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mosinee dave
Posted 10/21/2017 20:53 (#6319696)
Subject: Classes of combines?


Mosinee Wi		I see people saying class 5 or class 7 combines how are they classified that way? Also what is a flagship combines ?
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kpaul
Posted 10/21/2017 21:26 (#6319782 - in reply to #6319696)
Subject: RE: Classes of combines?



north central Iowa, Hampton		class is only by HP. Not square inches of separator or something useful.
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Viper2bn
Posted 10/21/2017 21:32 (#6319796 - in reply to #6319696)
Subject: RE: Classes of combines?


Lottsburg VA		The flagship is the newer larger versions of case Ih combines. The original series with belt drive rotor, is called legacy series. The flagship combines are built with cvt drives for the rotor, and can reverse or rock the rotor from inside the cab to unplug. The legacy series are class 5-7 and flagships are class 7-9. Case has two class 7 machines depending on how many options you want. Lots of other differences but cvt drives, self leveling shoe, grain pain instead of auger bed are the majority.
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mosinee dave
Posted 10/21/2017 21:44 (#6319821 - in reply to #6319696)
Subject: RE: Classes of combines?


Mosinee Wi		So who makes the largest combine and who makes the smallest.
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CASE3594
Posted 10/21/2017 21:50 (#6319836 - in reply to #6319821)
Subject: RE: Classes of combines?


Tuscola, IL		Based on what criteria? Horsepower is easy enough to find, but it's only part of the equation when talking size. 600 hp won't do much good in a 1420 just like a lexion wouldn't be worth much with 125 hp.
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twraska
Posted 10/21/2017 22:01 (#6319863 - in reply to #6319821)
Subject: RE: Classes of combines?


Wallis, TX
mosinee dave - 10/21/2017 21:44

So who makes the largest combine and who makes the smallest.


Last I heard, NH CR 10.9 holds to world record for wheat.

China makes some very small combines, like maybe a 3-4' header.

Edited by twraska 10/21/2017 22:03
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Farms With CASE
Posted 10/21/2017 22:07 (#6319879 - in reply to #6319863)
Subject: RE: Classes of combines?



North Liberty and South Bend, Indiana		I believe New Holland owns the soybean record also. Surprisingly not with their largest machine. Lexion may hold corn record.
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CASE3594
Posted 10/21/2017 21:48 (#6319827 - in reply to #6319696)
Subject: RE: Classes of combines?


Tuscola, IL		51/61/71 series machines are 'midrange'. Legacy machines would be 25/23/21/16/14 series machines with the smaller feeder house.
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biscuit
Posted 10/21/2017 22:04 (#6319872 - in reply to #6319696)
Subject: RE: Classes of combines?


The AEM sets combine class based on engine horsepower. It doesn't mean a lot. It's an advertising gimmick as much as anything. It's also a moving target as the hp ranges evolve, subject to revision as time marches on.

The original Gleaner N7 was marketed in 1980 as a Class 7 combine. By today's classifications, it'd be a Class 5 or 6.

After NH and CIH were merged, the old CIH product and its derivatives became the Legacy combine. The newer and bigger NH chassis (refitted with a single rotor and painted red) and its derivatives became the Flagship.

https://www.agweb.com/article/what_gives_a_combine_its_class/

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Farms With CASE
Posted 10/21/2017 22:09 (#6319884 - in reply to #6319872)
Subject: RE: Classes of combines?



North Liberty and South Bend, Indiana		Even that chart is outdated already.
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mmaddox
Posted 10/22/2017 08:43 (#6320385 - in reply to #6319884)
Subject: RE: Classes of combines?


It is more that hp, includes other factors such as grain and fuel tank size. Simply a way to group machines, no really an indication of capacity in various crops. Think of it like a child in school, grade level does not really indicate the size, knowledge, or maturity or even age of a child, only the way a school has rated them.
As to the terms on the CIH machines, it is a way to shift the attitude of customer as the red and yellow machines become the same. Not really a bad plan.
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CASE3594
Posted 10/22/2017 09:45 (#6320511 - in reply to #6320385)
Subject: RE: Classes of combines?


Tuscola, IL		The terms for the CIH machines has more to do with identifying two vastly different machines. The 'flagship' models originally were the New Holland design in the front and rear. The middle was the CIH single rotor. The 'midrange' machines were the CIH design that started with the 1400 series combines. These terms came about when the 2588/2577 became the 50/60/7088. With the body styling looking similar to the larger machines and completely different from the 2500 series, they came up with these terms to, in a nutshell, separate the belt driven machines from the CVT driven machines. They couldn't just say the smaller machines since you could get a class 7 flagship or midrange. You couldn't call them legacy machines because the feeder house is different and won't work with the heads that the they'd used all along. With the 40 series combines, more and more of the 'flagship' features are making their way into the 'midrange' machines.
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