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povertypoint
Posted 1/15/2025 09:24 (#11056881)
Subject: Road & Dogs ?


SE SD

almost every Morning, before sunrise, I drive to our other farm. Midway is an acreage with a pair
of , I believe to be Great Pureness. These dogs are often out on the road. In the summer they will
be lying in the roadway. I know they live there, so generally I slow down. 
One of these days I'm afraid when they charge from the drive way or are masked by snow or fog,
there will be a bad outcome. Not only for the dog, but these behemoths could do some serious damage
to a car.
from what I know of the couple that own the dogs, It would get ugly.

Now the question. Do I approach the owners and voice my concern? but this would also put them
on notice that I am aware of the dogs and if a collision were to occur I would hold some responsibility?
Do I contact (anonymously) the sheriff or local humane society?
(I do not want to be a Karen or Ken). 

Or do nothing......let sleeping dogs lie.......so to speak :)



Edited by povertypoint 1/15/2025 10:09
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buenymayor
Posted 1/15/2025 09:48 (#11056934 - in reply to #11056881)
Subject: RE: Road Dogs



WC Franklin Co., In.
It's their responsibility to ensure the safety of their dogs. As owners, I think they are also responsible for any damages they cause if they are in the roadway. At least that is how it was in the good ol' days. The way people dote over their pets anymore, you'd probably be better off running over one of their kids, though. Just yesterday I came over a hill and someones dog was lying in the center of the road. It didn't seem too inclined to move.
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Little papa
Posted 1/15/2025 10:15 (#11056982 - in reply to #11056881)
Subject: RE: Road & Dogs ?


Hooker Twp,Ne
You might want to mention to law enforcement. How would you feel if a bus load of kids were injured?



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john s
Posted 1/15/2025 10:20 (#11056993 - in reply to #11056881)
Subject: RE: Road Dogs


Years ago I was riding with a good friend of mine and we came upon a group of people riding horse in the grass on the side of the highway, we slowed a little as we passed and a little dog they had with them darted out under my friends truck.
We slowed to a stop as we realized what happened, and tried to figure out what to do, we decided to go back and apologize even though it was an accident and definitely not our fault.

As we got back to the group of people a heavyset VERY upset lady ran towards us screaming and cursing us, my friend has a short temper and it only took a few seconds of that and we where almost in a roadside brawl,
When she reached in the cab we decided it was time to leave, Im not sure if she was going to hit him or try and take the keys or what.

My advice beyond the 3 sss are if you ever hit a dog, don't slow down, don't tell the owner, don't tell anybody

people are nuts about their dogs.
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IADAVE
Posted 1/15/2025 10:28 (#11057003 - in reply to #11056993)
Subject: RE: Road Dogs


Hitting a dog can be a bad deal. If you don't kill it, you have to go back and finish the job or take it to a vet. If you take it to a vet, you are going to be stuck with the bill.
IF you finish the job, you are liable. Plus the owners will be doubly upset.
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iseedit
Posted 1/15/2025 10:39 (#11057023 - in reply to #11056881)
Subject: RE: Road & Dogs ?



central - east central Minnesota -

povertypoint - 1/15/2025 09:24



Or do nothing......let sleeping dogs lie.......so to speak :)


That's your answer - you know the dogs are there, you have so far added caution when driving by the dogs/home, continue on. Worse case, dog gets hit - problem hopefully solved. 

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Greg K
Posted 1/15/2025 10:39 (#11057024 - in reply to #11056881)
Subject: RE: Road & Dogs ?


If the chance arose I would voice the concern to the owners but carefully worded. Maybe something like "those dogs are great looking and I always worry about them when they are out on the road" . Something so it sounds like you are less worried about your vehicle and more about these dogs that you think so highly of.
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JohnW
Posted 1/15/2025 11:47 (#11057104 - in reply to #11056881)
Subject: RE: Road & Dogs ?


NW Washington
I guess these are Great Pyrenees dogs. If so, I remember a similar situation where those big white dogs would lie in the road and, I think, ended up getting killed.
They are bred to be sheep guard dogs, but they seem dumb about where to rest.

https://www.akc.org/dog-breeds/great-pyrenees/
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German Shepherd
Posted 1/15/2025 11:52 (#11057115 - in reply to #11057104)
Subject: RE: Road & Dogs ?


We've had Great Pyrenees for years.   They are blonde for a reason and act accordingly.

To the OP, we've never tried this but a dog trainer once told me when you have that problem with a GP to have someone other than family (different vehicle) pull up beside them and fire a gun into the air several times.  May have to do it for a few days but supposedly it works.

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farmdude
Posted 1/15/2025 11:55 (#11057121 - in reply to #11057104)
Subject: RE: Road & Dogs ?


