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packerfan
Posted 9/19/2015 19:31 (#4797870)
Subject: Geringhoff Northstar vs Case 3408


Western illinois
Is there any comparison?
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Doug648
Posted 9/19/2015 20:01 (#4797930 - in reply to #4797870)
Subject: RE: Geringhoff Northstar vs Case 3408


NYS
Can't speak for the 3408, but I'm going on my eighth season with my Northstar 830F and it's been nearly bulletproof. However, when the time comes that you have to replace the basic wear parts, hold onto your backside. They are expensive!
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jdm
Posted 9/19/2015 21:33 (#4798190 - in reply to #4797930)
Subject: RE: Geringhoff Northstar vs Case 3408


West Kentucky
I have a 3408 sitting in my field that now belongs to a dealer and a Gearinghoff on the combine. 3408 is not for picking corn the Geringhoff is a very good head. I start on 25% corn and the 3408 would not handle that and there was no way I found to make it work. With the Geringhoff set the cruse control and swing out the unload auger and go.
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Lowyielder
Posted 9/19/2015 20:02 (#4797935 - in reply to #4797870)
Subject: RE: Geringhoff Northstar vs Case 3408


Read any of the threads about case heads. Junk

Gerringhoff means no problems
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nekfarmer
Posted 9/19/2015 20:39 (#4798043 - in reply to #4797935)
Subject: RE: Geringhoff Northstar vs Case 3408


NE KS
Get along great with out 34xx head but we've only raised 200 bu corn once since the beginning of time.
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marbro1
Posted 9/19/2015 21:00 (#4798090 - in reply to #4797935)
Subject: RE: Geringhoff Northstar vs Case 3408


Southwest Iowa
Lowyielder, aren't you the one that's got that informative post over in crop talk going on about those big yields? Not sure why anybody would take what you say as anything but junk. Can't wait to read more of your posts as they seem to be so insightful.
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ajj0034
Posted 9/19/2015 21:05 (#4798101 - in reply to #4798090)
Subject: RE: Geringhoff Northstar vs Case 3408


Nw iowa
Had a 34 got a 44 night and day difference even in down corn that been snowed on it still fed in
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Lowyielder
Posted 9/20/2015 07:20 (#4798543 - in reply to #4798090)
Subject: RE: Geringhoff Northstar vs Case 3408


marbro1 - 9/19/2015 21:00

Lowyielder, aren't you the one that's got that informative post over in crop talk going on about those big yields? Not sure why anybody would take what you say as anything but junk. Can't wait to read more of your posts as they seem to be so insightful.


Here's some reading material for you. And God forbid you ask how to improve your yield.

I couldn't find the post with the head that had gear box leaks after sitting and a bunch of other problems.

http://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=580401&mid=479...

http://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=569112&mid=469...


Cashgrabber - 12/15/2014 23:23

Have been using our 4412f for last 1000 acres and so far has been a nightmare. This head plugs in down corn and standing corn. the corn doesnt even get to the knife rolls before it plugs.The snouts with the height sensors get broken up on the bottom side from the heavy steel sensor banging it , And when they hit a rock the sensors rip right out of the plastic snout.The trash builds up and pushes on the drivers side shield from the wind rowed stubble and then ruins the slip clutch. The chains get out of time , and already breaking. In a little over a week there hasn't been one good day with this head. I don't understsand how caseih can even put their name on this header in this most obviously untested condition. It folds up nice to put into storage which is where it should never have come out of until it was finished and tested in the field.What a lemon. We shouldn't have to spend hundreds of thousands of our dollars to be caseih Guinee pigs, when you spend this kind of money you expect a product to work. What's the use of having a big fancy combine whe the limiting factor of its production is the POS header on the front of it . A lot more time and money better go into the R&D of a good completed and working header , corn ,wheat and beans before they release another one for the sake of all the unfortunate ones who have got the shaft on this one.

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marbro1
Posted 9/20/2015 13:47 (#4799143 - in reply to #4798543)
Subject: RE: Geringhoff Northstar vs Case 3408


Southwest Iowa
Improve your yield? Yeah, that's what your post over in crop talk is all about. That's hilarious.
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NEdirtfarmer
Posted 9/19/2015 21:13 (#4798125 - in reply to #4797870)
Subject: RE: Geringhoff Northstar vs Case 3408


SENE
packerfan - 9/19/2015 07:31

Is there any comparison?


Rented a 12 row Northstar back in 2009 and it was an excellent head. Two things I didn't like was the spring loaded snouts and how hard it pulled. Bought a new 3412 in 2011 and absolutely have nothing bad to say about it. Low header loss, feeds really well in down corn and has been trouble free.
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Jmark71
Posted 9/19/2015 21:50 (#4798223 - in reply to #4797870)
Subject: RE: Geringhoff Northstar vs Case 3408



Kentucky
I had a 3408. It fed great in dry fodder, but green or damp fodder and it was horrid. I am running a North Star now and there isn't anything I don't like better at this point. I have not run down corn, but the Geringhoff is better in all of the following:

Feeds great wet, green or dry conditions.
Takes less HP to operate.
Runs quieter and smoother.
HeadSight is more responsive for header height control.
Corners tighter without knocking down corn.
Gathering chains feed better and snouts cross rows better when cutting into headlands.

Ask again in a couple of years and I'll probably have more to compare. I did look at the 4000 series and they look to be a major improvement, but still wasn't convinced to stay with a Case head. So far I like my North Star better than any corn head I've run, including red and green.
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ihpuller
Posted 9/19/2015 22:51 (#4798332 - in reply to #4798223)
Subject: RE: Geringhoff Northstar vs Case 3408


alabama
I may be the only poster who doesn't like there north star , it wetter corn it ok , but we do have some that drys in the field and has severe header loss . And some varietys that tops break out of are a pain with fluff . We have both heads. We're picking dry corn right now the north star won't be used. I had very few issues with it being reliable .
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Jmark71
Posted 9/20/2015 15:23 (#4799243 - in reply to #4798332)
Subject: RE: Geringhoff Northstar vs Case 3408



Kentucky
ihpuller - 9/19/2015 21:51

I may be the only poster who doesn't like there north star , it wetter corn it ok , but we do have some that drys in the field and has severe header loss . And some varietys that tops break out of are a pain with fluff . We have both heads. We're picking dry corn right now the north star won't be used. I had very few issues with it being reliable .


Is your North Star a 12 row? I've heard feeding issues are worse in dry conditions with a 12 row.
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CaseFarmer
Posted 9/20/2015 18:03 (#4799482 - in reply to #4799243)
Subject: RE: Geringhoff Northstar vs Case 3408


Flora IL
You need to replace the snout adjustment pins with bolts and tighten down everything up there. Also on rows that don't feed well when wet get the old style deck plates from shoup.

There good heads just cnh messed them up with the deck plates and mickey mouse snout support


Oh and the retarded auger chain drive adjustment.

Edited by CaseFarmer 9/20/2015 18:04
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ihpuller
Posted 9/20/2015 21:35 (#4800089 - in reply to #4799243)
Subject: RE: Geringhoff Northstar vs Case 3408


alabama
12 row folding
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