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Justin ArkMo

Posted 11/17/2015 16:14 (#4902290)
Subject: Best gooseneck flatbed?

The Delta

Looking for a gooseneck trailer, something like 30 foot with a hyd dovetail. Which brand is the best? Aluminum or steel? Will be carrying 23k lb dozer, 6170R or 304K wheel loader. Have yall had good luck with the hydraulic dovetail trailers?

xtend1

Posted 11/17/2015 16:29 (#4902321 - in reply to #4902290)
Subject: RE: Best gooseneck flatbed?

PJ trailer here. 15k axles with 17.5 tires, and hydraulic dovetail. It hauls a JD 6140r, telehandlers, Case 580 backhoe, and 10k lift capacity forklifts. It handles the heavy weight of this machinery well.

I'd definitely recommend PJ brand. I'd look at triple tridem axles though, instead of dual tandems like me though.

HeyhayJCM

Posted 11/17/2015 16:53 (#4902357 - in reply to #4902321)
Subject: RE: Best gooseneck flatbed?

central ohio..between Springville and Millbrook.

+1 on the PJ!!!

Edit to add: I have owned Moritz (not bad) big tex (not bad) 4 different Gatormade trailers ( by FAR THE worst) and one PJ (by FAR THE best)
The best axles, the best paint, the best brakes, the best wiring and the best jacks. I will buy nothing but PJ's from now on unless something changes.
I will never pull another Gatormade even if they gave it to me fofor free.

Josh Moorefield

Edited by HeyhayJCM 11/17/2015 17:11

jd4930

Posted 11/17/2015 16:57 (#4902369 - in reply to #4902357)
Subject: RE: Best gooseneck flatbed?

Central ND

+2 for pj

sulmer

Posted 11/18/2015 20:39 (#4905286 - in reply to #4902369)
Subject: RE: Best gooseneck flatbed?

Central PA

+3 on PJ, they pull very nice.

Drilldo

Posted 11/18/2015 20:45 (#4905301 - in reply to #4905286)
Subject: RE: Best gooseneck flatbed?

Texas

I called today and got a quote on a red rhino from go bob. From what I hear they are the Cadillac of trailers. Identically spec'd (20+5 with 12k axles) it was $3200 more than a big Tex.

I am close to the oilfield and I see all these hotshot guys running big Tex with heavy loads on rough roads and they seem to hold up so I am leaning towards saving the money and going big Tex. It is not like I am going to be pulling it everyday or anything like that.

rjw

Posted 11/17/2015 17:57 (#4902508 - in reply to #4902357)
Subject: RE: Best gooseneck flatbed?

SW WI

Does PJ still powdercoat their trailers? I have a 2006 gooseneck flat and 2008 gooseneck dump with the coating coming off in large sheets. Little if any metal preparation I assume.

jd-tom

Posted 11/17/2015 21:50 (#4903142 - in reply to #4902508)
Subject: RE: Best gooseneck flatbed?

SW Minnesota

rjw - 11/17/2015 16:57

Does PJ still powdercoat their trailers? I have a 2006 gooseneck flat and 2008 gooseneck dump with the coating coming off in large sheets. Little if any metal preparation I assume.

I was just pricing out a new PJ trailer today. The salesman said that if you are ordering a new trailer (as opposed to buying one "off the lot") you can request powder-coat primer under the final coat of powder-coat for $110 extra. He said that this has only been available for about a year and a half so still doesn't know if it makes a big difference or not. I was thinking that for that price it might be worth it.

I have a 25' 2008 PJ flatbed right now and it has been a good trailer. Paint is chipping off in places where it gets blasted by gravel thrown from the trailer or pickup tires. The rest of the paint is still in good shape.

Mitchco

Posted 11/17/2015 18:28 (#4902567 - in reply to #4902357)
Subject: RE: Best gooseneck flatbed?

SW OH

I guess they must have made mine on a Friday or a Monday then. I have a 2009, 24,000#, 27+5 PJ and the paint is GONE. It was powder coated and looked great at first. Now it only has half the paint left. The landing gear turn hard and I have taken them apart, cleaned and lubed, but still turn hard. And the brakes when they work might slow down the trailer when empty. Other than that it's a great trailer!

