11376429 - in reply to #11376272)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost



Midwest

Almost all seed is seemingly overpriced. So why not shop around? 

Shopping for a better price doesn't mean finding some $20/bag bin run uncleaned beans. It means still looking for the good stuff, just at a better price. 


It's like people have been equipment shopping forever. Someone wants a CIH 7120 they could get it from this dealer, that dealer, auction, etc. Prices probably vary at each stop. So does service and warranty possibly. 

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deeretech14
Posted 9/23/2025 20:18 (#11376460 - in reply to #11376272)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost



SW Ohio		I'll assume my thread below got this thought going, and I'll be the last person to say you are wrong. I'm fully aware I can't save myself into a profit and cheap seed can be the most expensive you ever plant. It's more the principle to me. How can they justify increasing their price when the price of my commodity is lower than last year and fertilizer is higher as well? Is there a shortage of seed? Tariffs in place? I don't think either is true this year.

I have my own test plots out of cheaper starting price seed. If what I'm planting now yields more than the difference of the increased cost versus the competitor, then I can justify staying with the current company. If the cheaper seed performs equally with the more expensive, then I am better off with the cheaper seed as long as service is equal as well
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SJR
Posted 9/23/2025 20:51 (#11376509 - in reply to #11376272)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


NCIA		I think the bigger companies have a bit better lineup top to bottom, but I’ve tried a lot of different brands and I haven’t found anybody that I’m afraid of. There’s good stuff out there from everyone. Sometimes the big guys need to yield 10 bu better before you even start making money.
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Hilltop Husker
Posted 9/23/2025 22:36 (#11376633 - in reply to #11376272)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


Northern Nebraska		Good seed can be cheap. Bad seed can be expensive. A person must be vigilant.

Edited by Hilltop Husker 9/23/2025 22:50
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IADAVE
Posted 9/23/2025 22:49 (#11376641 - in reply to #11376633)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


That is the case.
We are approaching the end of the first early pay discount period and yet, only one seed company has a price sheet out.
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coup
Posted 9/23/2025 22:53 (#11376643 - in reply to #11376633)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


USA
Hilltop Husker - 9/23/2025 21:36

God seed can be cheap. Bad seed can be expensive. A person must be vigilant.


Seed cost has nothing to do with how the hybrid in the bag performs.
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Hilltop Husker
Posted 9/23/2025 22:54 (#11376646 - in reply to #11376643)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


Northern Nebraska		Exactly that's the thesis of my post.
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coup
Posted 9/23/2025 22:57 (#11376649 - in reply to #11376646)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


USA
Hilltop Husker - 9/23/2025 21:54

Exactly that's the thesis of my post.


Have said this for years it should be a requirement that seed is required to have the pedigree on the label.
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Hilltop Husker
Posted 9/23/2025 22:58 (#11376653 - in reply to #11376649)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


Northern Nebraska		I agree. But when my local state representative brought it up about amending State seed laws, lots and lots of lobbyists from a very large seed company showed up to say how bad of an idea that was.
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IADAVE
Posted 9/23/2025 22:58 (#11376654 - in reply to #11376646)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


One way to cut cost is to cut population.
I have corn with 32,000 and corn with 24. If the Pioneer yield calculator holds true, the lower population will produce less corn, but appears to be close to the higher population on net profit.
If I calculated out the extra handling and fertilizer, it might be even.
Of course if corn goes to $7.00, I will be short.
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Clay SEIA
Posted 9/23/2025 23:19 (#11376666 - in reply to #11376654)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost



IADAVE - 9/23/2025 22:58 One way to cut cost is to cut population. I have corn with 32,000 and corn with 24. If the Pioneer yield calculator holds true, the lower population will produce less corn, but appears to be close to the higher population on net profit. If I calculated out the extra handling and fertilizer, it might be even. Of course if corn goes to $7.00, I will be short.


Have said it before.... astonishes me how many farmers seem to be willing to just take recommended rates from the company SELLING the seed, but won't take an hour of extra effort to generate test plots on their own fields with strips of varied populations.  I was gullible that way 20 years ago, briefly.   

