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Kiger Farms
Posted 9/14/2016 20:49 (#5529143)
Subject: IH 1460 combine


North Carolina
So I have found a cherry 1460 combine and a 2012 1020 15' grain table. Head was used two seasons. Looks brand new. Combine has 1800 hours and is pristine. No rust, no dents, cold AC and everything works. Rubber is two years old. Been sitting in the shed since 2014 when the owner passed away. Engines was I overhauled in 2000 for a broke oil ring. All documented. Machine was purchased new on this farm. Never owned a rotary or a IH. What are the pros and cons? What are the problem areas to check? What's a good price? I would be running 400 or so acres a year through it. Thanks in advance.

Edited by Kiger Farms 9/14/2016 20:50
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hinfarm
Posted 9/14/2016 20:54 (#5529154 - in reply to #5529143)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine



Amherst WI
$20,000, maybe even more.

The 1460 is arguably the best combine ever built. For what you want to do it would be perfect and it would run for several years.
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Kiger Farms
Posted 9/14/2016 20:56 (#5529161 - in reply to #5529154)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine


North Carolina
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School Of Hard Knock
Posted 9/14/2016 21:25 (#5529258 - in reply to #5529154)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine


just a tish NE of central ND
20,000$you are kidding , right?
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hinfarm
Posted 9/14/2016 21:34 (#5529284 - in reply to #5529258)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine



Amherst WI
Nope, 1800 hours on a simple combine that anyone can work on.

That new head had to be at least $15,000 maybe more alone when it was new a few years ago.
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School Of Hard Knock
Posted 9/14/2016 22:23 (#5529404 - in reply to #5529258)
Subject: WHAT year is that 1020 head


just a tish NE of central ND
OK, lets talk about that head once, DID they make them past ...say.....2004?
It sure does look nice!


Edited by School Of Hard Knock 9/14/2016 22:28
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boog
Posted 9/15/2016 06:08 (#5529591 - in reply to #5529404)
Subject: RE: WHAT year is that 1020 head



That caught my attention as well.. I was thinking when CIH replaced the 2xxx series with the 60/70 88s they came out with a new series of platforms, thinking maybe 2020?. I know we bought a 1 yr old 7010 in 2009. At the time also looked at a new 7088. Was told we could use our 30' 1020 on the 7088 but dealer claimed it would cost too much to convert it to fit the 7010 so we ended up buying a draper head.
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Kiger Farms
Posted 9/15/2016 06:10 (#5529594 - in reply to #5529591)
Subject: RE: WHAT year is that 1020 head


North Carolina
He is getting me the serial number so I can verify the year model. I really don't care honestly though. It's had very little use and has never sat outside. That's obvious.
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Farmer Dale
Posted 9/15/2016 06:21 (#5529610 - in reply to #5529594)
Subject: RE: WHAT year is that 1020 head



Casey Illinois
Head would have to be before a 2003. CIH came out with the 2020 head in 2003. Whatever the year, that head looks good with little use
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Kiger Farms
Posted 9/15/2016 06:24 (#5529614 - in reply to #5529610)
Subject: RE: WHAT year is that 1020 head


North Carolina
That's kind of what I was thinking
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AVP_Matt
Posted 9/15/2016 07:53 (#5529763 - in reply to #5529610)
Subject: RE: WHAT year is that 1020 head


Hennepin, IL
Not necessarily, they made the 1020s and 2020s together for a few years. I know you could still get a new 1020 in 2008, so 2012 is possible.
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johnny skeptical
Posted 9/15/2016 08:22 (#5529813 - in reply to #5529763)
Subject: RE: WHAT year is that 1020 head



n.c.iowa

yup, I think 2012 was the last year.

