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John.jr
Posted 9/5/2017 15:13 (#6230536)
Subject: 3116 cat governor replacement.



Fancy prairie, Illinois
Working on a 9gk prefix 3116 in a gm topkick. Having a fuel issue, replaced filters, check valves, pump piston. Still won't start not even a puff of smoke out the exhaust. Can the governor be replaced without messing with the rack and adjusting. Open to other suggestions on what to check also. The shutoff is working, loud click with the key. I've also read something about updated linkage on the 9gk that can fall apart and die for no reason, but not real good info on that issue.
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Cliff SEIA
Posted 9/5/2017 15:30 (#6230554 - in reply to #6230536)
Subject: RE: 3116 cat governor replacement.


Had one stick on the 3126 in our 55 tractor this summer, it can be changed without adjusting the fuel rack and Altorfer can rebuild them at their Peoria truck shop.
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4WD
Posted 9/5/2017 16:50 (#6230677 - in reply to #6230536)
Subject: RE: 3116 cat governor replacement.


Between Omaha and Des Moines, 7 miles South of I80

John.jr - 9/5/2017 15:13 Working on a 9gk prefix 3116 in a gm topkick. Having a fuel issue, replaced filters, check valves, pump piston. Still won't start not even a puff of smoke out the exhaust. Can the governor be replaced without messing with the rack and adjusting. Open to other suggestions on what to check also. The shutoff is working, loud click with the key.

 I've also read something about updated linkage on the 9gk that can fall apart and die for no reason, but not real good info on that issue.

 

This is probably your issue, there is an update to replace some parts, inside the governor, to an updated design, to eliminate the little tiny clip that fails and causes a "No Start" complaint.

A big city, type of CAT dealer (read this: as a big main CAT dealership, with all the special tooling and test machines, In Their Shop), should be able to "go thru" and update your 3116 "9GK" governor, then run on a special test machine (to verify).

Note: The updated parts are a little confusing to install, and I think they "can be" stacked and/or assembled incorrectly, during reassembly. My old dealership just had one mechanic on Dayshift, and one mechanic on night-shift do ALL those 3116 updates, to eliminate those types of assembly failures; Plus those 2 guys got fast and efficient at that update = they got 3116 governors mailed to them from 2 other states, also. Hawaii and Alaska}

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John.jr
Posted 9/5/2017 23:40 (#6231613 - in reply to #6230677)
Subject: RE: 3116 cat governor replacement.



Fancy prairie, Illinois
The guy that owns the truck just wants to put a reman unit on for time reasons. Does the sleeve that goes through the head just slide in and have clearance on the linkage to slide the governor past? I'm hoping the valve cover doesn't need to come off, it's got a bunch of stuff bolted down around the dog house and not much clearance to get the cover out once the rear bolts are out.
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4WD
Posted 9/6/2017 09:00 (#6232097 - in reply to #6231613)
Subject: RE: 3116 cat governor replacement.


Between Omaha and Des Moines, 7 miles South of I80

John.jr - 9/5/2017 23:40 The guy that owns the truck just wants to put a reman unit on for time reasons. Does the sleeve that goes through the head just slide in and have clearance on the linkage to slide the governor past? I'm hoping the valve cover doesn't need to come off, it's got a bunch of stuff bolted down around the dog house and not much clearance to get the cover out once the rear bolts are out.

 

Yes, that sleeve (once clip is removed) just slides towards the inside of the cylinder head. Those sleeves can be stubborn. CAT shows using rubber jaw'd pliers, but they have only slipped on the stubborn ones, then I had to use metal channel locks, just to get stubborn sleeve to "first rotate", then the next set was to get slide back. (Note: if the sleeve has every been slide, once before, and previous mechanic lubed the O-ring, then it will be really easy to move. The problem is when people or the factory assembled it without any lube, then they are stubborn)

The sleeve won't touch anything going into the cyl. head.{once sleeve is slid, then you will see E-clip and pin that attaches governor link to rack link} We always install a new E-clip.

Valve cover should be pulled if you install a reman , anyways to set the F.L. spec, with dial indicator and CAT tooling (otherwise you are just guessing that the new reman governor unit is adjusted correctly to the rack and its injectors)

Also, we also ran reman governors, on the CAT governor test stand, to unsure the settings were correct for that HP and serial number of engine; then they got installed on a engine (many years ago, we found too many not adjusted correctly, BUT then CAT reman got better and they started testing correctly "out-of-the-box")

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John.jr
Posted 9/15/2017 00:12 (#6248792 - in reply to #6232097)
Subject: RE: 3116 cat governor replacement.



Fancy prairie, Illinois
Just following up. Installed a reman cat governor and the thing fired right up. The link pin is a pain in the butt to get back in btw. Thanks for the help guys.
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