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Baby Robin
Posted 6/19/2025 10:50 (#11267858 - in reply to #11267688)
Subject: RE: “Juneteenth” a fitting day to discuss the Hypocrisy of events?


Fontanelle, IA
JonSCKs - 6/19/2025 07:26

Ag labor has always been a controversial issue.. from Slaves to my ancestors as Scot Irish fleeing oppression and poverty to todays “War on Migrants.”
 
Many falsehoods are regarded as facts.

#1). It’s a crime to be in the US without documentation.  No it’s not.

The act of being present in the United States in violation of the immigration laws is not, standing alone, a crime. While federal immigration law does criminalize some actions that may be related to undocumented presence in the United States, undocumented presence alone is not a violation of federal criminal law. Thus, many believe that the term “illegal alien,” which may suggest a criminal violation, is inaccurate or misleading.

Entering the United States without being inspected and admitted, i.e., illegal entry, is a misdemeanor or can be a felony, depending on the circumstances. 8 U.S.C. § 1325. But many undocumented immigrants do not enter the United States illegally. They enter legally but overstay, work without authorization, drop out of school or violate the conditions of their visas in some other way. Current estimates are that approximately 45% of undocumented immigrants did not enter illegally. See Pew Hispanic Center, Modes of Entry for the Unauthorized Migrant Population [May 22, 2006].

Undocumented presence in the United States is only criminally punishable if it occurs after an individual was previously formally removed from the United States and then returned without permission. 8 U.S.C. § 1326 (any individual previously “deported or removed” who “enters, attempts to enter, or is at any time found in” the United States without authorization may be punished by imprisonment up to two years). Mere undocumented presence in the United States alone, however, in the absence of a previous removal order and unauthorized reentry, is not a crime under federal law.

https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/field_document/FINAL_criminalizing_undocumented_immigrants_issue_brief_PUBLIC_VERSION.pdf


#2)  Many undocumented workers are Criminals.

This is the question Senator Padilla California was asking Noem about when he was assaulted for trying to ask the question.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FaBinmq3Kk 

Here is Senator Padilla’s recount of events on the US Senate floor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-mKheWHHDw 

Padilla himself was born in Mexico before immigrating to the US where he grew up.. attending MIT and graduating with a degree in Engineering.  He is a United States Senator replacing Kamalla Harris appointed by Governor Newsome but now elected from California.

Padilla is one of three children of Santos and Lupe Padilla, both of whom moved from Mexico, specifically Jalisco and Chihuahua, before meeting and marrying in Los Angeles, where he was born.[3][4] He grew up in Pacoima, Los Angeles, and graduated from San Fernando High School in the northeast San Fernando Valley.[5] He earned a degree in mechanical engineering from Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) in 1994.[6]

Governor Gavin Newsomappointed Padilla to the United States Senate after then-Senator Kamala Harriswas elected vice president of the United States; Harris, as the newly elected vice president and president of the Senate, swore Padilla in on January 20, 2021. In dual November 2022 elections, Padilla won a special election to complete Harris's term as well as election to a full Senate term, defeating Republican nominee Mark Meuser in both.[2]

Padilla became California's senior senator on September 29, 2023, upon the death of Dianne Feinstein.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Padilla

#3) Former Gov. Kristi Noem said in 2024 there would be “war on our hands” if former President Biden federalized South Dakota’s National Guard and stopped them from performing duties at the U.S.-Mexico border.

“If (Biden) is willing to do that, and to take away my authority as governor as commander in chief of those National Guard (troops), boy, we do have a war on our hands,” Noem said Feb. 4, 2024, on Fox News.

Noem tweeted Feb. 6, 2024, that federalizing the Guard would be a “direct attack on states’ rights.”

https://www.dakotanewsnow.com/2025/06/12/was-kristi-noem-against-federal-control-south-dakotas-national-guard-during-biden-administration/

And yet there she stood as the Department of Homeland Security Secretary watching officials take down a US Senator for asking why she was now FULFILLING THE ROLE WHICH SHE CRITICIZED mere months before.

Cant make this up..

#4) A huge discrepancy exists between the stated goals of “deporting dangerous CRIMINALS” of the Trump administration.. or undocumented citizens who ARE NOT CRIMINALS violating their Civil Rights.

This is a CNN interview of two American Citizens.. the daughters of an undocumented detained by the questionable tactics of ICE last week in Omaha.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/17/us/omaha-ice-raid-meatpacking-plant

Were Mrs Salado’s Civil Rights violated?  Can officials including Noem be held to account for violating them?
  
One of the most controversial provisions of H.R. 4437, the “Border Protection, Antiterrorism, and Illegal Immigration Control Act of 2005,” or “Sensenbrenner bill,” would have made simply being undocumented in the United States a felony. Although passed by the House of Representatives, the bill was rejected by the Senate after massive street demonstrations around the nation and sharp criticism of the provision criminalizing undocumented presence. Senator Harry Reid (D-Nev.) attacked the bill as “mak[ing] criminals out of and demoniz[ing] a lot of hard-working people who are just trying to provide for their families.” 

#5) Department of Homeland Security putting out inaccurate statistics.

Again Deportment of Homeland security states they are targeting “Illegal Criminals of which 75% of deportatees are.. 

  • Tricia McLaughlin:

    I'm saying that, in the last 100 days, under this administration, 75 percent of those immigrants that we have arrested, those illegal immigrants that we have arrested, have had prior criminal convictions.

    So these are not necessarily innocent individuals that they not only are in this country illegally, but they also have crimes that they have committed.

 https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/homeland-security-official-on-the-trump-administrations-immigration-policy-changes 

  • Amna Nawaz:

    You're saying 75 percent of over the 260,000 people you have arrested were convicted in a court for a violent crime? Is that what you're saying?

  • Tricia McLaughlin:

    That's correct.

  • Amna Nawaz:

    Can I just add, there's such a gap between the numbers that you're sharing right now and what we have seen in previous reports. There was another analysis, based on internal data that CNN ran and published on June 16, that found that less than 10 percent of about 190,000 or so people who've been booked into ICE custody had been convicted of those serious violent crimes, as you mentioned.

    Why is there such a huge gap between what reporters and journalists are reporting, based on the data they see, and what you're saying now?

  • Tricia McLaughlin:

    I don't know where CNN or the Guardian are getting their data, but I wouldn't say that those are exactly nonpartisan outlets. I don't really rely on them for facts or analysis.

    I do rely on the Department of Homeland Security and our career civil servants, who are giving us this data.

 Here is a CNN report finding less than 10% of ICE detainees are Criminals.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/16/us/la-ice-raids-violent-criminals-records-invs 

Another source..

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/content/immigrants-and-crime

Immigrants in the United States commit crimes at lower rates than the U.S.-born population, notwithstanding the assertion by critics that immigration is linked to higher rates of criminal activity. This reality of reduced criminality, which holds across immigrant groups including unauthorized immigrants, has been demonstrated through research as well as findings for the one state in the United States—Texas—that tracks criminal arrests and convictions by immigration status.

A growing volume of research demonstrates that not only do immigrants commit fewer crimes, but they also do not raise crime rates in the U.S. communities where they settle. In fact, some studies indicate that immigration can lower criminal activity, especially violent crime, in places with inclusive policies and social environments where immigrant populations are well established.

I find it hard to believe that Criminals like murderers and rapist would be hanging at at jobs like cutting up meat at a packing plant.

and yet here we are.. led to believe that the people who kept us fed during COVID are right up there with being terrorists.

As a Nation.. what are we doing? 



Padillo was either born in Mexico or LOs angeles - but not both.
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