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Is a 5000 lb.rated winch enough for a car hauler?
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69zfarmer
Posted 2/2/2018 05:48 (#6548387)
Subject: Is a 5000 lb.rated winch enough for a car hauler?


North Central Alabama		I am looking for a winch to mostly winch disabled vehicles onto a trailer.I would like to be able to remove it and move around by hand from trailers to trucks etc.I know on winches bigger is always better.But I worry about the weight of the larger winches moving them by hand .
HF has a 5000 rated that only weighs 35 lbs.Would it be able to winch a rolling car onto a trailer?It says it is a ATV/UTV winch which turns me off quick.I would like to go to the 9000 lb. rated and the "hitch receiver mount" but would I be able to move it around by hand with my bad back?I can't find how much it and the receiver would weigh.That (weight)is the only thing I worry about.

Edited by 69zfarmer 2/2/2018 05:49
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Thud
Posted 2/2/2018 06:04 (#6548403 - in reply to #6548387)
Subject: RE: Is a 5000 lb.rated winch enough for a car hauler?


Near-north Ontario, French River		Get a snatch block and you can double the pull of the winch. I’d say a 5k winch would be fine for occasional use, if you are talking every day use I’d go bigger though as the snatch block will half the speed.
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OHKen
Posted 2/2/2018 06:08 (#6548405 - in reply to #6548403)
Subject: RE: Is a 5000 lb.rated winch enough for a car hauler?


Ohio		Exactly .
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olivetroad
Posted 2/2/2018 06:10 (#6548407 - in reply to #6548387)
Subject: RE: Is a 5000 lb.rated winch enough for a car hauler?


Kingdom of Callaway - Fulton, Mo 65251		Whatever you buy - check the duty cycle. We put a harbor freight cheap-o electric winch on a gooseneck trailer that we mainly use for hauling three gravity flow wagons. They don't weigh anything, but just running the winch with very little loads gets the winch pretty hot.

As Thud said - every person with a winch should carry a snatch block, and we also carry a roll of extra cable with clevises on each end to reach out further.

Edited by olivetroad 2/2/2018 06:11
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jd4930
Posted 2/2/2018 07:35 (#6548566 - in reply to #6548407)
Subject: RE: Is a 5000 lb.rated winch enough for a car hauler?


Central ND		And keep in mind there is a difference between a #5000 harbor freight cheapo and a #5000 name brand, btdt, no more cheapo for us. We don't use a winch very often but when we do I want one that will work.......
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Sodbustr
Posted 2/2/2018 08:12 (#6548686 - in reply to #6548566)
Subject: RE: Is a 5000 lb.rated winch enough for a car hauler?


Western Iowa		X10000!!!!

HF winches are vastly over-rated unless something has changed in the last year or 2. I have had many guys here with them and they struggle with the lightest loads. One instance was a Dodge Coronet I had sold. Straight car, non-runner, but rolled freely. Guy had a HF winch on it (8000 I think) and it would just BARELY pull that car onto his car trailer. What a joke. They are not something I would rely on at all.

I have a 12,000 mile marker winch on one trailer. Good winch. You have to pay for a good winch. If I am 500 miles from home to go get something and have to winch it on, I sure don't want to wonder if the winch will do it or even work today.


Whatever you decide, put a BIG battery as close to the winch as possible, then feed it with the tow vehicle with a large set of jumper cables when you are using the winch. Low voltage kills winches, no matter the brand.
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Clodbuster1
Posted 2/2/2018 08:46 (#6548773 - in reply to #6548686)
Subject: RE: Is a 5000 lb.rated winch enough for a car hauler?


HF winches are better than that. I am not claiming that they are the best ones out there at all.

My HF 12,000 will pull any diesel pickup right up my tilt bed trailer with no problem and no snatch block. One battery close to the winch.

It would pull that Coronet even if you sat in it and held the brakes. :)

Edited by Clodbuster1 2/2/2018 08:48
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davpal
Posted 2/2/2018 11:39 (#6549178 - in reply to #6548773)
Subject: RE: Is a 5000 lb.rated winch enough for a car hauler?