It's really against the law to have your dog running after a vehicle on the road.Youtr supposed to restrain it to your property.You could report it to the sherrif.An a citation will be issued.It could cause a serious accident an that could get ugly.Odds are nothing will happen.Train that dog so he doesn't do that.People are pretty careless about this.

Edited by farmdude 1/15/2025 11:59
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povertypoint
Posted 1/15/2025 12:32 (#11057167 - in reply to #11057115)
Subject: RE: Road & Dogs ?


SE SD

German Shepherd - 1/15/2025 10:52

We've had Great Pyrenees for years.   They are blonde for a reason and act accordingly.

To the OP, we've never tried this but a dog trainer once told me when you have that problem with a GP to have someone other than family (different vehicle) pull up beside them and fire a gun into the air several times.  May have to do it for a few days but supposedly it works.

don't think I will try that one :) can only imagine what would transpire, sitting in front of someone's
house blasting rounds off  :0
but thanks for passing on that tid bit.

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J.L.
Posted 1/15/2025 12:43 (#11057184 - in reply to #11056881)
Subject: RE: Road & Dogs ?


Iowa
You know the folks more than I do as to whether they are reasonable or not.

That said- I love our dog but I know he can't be in the road or expect someone to put their vehicle in the ditch to avoid hitting him. If the neighbors stopped and told me the dog was hanging out in the road too much- I'd appreciate it and try to resolve the problem.

I've hit and killed one dog. It sucked. Went to the house and apologized. They were understandably upset but understood and said the dog liked to chase cars and knew the day was coming.

Good luck- sounds like a damned if you do- damned if you don't situation if these people aren't reasonable.

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junk fun
Posted 1/15/2025 12:55 (#11057196 - in reply to #11057104)
Subject: RE: Road & Dogs ?


Wisconsin
JohnW - 1/15/2025 11:47
They are bred to be sheep guard dogs, but they seem dumb about where to rest.


Pyrenees are not a people pleasing dog, they have very little regard for peoples opinions of their job. Their job is to protect their flock. One of the working dogs that make very poor pets. So the owner is in a bit of a predicament, as an adult pyrenees will be difficult to train, not happy tied up, etc. People are stupid.
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J.L.
Posted 1/15/2025 13:13 (#11057215 - in reply to #11056993)
Subject: RE: Road Dogs


Iowa
No good deed goes unpunished. You try to do the right thing and get your ass chewed.

A sensible person would go- "gee maybe we better leave the dog at home rather than have it running loose down the side of the highway".

I've seen a lot of supposed "dog lovers" put their dogs in/or let them in potentially dangerous situations.
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German Shepherd
Posted 1/15/2025 13:17 (#11057218 - in reply to #11057167)
Subject: RE: Road & Dogs ?


You'd have to tell the owners to try it if they want to save the dogs. You are right, can't do it yourself.

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Big Ben
Posted 1/15/2025 14:40 (#11057289 - in reply to #11056881)
Subject: RE: Road & Dogs ?


Columbia Basin, Ephrata, WA

What do you mean by “could get ugly”?

You have exactly zero responsibility for hitting them if they’re in the roadway.


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senorthdakota
Posted 1/15/2025 14:57 (#11057305 - in reply to #11057218)
Subject: RE: Road & Dogs ?


Or firecrackers be best had a neighbor do that to ours seemed to help...
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Big Ben
Posted 1/15/2025 14:59 (#11057308 - in reply to #11057003)
Subject: RE: Road Dogs


Columbia Basin, Ephrata, WA
IADAVE - 1/15/2025 08:28

Hitting a dog can be a bad deal. If you don't kill it, you have to go back and finish the job or take it to a vet. If you take it to a vet, you are going to be stuck with the bill.
IF you finish the job, you are liable. Plus the owners will be doubly upset.



You’re not liable for anything if their dog is on a public roadway. We aren’t talking about open range cattle here, it’s 100% the dog owners fault if there’s an accident. They get to pay for car damage too, BTW.







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Iowajim
Posted 1/15/2025 15:12 (#11057318 - in reply to #11056881)
Subject: RE: Road & Dogs ?


NW Iowa
I left a chat site I used to frequent because some of those guys thought a dog's life was more valuable than a human life. I am a dog lover but I don't have dogs anymore because I get too attached to the dog and it is too hard on me when the dog dies. But human lives are number one priority over dogs.

Edited by Iowajim 1/15/2025 15:12
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jd8850
Posted 1/15/2025 15:50 (#11057350 - in reply to #11057003)
Subject: RE: Road Dogs


Roseglen, North Dakota
You HAVE to go back and kill it?
I know of no law like that.
Most people wd keep on driving and never come back to look.
And pay the vet bill for someone else's dog when it's their responsibility to keep it off the road?
I hardly think so.
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jd8850
Posted 1/15/2025 15:54 (#11057353 - in reply to #11057318)
Subject: RE: Road & Dogs ?