Mitchco

simjam

Posted 11/18/2015 03:41 (#4903376 - in reply to #4902567)
Subject: RE: Best gooseneck flatbed?

North Central OH

I bought one in 2009. Took it back in 5 months because the paint was already worse than it was on my 2006 Corn Pro gooseneck stock trailer. Ordered a new Corn Pro on the way home. Still looks good.

illinidirtfarmer

Posted 11/17/2015 17:08 (#4902395 - in reply to #4902290)
Subject: RE: Best gooseneck flatbed?

WC IL

If you're going to haul a dozer weighing 23,000 the correct answer is none of the above. I don't know of any gooseneck trailer rated to haul that much weight. Even one rated for 30,000 GVW would not be heavy enough.

Justin ArkMo

Posted 11/17/2015 18:45 (#4902606 - in reply to #4902395)
Subject: RE: Best gooseneck flatbed?

The Delta

Will you tell me more, I assumed 2 12k axles would handle it. Need a trailer handier/ more manuverable than a detach.

illinidirtfarmer

Posted 11/17/2015 21:30 (#4903093 - in reply to #4902606)
Subject: RE: Best gooseneck flatbed?

WC IL

The GVW for the trailer includes the weight of the trailer, which for a 24,000 GVW trailer will probably be at least 8,000 lb. 23,000+8,000= 31,000. So you would be 7,000 overweight hauling that much. The trailer rating is not what you can haul, it's the weight of the trailer and load combined. A 36,000GVW trailer might do what you want, but the hydraulic dovetail will add to the empty weight of the trailer.

EMFarmer

Posted 11/17/2015 17:25 (#4902434 - in reply to #4902290)
Subject: RE: Best gooseneck flatbed?

Western Wisconsin

I would NOT get another PJ trailer myself. I have seen great trailers from both Felling or Diamond C. Looking at the website, you can get a Diamond C with tandem dual 15,000# axles, or tridem dual 12,000# axles. Even then I think it would be over the 30k gvwr with the dozer on.

bootsbowen

Posted 11/17/2015 18:17 (#4902540 - in reply to #4902290)
Subject: RE: Best gooseneck flatbed?

Gibson City Il

Loadmax for me 35+5 conventional dove low profile with 3 12k axles ... All we move is Ag equipment and some big folk lifts. It's been a great trailer good paint nice ramps the only thing I don't like is the chain box..the paint is 1000% better on the load max than the corn pro it replaced after the first month with the corn pro the paint looked like a 10 year old trailer. No matter what brand you buy be sure that you get 12" cross members!!!

Edited by bootsbowen 11/17/2015 18:19

Boone & Crockett

Posted 11/17/2015 18:26 (#4902563 - in reply to #4902540)
Subject: RE: Best gooseneck flatbed?

We have a couple kiefer built trailers, and they seem very well built. I think they are a very high quality trailer, and their price reflects that.

Ron..NE ILL..10/48

Posted 11/17/2015 19:25 (#4902729 - in reply to #4902540)
Subject: RE: Best gooseneck flatbed?

Chebanse, IL.....

We're happy w/our LoadMax also.

If you order one, I'd suggest ordering the factory installed winch plate. I built ours, but I'm sure the factory does a better job.

Also, order a RH step as well as the common LH step if you're over 60 yrs of age.

dmax08

Posted 11/17/2015 18:46 (#4902609 - in reply to #4902290)
Subject: RE: Best gooseneck flatbed?

PJ pulls great and handles a load really well. As far as being structurally sound, they are built really well. However, their powdercoating is terrible. Bad enough that I will look at a different brand just for that reason. I routinely pull 28k lbs plus the weight of the trailer so close to 35k. It's a 27'+5' tandem dual. Heard a lot of good things about Felling. Would really like a Crossman aluminum but I doubt I can afford it.

Drilldo

Posted 11/17/2015 18:53 (#4902630 - in reply to #4902609)
Subject: RE: Best gooseneck flatbed?

Texas

What are you guys pulling all these heavy loads with?

28,000lb plus a 8-9k trailer is an awful lot of weight for a one ton dually.

I too am in the market for a tandem dual with 12k axles to haul a 17-18k machine behind a one ton dually and that much weight makes me a bit nervous.

dmax08

Posted 11/17/2015 18:59 (#4902650 - in reply to #4902630)
Subject: RE: Best gooseneck flatbed?