Mid Michigan		Good grief, I would think a good atv winch would pull a car on a car trailer. We've pulled them on there lot of times with a come along. We used to drag snowmobiles on trailer with a hand winch that used a rope. This was back in the seventies. I think it was a boat trailer winch.
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hydro70guy
Posted 2/2/2018 08:59 (#6548816 - in reply to #6548686)
Subject: RE: Is a 5000 lb.rated winch enough for a car hauler?


Swaledale, IA		My guess is if the HF winch would barely pull a rolling car it was a battery problem or to small of wire between battery and winch. Not even the best most expensive winch will work in that situation.
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Clodbuster1
Posted 2/2/2018 07:49 (#6548609 - in reply to #6548387)
Subject: RE: Is a 5000 lb.rated winch enough for a car hauler?


As cheap as they are with a Super Coupon at HF, put the 12,000# one on the trailer, and have a smaller and lighter one to move around!


I bought the HF 12,000# one last year for my car trailer and I know it was overkill for that job, but that model has a spring loaded cable tensioner and the 9,000# one didn't. It has worked very well. No, maybe not the best one made on earth, but I am not in the middle of the forest winching myself to the road, and it gets the job done fine.

I agree with others to have and use a snatch block or two for bigger loads with a smaller winch if you decide to go that way.
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dave morgan
Posted 2/2/2018 09:29 (#6548887 - in reply to #6548609)
Subject: RE: Is a 5000 lb.rated winch enough for a car hauler?


Somerville, Indiana		to clarify, two snatch blocks are worse than one as far as pulling power at the first snatch block...Get three if you are considering using more than one for power, two only work to change direction.
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steve c-il
Posted 2/2/2018 12:10 (#6549234 - in reply to #6548887)
Subject: RE: Is a 5000 lb.rated winch enough for a car hauler?


Central Illinois		Like this ?



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WildBuckwheat
Posted 2/2/2018 12:18 (#6549252 - in reply to #6549234)
Subject: RE: Is a 5000 lb.rated winch enough for a car hauler?


Middlesex County, Ontario		The bottom arrangement in the diagram triples your pulling force.

Edit: winches are usually rated by first wrap pulling force. Last wrap pulling force is about half that. On a car hauler you never pull out enough line to leave the last wrap. So an 8000 lb winch really only pulls with 4000lb of force in a trailer application.

I don't really see the need for 100' of cable for a trailer application. If you cut the cable shorter so it stays on the first or second wrap then you can have the full rated pulling force of the winch.

Edited by WildBuckwheat 2/2/2018 12:28
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marlinpain
Posted 2/2/2018 12:31 (#6549295 - in reply to #6548387)
Subject: RE: Is a 5000 lb.rated winch enough for a car hauler?


45 miles south spingfield il.		Son bought a HF winch after checking them out in his off road magazines. They were rated very good plus for like 35.00 you get a extended warranty for three years. At two years nine months take it back for new one. Sorry can't help with what it would weigh
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tj_farms
Posted 2/2/2018 18:16 (#6550032 - in reply to #6549295)
Subject: RE: Is a 5000 lb.rated winch enough for a car hauler?



Ohio		That sounds dishonest?
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jfreed
Posted 2/2/2018 19:11 (#6550161 - in reply to #6550032)
Subject: RE: Is a 5000 lb.rated winch enough for a car hauler?


South West Michigan

tj_farms - 2/2/2018 18:16 That sounds dishonest?
   THIS is EXACTLY what is wrong with today's American society,"How can I @##$ the manufacturer and come out ahead"!! JMO

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PatCMO
Posted 2/2/2018 23:30 (#6550732 - in reply to #6548387)
Subject: RE: Is a 5000 lb.rated winch enough for a car hauler?


Pilot Grove, Missouri		I would reccomend a heavier winch. I put a 12,000# HF winch on my car trailer. It may be overkill most of the time. Last summer I bought a parts Pickup and it had one rear brake stuck. My options were to trust the lady selling it to pick up the back of the truck with a bale fork on her old Case (no power steering) and push it on the trailer, or drag it on with the winch. The winch drug it on just fine, but I wouldn't have wanted much less winch. Patrick
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