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wind tower
Posted 2/19/2017 09:33 (#5849413)
Subject: net wrap cutting and removale from in tractor or skidder


N.D

go to you tube and search for" net wrap cutter"

honest feed back please.

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mndairyfarmer
Posted 2/19/2017 09:45 (#5849431 - in reply to #5849413)
Subject: RE: net wrap cutting and removale from in tractor or skidder


swmn		Is it that heavy or how do you keep it in place without tipping it? I think the biggest problem would be ice on the net wrap
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wind tower
Posted 2/19/2017 09:54 (#5849451 - in reply to #5849431)
Subject: RE: net wrap cutting and removale from in tractor or skidder


N.D

it does not tip  you come in from the end  like the video . it takes very little down pressure . the blade is quite sharp. if the stand is on a frozen ground put it against a bale or any small obstruction  .

as for ice  and snow the part of the bale that sets on the ground usually is ice free  but even if there is ice and snow drop the bale before cutting  .It does cut.

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cowgirl182030
Posted 2/19/2017 10:39 (#5849524 - in reply to #5849413)
Subject: RE: net wrap cutting and removale from in tractor or skidder


michigan		Love it. Works really well. We use fork tine grapple on skid steer. Bed with stalks
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Crete
Posted 2/19/2017 11:39 (#5849629 - in reply to #5849413)
Subject: RE: net wrap cutting and removale from in tractor or skidder


Badger State		I suppose a link is to much to ask for?
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Supa Dexta
Posted 2/19/2017 11:45 (#5849641 - in reply to #5849629)
Subject: RE: net wrap cutting and removale from in tractor or skidder



NS Canada		Its just the stationary bade I think he means

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nRX-LrJIzw
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Crete
Posted 2/19/2017 11:58 (#5849665 - in reply to #5849641)
Subject: RE: net wrap cutting and removale from in tractor or skidder


Badger State		That could be one of the dumbest things I've ever seen.
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cow and calfs
Posted 2/19/2017 12:01 (#5849675 - in reply to #5849641)
Subject: RE: net wrap cutting and removale from in tractor or skidder


Fort Recovery. Ohio		That is a real brain dead way to remove net, look at all the hay on the net!
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wind tower
Posted 2/19/2017 13:26 (#5849834 - in reply to #5849675)
Subject: RE: net wrap cutting and removale from in tractor or skidder


N.D

just how it works for me.
There is one job I dislike and that is cutting and removing net wrap off round bales. So I came up with this idea. Cutting off net wrap when the weather is cold,windy,raining,snowing and you have lots of cattle trying to eat the bales while your cutting off the wrap.(not fun) And your wife has way more important things to do.

Some say or think there is to much waste. Let me explain.
There is hay that comes off with the wrap ,some times a lot sometimes little or nothing. But trust me I don't waste it. I will drop that in a bale ring all by itself, the cattle will eat what is palatable and leave the net.
After many feedings simply lift the ring off the waste set the ring down and scoop up the waste,  dispose of in a legal way. LOL .
   
Just piling the net on the same place everyday creating a pile where the cattle have access also works. the cattle will browse through it ,clean up what is palatable and use it for a mound.
My experience with net wrap is it balls up (not like twine) So it really does not drag far from where it was dropped.

Its a new approach to a old problem.

If you just think outside the Box and disregard tradition, It sure beats the tradition.

My hat goes off to Thomas Edison. LOL

Thanks everyone



Edited by wind tower 2/19/2017 13:28
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buckmaster
Posted 2/19/2017 13:33 (#5849850 - in reply to #5849834)
Subject: RE: net wrap cutting and removale from in tractor or skidder


ND		I could not let cows eat through the mess of net like that.
The guys on NAT would cry a river and never let it go. No seriously it does nother seem like a good idea doing that.

I wish I had a section of stockpiled grass to graze right now and to hell with the netwrap.
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dabeegmon
Posted 2/19/2017 15:16 (#5849994 - in reply to #5849834)
Subject: RE: net wrap cutting and removale from in tractor or skidder


SE Manitoba
wind tower - 2/19/2017 13:26

just how it works for me.
There is one job I dislike and that is cutting and removing net wrap off round bales. So I came up with this idea. Cutting off net wrap when the weather is cold,windy,raining,snowing and you have lots of cattle trying to eat the bales while your cutting off the wrap.(not fun) And your wife has way more important things to do.

Some say or think there is to much waste. Let me explain.
There is hay that comes off with the wrap ,some times a lot sometimes little or nothing. But trust me I don't waste it. I will drop that in a bale ring all by itself, the cattle will eat what is palatable and leave the net.
After many feedings simply lift the ring off the waste set the ring down and scoop up the waste,  dispose of in a legal way. LOL .
   
Just piling the net on the same place everyday creating a pile where the cattle have access also works. the cattle will browse through it ,clean up what is palatable and use it for a mound.
My experience with net wrap is it balls up (not like twine) So it really does not drag far from where it was dropped.

Its a new approach to a old problem.

If you just think outside the Box and disregard tradition, It sure beats the tradition.

