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kfrem

Posted 8/26/2017 07:57 (#6210756)
Subject: Menards pole buildings

I have priced a few 60' x 104' pole buildings for machine storage only. so far Menards has been considerably cheaper than anyone else. Any thoughts or comments on them. I believe everyone uses the same grade steel panels now unless you upgrade to the premium.

Shimmy1

Posted 8/26/2017 08:05 (#6210774 - in reply to #6210756)
Subject: RE: Menards pole buildings

Central ND

Make sure you are comparing apples to apples, so many factors. Are they solid poles or laminated? Center to center on the poles, is it 4', 8', or 10'? Are the rafters 2', 4', or more? These are just a few examples, there are many more.

LX740

Posted 8/26/2017 08:08 (#6210779 - in reply to #6210756)
Subject: RE: Menards pole buildings

NW Iowa

We have had four of them put up over the last 10 to 12 years and have had 0 issues witth them. They offer a couple grades of tin and we have always got the premium pro rib which is lifetime warranty. We also have done poles 6' on center. The last 2 buildings were 60x132 and I believe they used 2x8s 3 laminated together for posts.

5 Head

Posted 8/26/2017 08:08 (#6210780 - in reply to #6210756)
Subject: RE: Menards pole buildings

South West MN

Cheapest is not always best.

Had a buddy who use to sell tin, he claimed the farmer was always an expert on one of the thing "price".

Menards sells cheap crap, would not even consider them on a shed.

What is the galvonation rating in the tin, post spacing, treatment on lumber, roller size on overhead doors, quality of walk threw do0r?

Ask your local lumberyard to price you 2 sheds one quality one cheap as possible.

iseedit

Posted 8/26/2017 10:19 (#6211016 - in reply to #6210780)
Subject: RE: Menards pole buildings

central - east central Minnesota -

5 Head - 8/26/2017 08:08 Cheapest is not always best. Had a buddy who use to sell tin, he claimed the farmer was always an expert on one of the thing "price". Menards sells cheap crap, would not even consider them on a shed. What is the galvonation rating in the tin, post spacing, treatment on lumber, roller size on overhead doors, quality of walk threw do0r? Ask your local lumberyard to price you 2 sheds one quality one cheap as possible.

I respectfully disagree . . . . . It is true, you get what you pay for. Down here, Menards lumber and supplies are good - as good as lumber yards. Yes, you have to sort though all the lumber (Lumber yards, menards, lowes, homdepo) - they are all the same. If you compare apples to apples - you can get better pricing with similar quality to lumber yards, from Menards and the other box stores.

easymoney

Posted 8/26/2017 11:41 (#6211137 - in reply to #6211016)
Subject: RE: Menards pole buildings

ecmn

our local coop lumber yard has far and away better quality materials then menards or the others.

menards buildings can be ok. depends what you want. if its for cattle I wouldn't be opposed to one since cattle don't care if you got 26 or 29 gauge tin or premium lumber. they will ruin it all the same. if its for a shop that you want to stand for a couple generations then I would look at walters.

5 Head

Posted 8/26/2017 13:34 (#6211339 - in reply to #6211016)
Subject: RE: Menards pole buildings

South West MN

iseedit - 8/26/2017 10:19

Menards special orders there stuff cheap. It you look at windows what looks like exact same window will not be.

Menards will take out a peice of interior aluminum that keeps the window from bending in the wind. From a reliable sorce that was not trying to sell me anything.

TwoGlovesLloyd

Posted 8/28/2017 10:47 (#6214750 - in reply to #6211339)
Subject: RE: Menards pole buildings

5 Head - 8/26/2017 13:34

iseedit - 8/26/2017 10:19

Menards special orders there stuff cheap. It you look at windows what looks like exact same window will not be. Menards will take out a peice of interior aluminum that keeps the window from bending in the wind. From a reliable sorce that was not trying to sell me anything.

+1. Even their Larson brand doors are specially made for Menards. Noticeably cheaper than Larson doors anywhere else. From 20 ft at 20 mph, they look the same, but when you start to inspect them they are definitely not. And I'm a Menards regular.

marc02

Posted 8/26/2017 08:11 (#6210784 - in reply to #6210756)
Subject: RE: Menards pole buildings

West Central, WI

I like mine. I went with the best of everything and still was way cheaper.

