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WIL RedMan
Posted 9/6/2016 20:45 (#5513306)
Subject: Case IH 9350 vs STX275


W IL		I am looking at a smaller 4WD to run the grain cart and pull a 5 shank ripper/turbo max/field cultivator that kind of thing. I know the 9350 has about 35 HP more then the 275 but just wondering if I should go for it over the newer 275. Hours are basically the same and both have PTO/3 pt and the 9350 is about 30k less. 9350 seems like the obvious choice just making sure I'm not missing something here.
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AVP_Matt
Posted 9/6/2016 20:49 (#5513319 - in reply to #5513306)
Subject: RE: Case IH 9350 vs STX275


Hennepin, IL		275 will have a 16 speed ps whereas the 9350 will have a 12.
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farmerkj
Posted 9/6/2016 20:52 (#5513337 - in reply to #5513319)
Subject: RE: Case IH 9350 vs STX275


Central Wi		My dealers mechanic told me the 275s have fuel pump issues that can get expensive. I imagine they are nicer to sit in all day though.
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michigancornfarmer
Posted 9/6/2016 20:53 (#5513343 - in reply to #5513319)
Subject: RE: Case IH 9350 vs STX275


the 275 have a caps injection pump the 9350 doesnt huge plus for 9350
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jbweston
Posted 9/6/2016 21:05 (#5513378 - in reply to #5513306)
Subject: RE: Case IH 9350 vs STX275



Central Ohio		We have run a 9350 as a planting tractor and grain Carr tractor. Works pretty well. Basically zero down time in 7 years.

Just keep your fan belt new and fiddle string tight and it should be a good rig. And watch out for that 6-7 shift! Just the nature of the beast with those 12 speed Fuji powershift.
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7110mag
Posted 9/6/2016 21:21 (#5513460 - in reply to #5513378)
Subject: RE: Case IH 9350 vs STX275


Owens Cross Roads, AL		Why keep the belt so tight, keep it from over heating? My 9250 got warm twice this season when discing wet ground. Wilson
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jbweston
Posted 9/8/2016 07:11 (#5516524 - in reply to #5513460)
Subject: RE: Case IH 9350 vs STX275



Central Ohio		It won't drive the fan, and water pump I think, right if it is not tighter than you are comfortable with. And keep a spare belt.
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bj66
Posted 9/6/2016 22:04 (#5513605 - in reply to #5513378)
Subject: RE: Case IH 9350 vs STX275


South Dakota
jbweston - 9/6/2016 21:05

We have run a 9350 as a planting tractor and grain Carr tractor. Works pretty well. Basically zero down time in 7 years.

Just keep your fan belt new and fiddle string tight and it should be a good rig. And watch out for that 6-7 shift! Just the nature of the beast with those 12 speed Fuji powershift.


Replaced belts and worn pulleys on mine this spring. Like my 9350 a lot, wont be getting rid of it anytime soon either. Used it on planter until 2 years ago. Use it for tillage, rock roller, and grain cart. If planting tractor goes down, it will go back on to the planter.
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eight
Posted 9/6/2016 22:13 (#5513625 - in reply to #5513306)
Subject: RE: Case IH 9350 vs STX275


South Texas		I had a stx275, seemed a pretty stout little beast. It had the deluxe cab with electronic remotes and automatic climate control, had trouble with that junk and of course it's expensive. It might still be around if it had the plain cab.
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Farmer8920
Posted 9/6/2016 22:43 (#5513683 - in reply to #5513306)
Subject: RE: Case IH 9350 vs STX275


Central, WI		Besides the Hp difference, which others can comment on to how much Hp you can gain safely on the 275 over a 9350, the 275 would be my preference. A good Cummins mechanic or pump shop can fine-tune a 275 pump also. The 275 would be better on fuel use, better cab and visibility, better controls, higher flow hydraulic pump, 16 speed over 12 speed. CAPS pumps in Steigers did not have as many issues like the early Magnum series. The CAPS pumps worked great and had a long life if they were not ran dry too many times. Also, parts are much easier to get for the newer Steigers. CNH has almost abandoned the older red steigers for parts availability. Trying to find a pto or manual tranny parts for a reasonable price on a 9350 is not so easy or you will pay a premium for them from a salvage unit. Complete kits can not even be bought any longer for the pto's.