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FFJR
Posted 9/15/2016 10:49 (#5530005 - in reply to #5529763)
Subject: RE: WHAT year is that 1020 head



nc IA
I just got a 2006, 1020 x 25' this year
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Farmer Dale
Posted 9/15/2016 11:25 (#5530038 - in reply to #5529763)
Subject: RE: WHAT year is that 1020 head



Casey Illinois
My mistake, they did make both heads for a few years, according to Iron Builder 2011 was the last for the 1020
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HeyhayJCM
Posted 9/15/2016 06:26 (#5529616 - in reply to #5529258)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine


central ohio..between Springville and Millbrook.
School Of Hard Knock - 9/14/2016 21:25

20,000$you are kidding , right?


yout have to remember he's in NC. the east coast is a whole different market. a dairy farm here would love to have that combine for 20k.

several guys around here haul smaller combines back from the western States and double their money on each one.

I say go for it. you can use it for a few years and then sell it for what you have in it when it's time to move up.

good luck!

Edited by HeyhayJCM 9/15/2016 06:30
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Cattle Feeder
Posted 9/14/2016 21:11 (#5529214 - in reply to #5529143)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine


up here its 3500-7500
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Teeshirtfarmer
Posted 9/14/2016 21:14 (#5529222 - in reply to #5529143)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine


Semo
Is it a late enough model to be electric over hydraulic controls ? If not that late model header will not work . Also 400 acres with a 15 ft head is to small. That machine will handle up to a 22.5 ft head. Wider header = slower ground speed and better job cutting and keeping machine full.
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Oilfarmer
Posted 9/15/2016 08:09 (#5529794 - in reply to #5529222)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine


Ravenna Ohio

Wrong. I had a cable 1020. It's still running just down the road.

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centralillinois
Posted 9/14/2016 21:16 (#5529228 - in reply to #5529143)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine


What year is it? The early ones didn't have choppers and the rear end of the combine might not be strong enough to add a chopper. They started building those machines in 1977 and soybeans didn't have the green stems they do today. The rotor used to be able to digest the beans and everything came out the back as powder. If that combine doesn't have a chopper the beans today will come out like a rope. It's a great machine but it would take five grand to put a chopper in it and I'm not sure if the combine would take it. Consider spending another ten grand for a 1660 with a chopper and you'll have a much newer combine.
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Kiger Farms
Posted 9/14/2016 21:20 (#5529239 - in reply to #5529228)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine


North Carolina
He is supposed to find out the year model tommorrow and it's electric over hydraulic because that header was used two seasons on it.
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dave morgan
Posted 9/14/2016 23:14 (#5529471 - in reply to #5529228)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine


Somerville, Indiana
The axial flow can be adjusted to break up long green stemed beans and water hemp...raise the concaves and speed up the rotor till it splits beans then slow it down to where it doesn't...A piece of tin over the rear axle will keep wet stems from bunching up there and falling off in piles...An axial flow doesn't have to have a chopper to cut up the stems...We installed Gordon helical concaves that made a difference enough that we didn't have to change from wheat, corn, beans to get a good sample and grind the stems good enough for an even spread.
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4450
Posted 9/14/2016 21:22 (#5529245 - in reply to #5529143)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine


Nc Ks.
I think for what you want to do it would be fine. Would a newer combine be better. Sure. Would a bigger head be better. Probably although I wouldn't go over a 20ft. But if it's in the condition you say, it's probably better than some newer that's had more acres through them. If the price suits you, I'd go for it. fwiw.
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Kiger Farms
Posted 9/14/2016 21:30 (#5529272 - in reply to #5529245)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine


North Carolina
I can get it for less than what I have found the header listed for on Tractor House. The family just wants th equipment sold and the estate settled. The 15' head suits me because a lot of my fields are smaller and a lot have narrower roads. It eats up a lot of time taking it on and off for every move.
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Kiger Farms
Posted 9/14/2016 21:36 (#5529287 - in reply to #5529272)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine


North Carolina
It would be an experience. Everything around me is green. There are no big CIH dealers close by and I don't know of one running close so I would have to figure out how to set it on my own A small dealer an hour away. Major ones four hours or so. That's why everyone around here runs green. I just don't like working on the 20 series machines and have a hard time justifying spending $30-50,000 on a nice 9510 or something with these grain prices. I have always been enamoured with the design of the axial flows. For the price I can get it for if I hate it I can make money on it. But the engineering look solid.