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Boone & Crockett
Posted 9/24/2025 04:17 (#11376724 - in reply to #11376666)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


Yup, seems we’ve had population creep going on for 40 years. When I started farming, we were dropping 24,000 of P 3780 and 3732. How many here ever planted those numbers? I’ll admit, never saw anything even close to 300 bu, let alone exceed it by 10%. I am, though, fairly confident I could raise top yields today at 28,500 final stand.
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whiterock91
Posted 9/24/2025 06:13 (#11376770 - in reply to #11376724)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


Alpena MI		I do population trials every year, and I have yet to have a lower pop (or higher) beat the bottom line of 32,000 in a 180 bushel yield environment.
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Hilltop Husker
Posted 9/24/2025 07:03 (#11376841 - in reply to #11376770)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


Northern Nebraska		Good Lord why would you plant so high to only get 180? If that was my yield goal I'd only be dropping 20k.
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Baby Robin
Posted 9/24/2025 07:32 (#11376896 - in reply to #11376841)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


Fontanelle, IA
Hilltop Husker - 9/24/2025 06:03

Good Lord why would you plant so high to only get 180? If that was my yield goal I'd only be dropping 20k.


You do realize that 115 day corn in NE is way further south than say 100 day corn in Northern MI?
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Hilltop Husker
Posted 9/24/2025 08:17 (#11376993 - in reply to #11376896)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


Northern Nebraska		You do realize I'm in Northern Nebraska and plenty of guys plant 100-105 day Corn in my area. I couldn't mature out 115 day corn if I wanted to.

So he is northern Michigan is he any further north than Watertown or milbank SD? I know guys north of there that plant lower populations than even I recommend.
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Marvin1982
Posted 9/24/2025 12:56 (#11377389 - in reply to #11376993)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


Northeast, Nebraska
Hilltop Husker - 9/24/2025 08:17

You do realize I'm in Northern Nebraska and plenty of guys plant 100-105 day Corn in my area. I couldn't mature out 115 day corn if I wanted to.

So he is northern Michigan is he any further north than Watertown or milbank SD? I know guys north of there that plant lower populations than even I recommend.


Why not? I plant 117 and 118 day corn in north northeast nebraska. Plant it first, harvest it last. Doesn't get super dry in the field if it takes a while to get to, it will stand good. If you have good soil health, your plants can mature faster since it can get the nutrients it needs easier.
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JellyJugz
Posted 9/24/2025 21:09 (#11377855 - in reply to #11376993)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


NC South Dakota		Why?
I have some 100 day in North Dakota this year, I will combine it.
Longer RM is the easiest way to push yield.
Genetics add yield not traits.
Longer RM has better genetics imo.

Edited by JellyJugz 9/24/2025 21:10
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Tomcat
Posted 9/25/2025 19:43 (#11378957 - in reply to #11376993)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost



Ludington/Manistee MI area

Hilltop Husker - 9/24/2025 09:17 You do realize I'm in Northern Nebraska and plenty of guys plant 100-105 day Corn in my area. I couldn't mature out 115 day corn if I wanted to. So he is northern Michigan is he any further north than Watertown or milbank SD? I know guys north of there that plant lower populations than even I recommend.




Are you smart enough to know the detrimental effects of farming near the “Great Lakes”?

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Hilltop Husker
Posted 9/25/2025 20:12 (#11379006 - in reply to #11378957)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


Northern Nebraska		If you mean benefit then yes. I have family that farm on the Canadian side.
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Baby Robin
Posted 9/25/2025 21:45 (#11379163 - in reply to #11379006)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


Fontanelle, IA		Where in Canada?

Lake effect can be a crap shoot depending on which side of the lake you are. The Chatham, ON, farmers that I ran into along time ago always complained their growing season was 8-10 CRMs less than the MI guys because of lake effect/slow to warm up in spring/wet-muddy falls. But, that was 20 years ago now.
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Hilltop Husker
Posted 9/25/2025 22:02 (#11379189 - in reply to #11379163)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


Northern Nebraska		London Ontario. In the middle of three of the lakes.
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redoak
Posted 9/26/2025 08:30 (#11379500 - in reply to #11379163)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


deep SW On.
Baby Robin - 9/25/2025 22:45

Where in Canada?