Does the 9350 have the Row Crop Special option? It will help a bunch if it does for tighter turns and steering corrections. They usually bring a higher premium though. The 275 may have had that option but I have never seen one personally with it. Someone can possibly comment on this.

If you are looking at it for grain cart use, most likely the PS option would work much better in that case. That is where you will be much happier with the 16 speed over the 12 speed PS. There will be a noticeable lurch however when shifting the 12 speed PS under load, like with the ripper. Not so noticeable on the grain cart though. Another drawback to the 9350 12 speed PS is you always have to start out in 1st gear when you push the clutch in or stop. the 16 speed PS trannys can be calibrated to start out in a gear other than 1st. If you are looking at manual shift transmissions, that is a whole other beast.

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boog
Posted 9/7/2016 06:51 (#5513879 - in reply to #5513683)
Subject: RE: Case IH 9350 vs STX275



We use to have a 9230 with the 12 spd PS tranny. The hesitation between 5 / 6 was terrible, especially under a heavy load like a disc ripper. We never shifted the tranny on the ends running the disc ripper because if you did it would almost come to a stop then lurch forward when it shifted. As for the dropping to 1st when you stop, that was a PITA, especially when moving thru town with a lot of stop signs. Ours did have the "skip transmission option which allowed you to skip every other gear when shifting up to a certain gear. On the newer ones you can program to start out in a specific gear but was told by our CIH service manager on our Steiger 435 that 4th was the highest gear you could program to start out in. If the STX is like our 435, you shift two gears at a time, if you want to shift one gear theres a button on the back of the gear shift you have to hold in when shifting. It has more of a hesitation under load when using the button than letting skip a gear.
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biggrntractor
Posted 9/7/2016 09:34 (#5514245 - in reply to #5513879)
Subject: RE: Case IH 9350 vs STX275


Northern Illinois

Never had one but I think the 275 has the smaller cummins in it. Nice 325 wheeled coming up on farm close out this weekend. Espe auctioneers  Elburn, IL



Edited by biggrntractor 9/8/2016 02:17
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WIL RedMan
Posted 9/7/2016 10:15 (#5514325 - in reply to #5514245)
Subject: RE: Case IH 9350 vs STX275


W IL		I just looked up the one you were talking about. Very nice STX325. I would be all over it if it had a PTO.
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Farmer8920
Posted 9/7/2016 23:11 (#5516246 - in reply to #5514325)
Subject: RE: Case IH 9350 vs STX275


Central, WI		I would not keep the option out of buying it for the right price and you can always add a pto later. It's fairly easy to find a pto to add on to it unlike a 9350. CNH may still have some kits in stock on the shelf for them but of course you will pay for it from CNH. Separate components you can still buy. I helped a couple of my local guys install 2 within the last year. Not too bad of a job after the 1st one like everything else. It was around the $15,000 range for the first one with new internal parts and about $11,000 with a take out from a good used salvage unit. $15-$18K seems like the going rate to have a local shop do it right. Thru CNH it would be higher.

If you really need one with a 3pt and pto already there are several newer 325/330/335 Steigers with full RTK guidance in the Classifieds around the $100K range but they may be over your budget. Some older STX's also in there with the same engine and tranny specs and should cost less.
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AGR568
Posted 9/7/2016 14:15 (#5514793 - in reply to #5513306)
Subject: RE: Case IH 9350 vs STX275


East Central Illinois. 39.346676, -87.653484		I run a 9330 and STX325 as my only field tractors.
The 325 cab/controls/hydraulics are much improved over the 93xx series and the STX is the hands down choice for all day operator comfort.
I do haul liquid manure with the 9330, and it is nimble, cheap to operate and seems to be pretty durable...so far.

$$$ would be the deciding factor for me, a very close second would be tire package and remotes/3pt/pto etc
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bts-4210
Posted 9/7/2016 15:38 (#5514923 - in reply to #5514793)
Subject: RE: Case IH 9350 vs STX275


rather have the 9350. l-10 amd m11 manual cummins pretty tough had one with a 12 spd manual was a good simple machine that would pull a 33ft disk easy. One with 3 point and pto you would have a tractor that may not handle as easy as others but would do about every job you could think of 4wd are priceless on leeve plows and rice carts
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