Edited by Kiger Farms 9/14/2016 21:37
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casemagnum
Posted 9/14/2016 21:46 (#5529322 - in reply to #5529287)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine


NW Iowa
Buy it and it will work great! That was what I bought for my first combine but I had an 820 15' head. 1020 is tons better and to find in that condition is worth double at least. I did about 800-1000 acres each year with mine for about 6 or 7 years before moving up. Green bean stems will pull hard and leave them ragged out the back without a chopper but still doable.

Edit spelling

Edited by casemagnum 9/14/2016 21:47
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Clay SEIA
Posted 9/15/2016 08:36 (#5529835 - in reply to #5529287)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine



You don't need a dealer to help you get that combine set, they're quite easy to wrench on and operate and there are trainloads of people on this forum who have seat time in 1460s.

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Illinois Steve
Posted 9/14/2016 21:39 (#5529298 - in reply to #5529143)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine


North Central Illinois
I'm a little skeptical of the hours since it needed new tires and an engine overhaul. In any case, the 1460 was a very reliable and easy to rebuild combine. If you could get the combine and head for $10,000 it would probably b a pretty fair deal.
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Honkytonkman
Posted 9/14/2016 21:45 (#5529318 - in reply to #5529298)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine


Possibly the best combine ever built!!
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hinfarm
Posted 9/14/2016 21:55 (#5529342 - in reply to #5529318)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine



Amherst WI
Darn right!!

I swore mine could print money.

Owned it for five years. Ran about $2000 a year maintenance bill on it. Then would run 700-1000 acres through it a year. With fuel I think my cost to combine was around $12/ac.

Bought for $3500, sold it for $7500 with 1000 hours more.

The combine that replaced it has more creature comforts, capacity and a faster road speed but other than that I prefer the 1460.
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dhfarmboy1066
Posted 9/14/2016 21:56 (#5529347 - in reply to #5529318)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine



North Carolina
I have run one for 3 years now I love it . run a 20 foot 1020 . I have around 10k in mine , but I did do a little work on it when I got it . Changed from Gleaner to the IH would never go back . Doug
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cottonhauler
Posted 9/14/2016 22:17 (#5529388 - in reply to #5529347)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine


Zabcikville, TX
Great machines!!!! I think $15,000 would be fair. Most of what you'll need you can get from Shoup. Absolutely no comparison to a 9510, so get that out of your head right now. The 14 series combines are the most simple, most reliable combines ever built. Any walker machine is gonna have more moving parts and be much harder to work on. Do you grow corn?? An 800 or 900 series corn head can be found easily and are also (just like the combine) easy to find parts for. You won't regret buying that machine. Do some math, I'll almost guarantee you, it'll make you money!
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thefarmers
Posted 9/15/2016 10:41 (#5529997 - in reply to #5529388)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine


If your talking no comparison to a 9510 as to the ih is easier to work on, yes, I agree. If your talking capacity, I disagree. We ran a 2166 from 1998 till 2013, and we rented the neighbors 9500 one year when we had quite a bit of wheat to run. The heads were different size so sort of hard to really compare, but the 9500 I'm positive has more capacity, in wheat any way. And the 1460 would be even less with the short sieves.
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Kiger Farms
Posted 9/14/2016 21:53 (#5529336 - in reply to #5529298)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine


North Carolina
Tires were rotten, not wore out. They are still on the farm. Engine broke an oil ring he said and started using oil so they overhauled it. Stuff happens sometimes.
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Levee farmer
Posted 9/14/2016 21:53 (#5529338 - in reply to #5529298)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine


Louisiana
Lack of support would be a big issue. One big caseih dealer down here and they have to order parts for 23 and 1688 series. Simple wear parts not in stock . One store is couple minutes from home.
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sand85
Posted 9/14/2016 22:30 (#5529421 - in reply to #5529143)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine


C IL
$1000 and a poll here on NAT and you can stock 99% of what will wear/break on your shop shelf at aftermarket prices.