My hat goes off to Thomas Edison. LOL

Thanks everyone




I had the occasion on a postmortem of a ewe last spring to pull a quantity of net wrap from her rumen. It was bunched hard into 2 connected lumps and likely was a major cause in her death. The color on the net wrap was not the same as any that I have had on any bales I fed here. As I don't like deads much you won't find net wrap piled here where any ruminant has access to it!!! (And never will.)
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cattlefeeder
Posted 2/19/2017 17:48 (#5850213 - in reply to #5849834)
Subject: RE: net wrap cutting and removale from in tractor or skidder


Central Kansas
wind tower - 2/19/2017 13:26

just how it works for me.
There is one job I dislike and that is cutting and removing net wrap off round bales. So I came up with this idea. Cutting off net wrap when the weather is cold,windy,raining,snowing and you have lots of cattle trying to eat the bales while your cutting off the wrap.(not fun) And your wife has way more important things to do.

Some say or think there is to much waste. Let me explain.
There is hay that comes off with the wrap ,some times a lot sometimes little or nothing. But trust me I don't waste it. I will drop that in a bale ring all by itself, the cattle will eat what is palatable and leave the net.
After many feedings simply lift the ring off the waste set the ring down and scoop up the waste,  dispose of in a legal way. LOL .
   
Just piling the net on the same place everyday creating a pile where the cattle have access also works. the cattle will browse through it ,clean up what is palatable and use it for a mound.
My experience with net wrap is it balls up (not like twine) So it really does not drag far from where it was dropped.

Its a new approach to a old problem.

If you just think outside the Box and disregard tradition, It sure beats the tradition.

My hat goes off to Thomas Edison. LOL

Thanks everyone



I am glad it works for you. No way I can see it working here. We feed bales in so many different locations it would be impractical. Plus on dry short grass hay such as Bermuda or crabgrass, the bales wouldn't stay together well enough. Maybe instead of accusing others of not being able to think "outside the box" you should realize just because something might work for you, doesn't mean it will work for everyone.
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wayneNWAR
Posted 2/19/2017 19:36 (#5850516 - in reply to #5850213)
Subject: RE: net wrap cutting and removale from in tractor or skidder


north west arkansas		On short Bermuda hay that thing would double as bale feeder because once you got that bale like that it'd go poof and they whole bale would be blowed apart.
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wind tower
Posted 2/19/2017 20:07 (#5850611 - in reply to #5850213)
Subject: RE: net wrap cutting and removale from in tractor or skidder


N.D

The fact that you feed in so many locations is solved by the fact that they are inexpensive to make you could have ten of them and  would not break the bank. 

also I mount one on  my hay trailer goes with where ever I need. 

as far as short stuff people take there bale processors and blow the hay on one spot and then pick it up with the loader. how short is that mess.

as for thinking out side the box   just eliminates reasons things can't work.

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cattlefeeder
Posted 2/19/2017 20:25 (#5850654 - in reply to #5850611)
Subject: RE: net wrap cutting and removale from in tractor or skidder


Central Kansas
wind tower - 2/19/2017 20:07

The fact that you feed in so many locations is solved by the fact that they are inexpensive to make you could have ten of them and  would not break the bank. 

also I mount one on  my hay trailer goes with where ever I need. 

as far as short stuff people take there bale processors and blow the hay on one spot and then pick it up with the loader. how short is that mess.

as for thinking out side the box   just eliminates reasons things can't work.




If you are going for inexpensive I think knives with the removable razor blades are about as inexpensive as you can get. Plus in all the different locations we are feeding with bale beds. And are we talking about feeding with a processor or putting bales out. I was talking about cutting the net off bales with your device. Once it is cut off the short grass bale is going to become a heaping pile on top of the stationary knife with the net wrap mixed in it. Sometimes people have to think outside the box and realize there is very seldom 1 solution for everything. By the way you were the 1 asking for opinions on a product you are trying to sell. You have done that more than once on this forum and whenever someone doesn't agree with you, you accuse them of not being able to think outside the box. Kind of closed minded for someone who values "outside the box" thinking.
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garvo
Posted 2/20/2017 05:36 (#5851113 - in reply to #5850654)
Subject: RE: net wrap cutting and removale from in tractor or skidder


western iowa,by Denison		well that are use a silage chopper and not deal with net wrap-specially hay
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wind tower
Posted 2/20/2017 06:53 (#5851209 - in reply to #5850654)
Subject: RE: net wrap cutting and removale from in tractor or skidder


N.D

you do have a point.

just trying to make things easier for some.

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olivetroad
Posted 2/19/2017 12:40 (#5849735 - in reply to #5849413)
Subject: RE: net wrap cutting and removale from in tractor or skidder


Kingdom of Callaway - Fulton, Mo 65251

They work great on dry, long stemed, densely baled hay that holds its shape with the net cut. With wet silage bales of stuff like wheat, or year old, loose bales, short hay, etc, we found the bale tends to partially come apart and drop a lot of hay right there on the knife stand, and you make a mess, especially if you then need to drive over to load in a tmr or across the pasture to bale rings.

We are going to install one on the edge of a new concrete feed mixing pad by a silage pit where we will fill a feed wagon and spills are the goal. 

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wayneNWAR
Posted 2/19/2017 12:58 (#5849773 - in reply to #5849413)
Subject: RE: net wrap cutting and removale from in tractor or skidder


north west arkansas		It's a useless tool for me. I guess it might have a place somewhere but not sure where.
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povertypoint
Posted 2/20/2017 09:36 (#5851513 - in reply to #5849413)
Subject: RE: net wrap cutting and removale from in tractor or skidder


SE SD		Looks like a mess to me, but may work well in the right situation.

I'll stick with the tried and true, more labor intensive and saves on
gym memberships :)


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