OntarioCanuck - 5/6/2023 18:25 I try to stick to things that have been proven rather than just believe in things. Forget the 6,000 year story, earth is much older than that.
Bill since you like to stick to facts and reason would you explain this question please.
Science is able to look back in time about 5 billion years to see what they are calling Icarus. They look at Spiral Galaxies and they think they evolve into elliptical galaxies as they get older. A1689B11 a spiral galaxy is thought to be 11 billion years old. Our own Milky Way is claimed to be 13.6 billion years old. The Big Bang is claimed to have happened around 13.7 billion years ago. Do you not see a problem here? We can look back in time to see how things were and we can look at our own galaxy and it is the same now as what was. Should not the Milky Was be mostly an elliptical galaxy now if it was evolving or for that matter any of the the other spiral galaxies? So what has evolved? The facts do not seem to fit what science is presenting, if that is the case how do you know beyond all shadow of doubt that the earth is much older than 6000 years?
The discovery of Icarus through gravitational lensing has initiated a new way for astronomers to study individual stars in distant galaxies. These observations provide a rare, detailed look at how stars evolve, especially the most luminous stars.
In the case of Icarus, a natural “magnifying glass” is created by a galaxy cluster called MACS J1149+2223. Located about 5 billion light-years from Earth, this massive cluster of galaxies sits between the Earth and the galaxy that contains the distant star. By combining the strength of this gravitational lens with Hubble’s exquisite resolution and sensitivity, astronomers can see and study Icarus.
The team had been using Hubble to monitor a supernova in the far-distant spiral galaxy when, in 2016, they spotted a new point of light not far from the magnified supernova. From the position of the new source, they inferred that it should be much more highly magnified than the supernova.
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2018/hubble-uncovers-the-farthest-star-ever-seen
Spiral galaxies are thought to evolve into elliptical galaxies as the spirals get older. But it's unclear how common elliptical galaxies are as they're made up of older, dimmer stars, and are more challenging to spot. One of the largest known spiral galaxies is NGC 6872, which is 522,000 light-years across from the tips of its outstretched spiral arms — that's about 5 times the size of the Milky Way. In 2017, astronomers discovered an 11-billion-year-old ancient spiral galaxy called A1689B11. Its discovery will help scientists understand how galaxies transition from "highly chaotic, turbulent discs" to more organized and thinner discs, like that of the Milky Way.
https://www.space.com/22382-spiral-galaxy.html
Most galaxies are between 10 billion and 13.6 billion years old. Our universe is about 13.8 billion years old, so most galaxies formed when the universe was quite young! Astronomers believe that our own Milky Way galaxy is approximately 13.6 billion years old.
https://spaceplace.nasa.gov/galaxies-age/en/
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