Lake effect can be a crap shoot depending on which side of the lake you are. The Chatham, ON, farmers that I ran into along time ago always complained their growing season was 8-10 CRMs less than the MI guys because of lake effect/slow to warm up in spring/wet-muddy falls. But, that was 20 years ago now.


Chatam ,Ontario farmers have some of the best land and weather in Canada ...yields match the best corn belt ground...lots of processing crops,seed corn,ect...I am 30 miles away,wish I had there weather and soil
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Tomcat
Posted 9/26/2025 04:05 (#11379306 - in reply to #11379006)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost



Ludington/Manistee MI area
Hilltop Husker - 9/25/2025 21:12

If you mean benefit then yes. I have family that farm on the Canadian side.


You’re smoking crack. Only benefit might be temperature in the winter. You trade butt hole deep snow on a giraffe for slightly less cold weather right near them.
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whiterock91
Posted 9/26/2025 06:57 (#11379406 - in reply to #11379006)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


Alpena MI		I have no complaints about farming where I do, even with it's challenges, but what are the benefits you speak of that aren't available elsewhere?
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Hilltop Husker
Posted 9/26/2025 07:36 (#11379456 - in reply to #11379406)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


Northern Nebraska		Rain. Relatives up there get twice as much as I do.

Tempered temperature due to the lakes holding on to solar energy.

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jd4930
Posted 9/26/2025 08:03 (#11379480 - in reply to #11379456)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


Central ND		Would 18" of snow several weeks ahead of everyone else be a benefit too?
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Hilltop Husker
Posted 9/26/2025 08:48 (#11379530 - in reply to #11379480)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


Northern Nebraska		Would I like all that extra snow no but moisture is moisture. Look I've had family that are farmed in Ontario for 100 years. Only my brains of the family decided to move off to the dry Plains in Nebraska.
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Tomcat
Posted 9/26/2025 12:51 (#11379784 - in reply to #11379530)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost



Ludington/Manistee MI area

Hilltop Husker - 9/26/2025 09:48 Would I like all that extra snow no but moisture is moisture. Look I've had family that are farmed in Ontario for 100 years. Only my brains of the family decided to move off to the dry Plains in Nebraska.



Hey smarty pants moisture at the wrong time can be a detriment as well.   Be a man admit you know nothing about farming here and tuck tail.   



Edited by Tomcat 9/26/2025 12:51
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DCW-TX
Posted 9/24/2025 07:30 (#11376892 - in reply to #11376770)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


whiterock91 - 9/24/2025 06:13

I do population trials every year, and I have yet to have a lower pop (or higher) beat the bottom line of 32,000 in a 180 bushel yield environment.


Boy, I bet Bayer loves you. Can do 180+ with 22 to 25k all day, eveyday.
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ksufearless
Posted 9/24/2025 21:58 (#11377922 - in reply to #11376892)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost



NW KS
DCW-TX - 9/24/2025 07:30

whiterock91 - 9/24/2025 06:13

I do population trials every year, and I have yet to have a lower pop (or higher) beat the bottom line of 32,000 in a 180 bushel yield environment.


Boy, I bet Bayer loves you. Can do 180+ with 22 to 25k all day, eveyday.


most hybrids wont do it, but ive seen 200 on 16.5 three times. quarters, not test plots.

we have 2 180 yields on 17k on our farm as well.

takes the right hybrid
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jd4930
Posted 9/24/2025 07:33 (#11376900 - in reply to #11376770)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


Central ND		That seems crazy high, we dont drop near that and can approach that yield up here in the 'fringe'
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Kooiker
Posted 9/24/2025 07:57 (#11376954 - in reply to #11376770)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost



whiterock91 - 9/24/2025 06:13 I do population trials every year, and I have yet to have a lower pop (or higher) beat the bottom line of 32,000 in a 180 bushel yield environment.