Roseglen, North Dakota
I'm with you Iowa. We lost 5 beautiful German Shepherds in 10 years.
4 ran over
1 ran away
And I ran over 2 of the 4.
Over 10 years ago and will never have another one. Too hard on the heart
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jd8850
Posted 1/15/2025 15:56 (#11057355 - in reply to #11057121)
Subject: RE: Road & Dogs ?


Roseglen, North Dakota
If it was that easy to train a dog to be off the road, there wdnt be any dogs on the road.
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German Shepherd
Posted 1/15/2025 16:57 (#11057430 - in reply to #11057308)
Subject: RE: Road Dogs


About 20 years ago one neighbor hit another neighbors dog on the highway and had a lot of damage to the car.   Open range law applied here and car owner had to collect from his own insurance company.

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Aussy Harold
Posted 1/15/2025 17:08 (#11057439 - in reply to #11057355)
Subject: RE: Road & Dogs ?


North East Wimmera district of Victoria.

In my farming days, I had to drive my grain truck up a road beside a residence very close beside that road [way out in the country]

Hit and killed the blokes dog, it came tearing out to bark at my truck, went right under the front wheel.

Worse thing that happened - the same scene repeated itself five years later.  Some people  [or their dogs] don't learn!

Terrible feeling.

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johndeere1
Posted 1/15/2025 18:19 (#11057531 - in reply to #11057355)
Subject: RE: Road & Dogs ?


Central Saskatchewan Canada
jd8850 - 1/15/2025 15:56

If it was that easy to train a dog to be off the road, there wdnt be any dogs on the road.


It actually is. It’s just that the owner has to be smarter than the dog.
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IADAVE
Posted 1/15/2025 22:04 (#11057834 - in reply to #11057308)
Subject: RE: Road Dogs


I know I am not liable, however, most folks can't or won't pay for a big vet bill. If I took it to the vet, who do you think he is looking to to get his money.
Folks that own the dog can just say they didn't authorize it.
I may not be lagally obligated to end the dogs suffering, but it is not right for the animal to suffer either.
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Kooiker
Posted 1/15/2025 22:12 (#11057838 - in reply to #11056881)
Subject: RE: Road & Dogs ?



Since it involves a county (?) road, I would tell the sheriff of your concern (and that you'd like to remain anonymous) and let him handle it from there.


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Kooiker
Posted 1/15/2025 22:14 (#11057845 - in reply to #11057289)
Subject: RE: Road & Dogs ?



Big Ben - 1/15/2025 14:40 What do you mean by “could get ugly”? You have exactly zero responsibility for hitting them if they’re in the roadway.



Some people don't think with their brains or, they don't have much for brains.

Its never their fault (always someone else) and their pets are more important than another persons life or property.


Even though you have zero responsibility for hitting them, good luck getting money out of them for fixing the damage to your vehicle.

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MaineFarmer
Posted 1/16/2025 04:39 (#11057941 - in reply to #11057838)
Subject: RE: Road & Dogs ?


coast of Maine
The first thing when training your dogs about roads is NEVER ever let their feet use asphalt.It would be tougher on those with paved drives a bit.Never walk your dog on any road.If you must cross it with your dog a ride in your vehicle is the ONLY way.Use a command word"BAD ROAD"if they ever get near asphalt.There are other enforced ideas but this needs to start at a very young age.Almost as soon as they see you as the only one.I will assure you that proper road training is stronger than an electric buried fence.They need to fear the road.
I once had my friends dog chase my truck,,he hit the rear wheel and it flipped him and broke his neck,Sad.My dogs were doing the out the window smell and bark which lured him.His house is way too close to the road and they allowed the dog to cross at will.
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GS2
Posted 1/16/2025 05:32 (#11057966 - in reply to #11057430)
Subject: RE: Road Dogs


North Central US
German Shepherd - 1/15/2025 16:57

About 20 years ago one neighbor hit another neighbors dog on the highway and had a lot of damage to the car.   Open range law applied here and car owner had to collect from his own insurance company.



Where's here?

ND is closed range aside from a few areas.
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GS2
Posted 1/16/2025 05:34 (#11057967 - in reply to #11057355)
Subject: RE: Road & Dogs ?


North Central US
jd8850 - 1/15/2025 15:56

If it was that easy to train a dog to be off the road, there wdnt be any dogs on the road.


It was very easy to train our dogs to stay off the road and not to chase vehicles.
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tommyw-5088
Posted 1/16/2025 08:13 (#11058159 - in reply to #11057941)
Subject: RE: Road & Dogs ?


Texas
I’m a dog guy , I love dogs . Mine is in my bed right now .
My neighbor has I guess at least 6 , always in the road .

I just slow down and look for them .

We live on a road that probably one vehicle a day will come down . Might not be one but is .
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