Don't forget the 11% off.

young buck1

Posted 8/26/2017 08:50 (#6210856 - in reply to #6210784)
Subject: RE: Menards pole buildings

Sibley county Minesota

My uncle built one in 1980, still stands today with no problems.

johns_79

Posted 8/26/2017 09:17 (#6210910 - in reply to #6210856)
Subject: RE: Menards pole buildings

Windom, MN

young buck1 - 8/26/2017 08:50

My uncle built one in 1980, still stands today with no problems.

My grandpa built one in 1980...needs to be torn down. Leaks badly and the poles are rotted off. It is insured so hoping it falls over someday.

gene_champ

Posted 8/26/2017 09:25 (#6210924 - in reply to #6210910)
Subject: RE: Menards pole buildings

NC Iowa

I would be most concerned with the poles. Do they offer a perma column of some kind. if so, it would be well worth the extra money if you want it to last.

HOGFARMER

Posted 8/26/2017 09:48 (#6210961 - in reply to #6210924)
Subject: RE: Menards pole buildings

NE OHIO

Agree on the perma columns as I built a 40 X 60 in 1976 and just had to put perma columns under the post. Would be a lot easier to install them when building it than putting them on now.

jdbob8100

Posted 8/26/2017 09:50 (#6210964 - in reply to #6210924)
Subject: RE: Menards pole buildings

Have a 1975 Lampert 40x80 where some poles are almost rotted off on the one side. How safe is this shed, & suppose wood between rafters looks a bit of dry rot?

jmiller

Posted 8/26/2017 11:06 (#6211084 - in reply to #6210924)
Subject: RE: Menards pole buildings

West central Ohio

Would definitely get perma columns. I would concerned about the quality of paint and coating on metal. I know of three lumberyard pole barns near by that the finish/paint is gone on the bend of the rib on the roof metal. Starting to rust. Oldest one was built in 2005. I know one of them was a Menards package. All three have leaked since new, but that is poor workmanship of crew, not quality of materials. People that moved to country and wanted a cheap horse barn. They got what they paid for.

TJH

Posted 8/26/2017 12:18 (#6211212 - in reply to #6210910)
Subject: RE: Menards pole buildings

NEIA

I could show you a couple Mortons that the poles were rotted off at the ground.

Nathan (SD)

Posted 8/26/2017 09:53 (#6210968 - in reply to #6210756)
Subject: RE: Menards pole buildings

Day Co. SD

The quality of a building has a lot more to do with the crew building it than it does the materials.

If you are building it yourself, Menards is great. If you got a crew in mind,he will probably want to deal with his normal groupies.

IH_always

Posted 8/26/2017 10:07 (#6211000 - in reply to #6210968)
Subject: RE: Menards pole buildings

Neighbor put one up a few years ago and used a local carpenter to erect it. Looks fine but ran short of tin and had to order more and it came in a slightly different color. If you have a local building crew you trust I would consider it if it was priced right.

tech5201

Posted 8/26/2017 15:33 (#6211502 - in reply to #6210756)
Subject: RE: Menards pole buildings

EC NE

With Menard’s, you can kinda build-your-own component list.
If you want different windows then they offer, you could even source your own; just make sure the design fits your windows.

Menard’s used to have a 50 pg booklet called:
Helpful Hints for Post Frame Construction
It was in a rack at the Commercial counters.
Really “helpful” showing product & construction technique.
It all seems simple after you put up one! :-)

I had a problem with some damaged trim caused by the sub-contractor’s delivery semi’s fork-lift ramming the trim-crate.
Don’t ever take delivery on a dark night with light rain.
What a mess.
Our stuff was stacked on top of a load of posts, coming from Eau Claire to be delivered to an Omaha store.
If I would have inspected the crate more thoroughly earlier in the process it would’ve been a minor issue.
I didn’t discover the damage until construction.
Menard’s stepped up and the replacement pieces were delivered to the site in a few days.

Menard’s/Midwest will send a concrete-cookie for the bottom of each post hole.
Backfill the post holes with 1” rock, not dirt.
Make sure there is plenty of grade-fall away from the base.
A one or two foot roof-overhang (soffit), all the way around, will help shed water away from the base.

