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What size screen to use grinding corn and how many bph can I get through it?
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eweland
Posted 8/4/2018 18:57 (#6910866)
Subject: What size screen to use grinding corn and how many bph can I get through it?


east central MN
So I've been contemplating grinding my own corn on farm for a while and I was looking at used grinder mixers wondering what size screen I would have to run to get a really fine grind on my shell corn. Id love 500 microns but I don't know if I can grind it that small in that type of hammer Mill. anybody have suggestions on what size screen I should be looking for to put in a machine? And also what kind of fruit put I will get running that screen? I need to grind about 10 tons a week give or take. TIA
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chadincolo
Posted 8/4/2018 19:51 (#6910949 - in reply to #6910866)
Subject: RE: What size screen to use grinding corn and how many bph can I get through it?


Lander, WY
We run 5/32 and get around 700, I think about 5-700 lbs per minute depending on moisture... but that's not a tractor powered grinder/mixer, it's a hammer mill with a 50 hp electric motor. Call Jacobs Corporation, they know hammer mills and can tell you what screen and an approximate power need...
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Kooiker
Posted 8/4/2018 19:57 (#6910958 - in reply to #6910866)
Subject: RE: What size screen to use grinding corn and how many bph can I get through it?



An 1/8” screen in our 6530 Arts-way will grind corn down to about 600 microns

With a 2-135 White turning the pto we can grind about 700 lbs per minute


How fast you can grind depends on what grinder, what tractor, what screen and the moisture of the corn. Wetter corn grinds harder



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eweland
Posted 8/4/2018 21:59 (#6911218 - in reply to #6910958)
Subject: RE: What size screen to use grinding corn and how many bph can I get through it?


east central MN
4440 on a gehl 170 1/8" screen as it looks right now so I should get close to your numbers
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Kooiker
Posted 8/5/2018 01:11 (#6911363 - in reply to #6911218)
Subject: RE: What size screen to use grinding corn and how many bph can I get through it?



eweland - 8/4/2018 21:59 4440 on a gehl 170 1/8" screen as it looks right now so I should get close to your numbers




Maybe close but probably not quite.


2 reasons

1) While your tractor is pretty close to the same hp, your mixer has a self contained hyd system that is a parasitic drain on your available power.  Our grinder does not have a hyd system on it and we drop the corn into the mill with an electric auger.

2) Our mill is 26" wide, I think yours is 21".       If the screen wrap is the same you only have 80% of the screen area that we do.


With a screen that small I really believe that the amount of open area in the screen is what limits how much can get through.

I think you'll be closer to 500-550 lbs/min.     Which will still get 10 ton/week ground in a reasonable amount of time.    






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eweland
Posted 8/5/2018 08:23 (#6911623 - in reply to #6911363)
Subject: RE: What size screen to use grinding corn and how many bph can I get through it?


east central MN
Valid points but as you said 10 Ton a week can still be ground in a reasonable amount of time.
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mpiggy
Posted 8/5/2018 19:45 (#6912925 - in reply to #6910958)
Subject: RE: What size screen to use grinding corn and how many bph can I get through it?


Cen il
We have the newest arts self contained hy and we get 1000 lb a min.
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Kooiker
Posted 8/5/2018 19:48 (#6912935 - in reply to #6912925)
Subject: RE: What size screen to use grinding corn and how many bph can I get through it?



mpiggy - 8/5/2018 19:45 We have the newest arts self contained hy and we get 1000 lb a min.




What size screen?

What tractor?




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jcolli140
Posted 8/4/2018 20:59 (#6911088 - in reply to #6910866)
Subject: RE: What size screen to use grinding corn and how many bph can I get through it?


SC Wisconsin
I run a gehl 65 and it is slow, but my dad has a new Holland 356 I think and it will eat corn pretty quick, takes less than 10 minutes to grind 5000 pounds. We feed it slow at a high idle so it just cracks it but I'm sure it would take it faster at full throttle. The new artsway grinders look awesome and I definitely have one on my wish list for the future
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angus man
Posted 8/5/2018 05:38 (#6911402 - in reply to #6911088)
Subject: RE: What size screen to use grinding corn and how many bph can I get through it?


N E Illinois
Might I ask what you are feeding to need it so fine?
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MiradaAcres
Posted 8/5/2018 07:05 (#6911490 - in reply to #6911402)
Subject: RE: What size screen to use grinding corn and how many bph can I get through it?



scmn
Pretty sure the OP is feeding dairy cows. Around here the dairy nutritionist would like to see it at 400 microns or less.
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eweland
Posted 8/5/2018 08:25 (#6911626 - in reply to #6911490)
Subject: RE: What size screen to use grinding corn and how many bph can I get through it?


east central MN
Mirada nailed it. How are things in deep South West? :-)
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MiradaAcres
Posted 8/5/2018 12:41 (#6912081 - in reply to #6911626)
Subject: RE: What size screen to use grinding corn and how many bph can I get through it?



scmn
Good. At Sibley county fair today. Our Ayrshire was reserve junior champion yesterday.

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eweland
Posted 8/5/2018 15:34 (#6912384 - in reply to #6912081)
Subject: RE: What size screen to use grinding corn and how many bph can I get through it?


east central MN
Sweet deal! Nice looking heifer
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School Of Hard Knock
Posted 8/5/2018 08:39 (#6911656 - in reply to #6910866)
Subject: RE: What size screen to use grinding corn and how many bph can I get through it?


just a tish NE of central ND
I dont think that I would want it that fine for dairy feed....A hammer mill can about make flour out of dry corn.
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Crete
Posted 8/5/2018 11:53 (#6912006 - in reply to #6911656)
Subject: RE: What size screen to use grinding corn and how many bph can I get through it?


Badger State
What size would you grind it to?
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MiradaAcres
Posted 8/5/2018 12:52 (#6912113 - in reply to #6911656)
Subject: RE: What size screen to use grinding corn and how many bph can I get through it?



scmn
Grinding that fine can easily add 5 to 10 pounds milk production per day. The goal is more easily digestible energy so the finer the better; it makes a tmr more energy dense.
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eweland
Posted 8/5/2018 15:39 (#6912394 - in reply to #6911656)
Subject: RE: What size screen to use grinding corn and how many bph can I get through it?


east central MN
It's currently that fine (damn near flour is perfect on dry corn) we use the forages to control rate of passage. I have the mill grind it now and I know I won't grind myself cheaper than they can but I'm paying freight both ways and it's adding $0.65 a bu to my cost at the least. If I set it up correctly I believe that I have a opportunity to save 5-8k a year by grinding on farm but I need to be able to get it reasonably close to the same particle size.
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