Drilldo - 11/17/2015 18:53

What are you guys pulling all these heavy loads with?

28,000lb plus a 8-9k trailer is an awful lot of weight for a one ton dually.

I too am in the market for a tandem dual with 12k axles to haul a 17-18k machine behind a one ton dually and that much weight makes me a bit nervous.

Now I pull it with a 5500 Ram but before we got this truck I pulled everything with my F250 and 2500 Duramax. Elec/Hyd brakes are a must but worked fine.

Have a buddy with the same trailer that pulls 25k quite regularly with his 2500 Duramax. Not ideal I know, but it works.

Edited by dmax08 11/17/2015 19:02

Drilldo

Posted 11/17/2015 19:11 (#4902688 - in reply to #4902650)
Subject: RE: Best gooseneck flatbed?

Texas

dmax08 - 11/17/2015 18:59

Now I pull it with a 5500 Ram but before we got this truck I pulled everything with my F250 and 2500 Duramax. Elec/Hyd brakes are a must but worked fine.

Have a buddy with the same trailer that pulls 25k quite regularly with his 2500 Duramax. Not ideal I know, but it works.

So I guess I don't have much to worry about hauling a 17-18k machine behind my duramax dually. I was actually debating if it was going to be adequate or if I needed a bigger tow vehicle.

rweber

Posted 11/17/2015 19:13 (#4902693 - in reply to #4902290)
Subject: RE: Best gooseneck flatbed?

United States

Felling or Towmaster would be my vote, our county highway department purchased a Towmaster, they don't skimp.

srsu99

Posted 11/17/2015 19:42 (#4902778 - in reply to #4902693)
Subject: RE: Best gooseneck flatbed?

Central / West Texas

I have a load max hydraulic dovetail. It's a 32'. The heaviest we haul withit is a 16 k boom lift. Mainly haul steel with it. We are commercial though and have dot #. I would not haul much more than 20 k with one, Even with electric over hydraulic brakes I feel it is struggling to stop when hauling the boom lifts. We do have a class 8 truck to haul with and I prefer it, though breaking its trailer down to unload does take more time. We have several load max trailers and have been happy with them. If you are looking at aluminum trailers you must have an oil well on the farm.

bnelu

Posted 11/17/2015 19:48 (#4902801 - in reply to #4902290)
Subject: RE: Best gooseneck flatbed?

Ullin, Illinois

I see where you are located and Rice trailer makes good heavy trailers they will do custom trailers as well. Several people around us have Rice and Big tex

Justin ArkMo

Posted 11/17/2015 20:11 (#4902865 - in reply to #4902801)
Subject: RE: Best gooseneck flatbed?

The Delta

I love my rice trailers, they are currently 2 months out on gooseneck production though. Thanks guys, most locally are ddelta or big tex, not impressed by those really.

Drilldo

Posted 11/17/2015 20:21 (#4902900 - in reply to #4902865)
Subject: RE: Best gooseneck flatbed?

Texas

Justin ArkMo - 11/17/2015 20:11

I love my rice trailers, they are currently 2 months out on gooseneck production though. Thanks guys, most locally are ddelta or big tex, not impressed by those really.

The big Tex 22gn isn't that impressive but I like the looks and specs of the 25gn and am considering one of those. I have never had a big Tex heavy duty trailer but I have had several of their smaller ones and I liked them.

Justin ArkMo

Posted 11/17/2015 20:28 (#4902921 - in reply to #4902900)
Subject: RE: Best gooseneck flatbed?

The Delta

Big tex doesn't hold paint well. They do resale well here though.

Rayl

Posted 11/17/2015 19:59 (#4902836 - in reply to #4902290)
Subject: RE: Best gooseneck flatbed?

Saline County, Mo

Gobob I hear makes a good trailer

Rayl

Posted 11/17/2015 20:12 (#4902867 - in reply to #4902836)
Subject: RE: Best gooseneck flatbed?

Saline County, Mo

And Donahue is a good one too

jedeka

Posted 11/18/2015 07:05 (#4903574 - in reply to #4902290)
Subject: RE: Best gooseneck flatbed?

Boone, Iowa

Finishline trailers have a hydraulic dovetail and are powder coated.

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