Do your PM's. Get a PDF manual if you need one.
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School Of Hard Knock
Posted 9/14/2016 22:34 (#5529428 - in reply to #5529421)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine


just a tish NE of central ND
Does it have a Neihoff alternator and a turbo and AC compressor?? (:(:Just saying.....

Dont get me wrong, Im thinking that would be a dandy great little machine to have.


Edited by School Of Hard Knock 9/14/2016 22:36
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Mark (EC,IN)
Posted 9/14/2016 22:32 (#5529426 - in reply to #5529143)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine



Schlegel Farms, Hagerstown Indiana
I've owned two 1460's, both were very good machines.

They are very dependable and easy to work on.

Shoup has most high wear parts.

I saw a very nice clean one sell, at auction, for $14500 last fall with no heads.

I'd say you would be a lot happier with it than a 20 series Deere.

If you put a set of "disrupters" in it, it will do a pretty good job tearing bean straw up

As for setting it, the book settings are very close. and a rotary is much more forgiving than a walker machine.

If I was you, I'd go for it.
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redleaf
Posted 9/14/2016 23:40 (#5529486 - in reply to #5529426)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine


east central sask
Tell me you bought it !!!
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Kiger Farms
Posted 9/15/2016 06:04 (#5529586 - in reply to #5529486)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine


North Carolina
Working on it.
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ihmanky
Posted 9/15/2016 00:25 (#5529506 - in reply to #5529143)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine



KY

Just buy it.  If it's anywhere near as cheap as you make it sound like it is, go for it.  Might not have ever been a more reliable machine made.  As someone else already said, worry not about being foreign to them, not an easier machine to set and run.  The book will get you close enough to leave it, but with a little experience and attention to your sample, you can dial it in to perfection.  Keeping common parts on hand would be no big deal, dealer or no dealer.  Messicks would take care of you over the phone and ship quicker than your local place probably could if they're not well equipped. 

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rockridgefarms
Posted 9/15/2016 03:28 (#5529527 - in reply to #5529143)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine


sw wisconsin
you found a gem, should last you many years!
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redpower1206
Posted 9/15/2016 05:58 (#5529575 - in reply to #5529143)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine


New York, east end of Lake Ontario
Best combine ever built. Simple, reliable and good capacity. Not as comfortable a cab as the new ones but the basic design is still the same machine as the 6088 etc. Easily upgradeable to a AFX rotor if you wanted, tons of aftermarket parts. A call to Shoup will get you most of what you need in a day or two. Disrupters will beat up the bean straw quite well.
I have a 1984 1460 and run 600-800 acres through it every year. Will put as clean or cleaner sample than a new one. Do good PM on it in winter and go out and combine all fall. I think the head might be older than they say but either way it is a good head. Buy it and smile all the way home.
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Kiger Farms
Posted 9/15/2016 06:07 (#5529590 - in reply to #5529575)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine


North Carolina
He is going to get the serial number for me so I can verify the year of the head. It really doesn't matter though. You can look at it and tell it's had very little use. Looks practically new. Even the knives.

Edited by Kiger Farms 9/15/2016 06:08
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Kiger Farms
Posted 9/15/2016 06:11 (#5529595 - in reply to #5529143)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine


North Carolina
That's all I have ever known. :)
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Kiger Farms
Posted 9/15/2016 06:22 (#5529611 - in reply to #5529595)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine


North Carolina
I have no clue on that. Think they kept it as a backup machine
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RDH
Posted 9/15/2016 11:18 (#5530029 - in reply to #5529611)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine



Scott What part of the state are you in?
I'm close to Greensboro. Will help you any way I can.I have a 1440 and know them real well
A 1460 is a great Machine if you get it you will like it I bet.
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Kiger Farms
Posted 9/15/2016 13:17 (#5530187 - in reply to #5530029)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine


North Carolina
RDH - 9/15/2016 00:18

Scott What part of the state are you in?
I'm close to Greensboro. Will help you any way I can.I have a 1440 and know them real well
A 1460 is a great Machine if you get it you will like it I bet.