How many different hybrids and companies do you include in those population trials?      What RM corn do you usually plant?    Over several years time frame, what is your most common yield limiting factor?

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LMARTIN
Posted 9/24/2025 12:30 (#11377356 - in reply to #11376954)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost



Decker MI		He is planting 83-89 day hybrids in cold marginal soils in an area that if it wasn't for being close to lake Huron he couldn't grow corn most years. Not everywhere in this world has good topsoil and the weather to produce 8-10 bushel per thousand pop. Also 180 bushel is at least 50 bushel over APH for that area so there are a few differences to keep in mind.
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jd4930
Posted 9/24/2025 12:58 (#11377394 - in reply to #11377356)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


Central ND		That kind of confirms some of the questions though? We plant 83-85 day in the same conditions, aph low 100s, shoot for the moon yield is 175ish, we don't drop 32k and it is far from the limiting factor?
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whiterock91
Posted 9/24/2025 21:20 (#11377866 - in reply to #11377394)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


Alpena MI		Shoot for the moon is 230 here. The rest of the story is that when I moved to this area 8 years ago, less than 1/4 of our acres were being farmed more than taking a cutting of grass hay once a year. We have tiled several hundred acres at 30' spacing and have been spreading chicken litter religiously, along with potash and some MAP. The land that was being farmed is sand with low Magnesium levels, which we have been trying to raise. We have spread some lime and gypsum, but PH is relatively neutral.

Now for seed, mostly $120 per bag NONGMO seed that has been compared to Becks, Nutech and LG, on our farm. Epleys 9200 and M&W 48R10, 48R46 and M&W D93 have been our best ROI. Best yield has been Becks 4672, with 4026 and 4359 ending up very comparable yield wise to the NONGMO, which leaves a somewhat lower ROI.

So mostly, the large seed brands really don't know I exist. And it doesn't take many bushels to cover costs for 1,000 seeds with the seed we are planting.

I'm still learning, but the study so far leaves me doubting that 10 bushel per thousand is in the cards any time soon, if ever.
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whiterock91
Posted 9/25/2025 07:12 (#11378143 - in reply to #11376954)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


Alpena MI		We are still trying to put a finger on yield limiting factors on a acre by acre basis as we gather more years of yield data and soil an tissue samples with the ground we are farming. Yield maps follow MG levels on our sand it seems, so we've been working on that. Maybe sometime I will start a thread with our farm average soil test stats and let Ag Talkers tear them apart. I do think biology has something to do with our yield limiting factor because the longer we farm a piece of ground, the higher our yield ceiling is raised, and some of that ground really isn't calling for lots of macro nutrients, it just seems lifeless.
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Pofarmer
Posted 9/24/2025 07:09 (#11376857 - in reply to #11376724)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost



Lol. When I started farming in the mid 90's we were dropping 15000 DK 626. Didn't go above 20K until 2004 or so. 

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Ron..NE ILL..10/48
Posted 9/24/2025 05:41 (#11376752 - in reply to #11376643)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost



Chebanse, IL.....

"Leon Pignowski" ??????

from the USA?

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Newguy
Posted 9/24/2025 05:14 (#11376735 - in reply to #11376272)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost


WC MN		With automatic seed and yield tracking available for at least a decade, how is this even a question today?


Weve been throwing bags of high priced seed next to boxes of conventional corn for 14 years trying to beat it financially. One year conventional may loose by a little, then the next it wins by allot.


On the negative side:
I do have grass creeping in on the outside rows of my corn. Roundup sure does kill grass good yet.

Going into corn on corn a few years may change the tune, but Coup has some good recommendations for that in conventional.

Edited by Newguy 9/24/2025 05:14
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Kooiker
Posted 9/24/2025 08:00 (#11376961 - in reply to #11376735)
Subject: RE: Honest question on seed cost



Newguy - 9/24/2025 05:14  Going into corn on corn a few years may change the tune, but Coup has some good recommendations for that in conventional.



CoC management starts the July/August prior to planting corn into corn stalks.    If you haven't won that battle, I personally wouldn't go into the next battle with conventional corn.

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