If you decide to do something like Perma-Columns, etc., you should be discussing that with one of their Engineers.

When I shopped our small building, I spent some time talking with one of their Engineers in Eau Claire about some truss & snow-load issues for our zone.
Our poles are spaced at 10’ and the purlins are dropped down into the trusses.

https://www.midwestmanufacturing.com/MidwestManufacturing/productGro...

Edited by tech5201 8/26/2017 16:14

dunfarmin

Posted 8/26/2017 19:48 (#6211873 - in reply to #6211502)
Subject: RE: Menards pole buildings

Trusses from Menards and everything else get someplace else.

Beerslayer

Posted 8/27/2017 01:28 (#6212399 - in reply to #6210756)
Subject: RE: Menards pole buildings

There's some great comments and recommendations in this thread, here's mine. Until this year, I've never had a shop of my own to work in. Always in borrowed space or where I worked or out in the rain, mud, gravel, what have you. Finally things came together and I started planning a shop for my farm. In researching insulation I came across this:
http://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/blog/

Over the course of a few days I read every article posted there. I didn't get a price from them but did buy their roofing insulation. I had built many pole buildings over the years with my dad, and learned things just by reading that would have made things so much better and easier. I took whahttp://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/blog I learned from the reading, bought the materials locally, and hired a good builder to put it up. I insisted on incorporating a few of the ideas and techniques I learned from reading the Hansen blog. The builder was initially skeptical but after going through the process was amazed at how well it worked.

The best idea ever is floating the posts. Suspending them over the bottom of the hole with a couple of 2x6s. Makes alignment easy and allows a single pour to do footing and fill around the post.

The other good ideas I got were,

Using 1 1/2" x #14 screws for roofing, using stitch screws on the seams, heavier metal on the roof, use only kiln dried lumber, and bookshelf wall girts.

Short of recreating all of the good articles written there, the best I can say is that I ended up with such a better building that most I've seen or built myself prior. My sister put up a shop on her farm shortly after I did, and didn't pay attention to very much of what I learned. (Glad she doesn't read NAT) and is now in a legal battle with her pole barn builder. It's a mess. I saw the problems as it went up and my brother in law would say "it will be fine" so I shut the hell up. Now she's got posts twisting away from the trusses because they weren't bolted,,,

Best is if you can put it up yourself. Then you'll know that every screw got put in at the right tension and you'll know it got done right.

Worst is if you just accept the lowest price kit. What you will get is posts laminated out of 2x6 that will rot, screws too short to hold when there's snow load, and metal with a coating that will flake off and rust. It's interesting to look at the Google Earth photos of my Dad's place. Some of the newer buildings where he went cheap show a roof all rusting out now, and some of the older structures that were built better, still look good.

Unless you don't own the land, it's not worth going cheap.

Really. Read Hansen's blog, it will be the best time you ever spent.

paul the original

Posted 8/28/2017 14:02 (#6215032 - in reply to #6212399)
Subject: RE: Menards pole buildings

southern MN

I'm trying to understand the math that says a 4x6 is stronger than a 6x6.

http://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/2014/08/lumber-bending/

I see the math, but don't know how that relates to real world?

Paul

SpringBrookFarm

Posted 8/28/2017 17:00 (#6215242 - in reply to #6212399)
Subject: RE: Menards pole buildings

Paradise KS

And what the heck is wrong with laminated 2x6s? Any 4x4 or 6x6 will warp so bad they become useless.

dmax2001

Posted 8/28/2017 13:38 (#6215009 - in reply to #6210756)
Subject: RE: Menards pole buildings

Lawton MI

kfrem - 8/26/2017 08:57

I have priced a few 60' x 104' pole buildings for machine storage only. so far Menards has been considerably cheaper than anyone else. Any thoughts or comments on them. I believe everyone uses the same grade steel panels now unless you upgrade to the premium.

As a contractor, I buy a lot of pole barn material from Menards, and I like it. However, if you're looking at one of their packages compare how far apart the posts are and other things in the framing because they may not meet your local building codes. I've found that's part of the reason they're cheaper.

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