I am in Yadkin County
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RDH
Posted 9/15/2016 15:31 (#5530368 - in reply to #5530187)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine



If you do get it Shoup is your friend.
They have about anything for the thrashing parts you need.
Clinton tractor is the combine people here in NC.
At one time they had over a 100 axials out in a 20mile radius from their store
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sj3788
Posted 9/15/2016 06:19 (#5529605 - in reply to #5529143)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine


swohio
I have a 84 1460 since 2000. Love it. Bought it with 2000 hrs, now has right at 5000. Great machine as most have said. Mine has many updates. You don't need a chopper. Disrupters will help. I put a AFX rotor in mine. Big upgrade in green stem beans. I too think one of the best combines ever made. That is low hours for a older machine. Very easy machine to work on. Worked with a neighbor that had a 4400. Did a great job, just no fun to work on. 15' head is small, but I don't see any reason you'll have trouble. I also have a 1680 with a 6 row head. Didn't have any problems last year where corn wasn't good about keeping combine full. I think you'd be fine, and yes, easy to get that head around.
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Mark (EC,IN)
Posted 9/15/2016 06:32 (#5529633 - in reply to #5529143)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine



Schlegel Farms, Hagerstown Indiana
midwest - 9/15/2016 06:06

Biggest drawback to the 14XX series was no in cab feeder/header reverser. You plug it, you back it out with a wrench.

What do they want for the 715 combine in the background? Ran one when I was a kid, not a bad machine.



Some late 1460's could have an electric reverser on the feeder house.
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wilddog
Posted 9/15/2016 07:36 (#5529728 - in reply to #5529633)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine


Mine has a reverser on the feeder. Buy it! Mine has been the most reliable combine I've ever been around. When there is a problem, they are easy to work on. Get the shop and parts manuals, they will walk you through repairs. Parts are no problem either through dealer or Shoup. Only problem I can see is if you do need dealer service on something, there will be a big travel charge due to distance. I've got a 22.5 platform and specialty rotor and have to go real slow in green stems, 20' would be better and also spread the straw better too. Don't need a chopper.Running 6 row 963 for corn and it does very well. This is a far better combine than Deeres of same period.
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1586
Posted 9/15/2016 07:27 (#5529714 - in reply to #5529143)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine


Hour meter could have easily had a failure at some time. Back in the 80's our tach went bad on ours so the hours were reset. Could be right though.

Year ago I shipped a 2800hr 1460 and 15' 820 to NC and it brought around $8500 IIRC. Was a 1980 model with 3 sticks.
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4450
Posted 9/15/2016 08:13 (#5529803 - in reply to #5529714)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine


Nc Ks.
I agree that a chopper isn't necessary. On my third rotary now and didn't have choppers in any of them. We no-till wheat into soybean stubble right behind the combine with no problem. Granted we probably don't have quite as heavy residue as corn country does but 40 and 50 bu. beans is no trouble without a chopper. Put disrupters in my old 1480 but would run out of power in green stem beans. Was running a 20ft. head so with a 15 ft. probably wouldn't be an issue with yours. If you don't know anything about the Ih's, one important thing is the shoe shaker bushings must be kept in shape to avoid damage to the sieves. And they have to be timed when replacing. Other fellas here more knowledgeable than me can explain it to you. Went from running gleaners for years to Ih rotaries after our local gleaner dealer closed. Never regretted it.
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jdg
Posted 9/15/2016 22:05 (#5531268 - in reply to #5529143)
Subject: RE: IH 1460 combine


Cen IL
Buy IT ! But also buy a service manual, a operators manual and you can look up parts on messicks website. Spend your money on tools and manuals. You do not need a dealer for this machine. Always keep it indoors when not combining. It will last you a long time for very little yearly expense. Sloan Ex carries Loewen combine parts.
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