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Kickapoogian

Posted 5/28/2015 07:44 (#4595312)
Subject: Gehl 2 speed Skidsteer problems.?(and Arogance)

Soldiers Grove Wi. 54655

Maybe 3rd time will be a charm?

Some of you may have read my thread about the problems I've had with the service department taking care of my needs for my Gehl Skid Loader and I'll post one more time to see if I can get more advice than from just a couple people..

Yesterday I wasted most of it getting my 2012 Gehl 5240 E Power 2 loaded and trailered to the dealer where it was purchased... As I posted the other day they had just dropped it off without calling and did nothing to it and the driver said if it acts up just to call them... The skinny of it is the next morning I drove up the road about a mile to get a bale of hay(#1200) and bring home to throw into some later calving beef cows.. All the time thinking they had replaced the drive again as they said they were going to.. I got back to the farm, slowed down, dumped the bale in the cow lot and unhooked the bale forks.. I put the pallet forks on and while I got close to the pallets I idled it down(it has a foot peddle also) and the right side basically locked up like it was doing when I sent it over to the shop... I called up the serviceman and he said even though their tech that came to the farm and seen what it was doing, rode in it and felt it act like it did they couldn't get it to repeat itself over at the shop so they didn't do anything to it.. They drove it around, moved some pallets, a few rocks and it didn't do the jerking, ect.... Instead of calling me and telling me this they just dropped it off.. (as I said within 15 min. of getting it home it was doing it again)

After being pretty upset and calling them back he said if they changed it and it wasn't bad it would have to be paid for... My extended warranty is up on 6/12/2015... They just replaced this main drive the end of December and it didn't have 30-35 hours on it when they picked it up a couple weeks ago..

The kicker was this...(one more time) yesterday I had to haul it over myself and the guy mentioned he thought it said in the owners manual that a 2 speed transmission wasn't supposed to be run for 2 miles at one time and it should probably be run a mile and put in low speed for awhile and then back to 2 speed... The skid loader I traded in on this had around 1200 hours on it and it was used the same way, plowed snow for my nieghbors 3 miles down the road, 3 miles back and the same up the road.. On snow plowing days I would put close to 17 miles a day on it and never had a problem... Have any of you heard of anything like this for Gehl Skid loaders? Or ANY skid loader with a 2 speed?
Here is the thread with a link to my original thread I posted... When I purchased these machines one of the sale's pitched used was that some of these machines might not get shut off only once a week at some of these large dairies.(or if the are being filled with fuel)... My current machine only has 780 hours on it and had 740 on it when they replaced the drive the first time.. I've documented everything including a video of it that I can't post as it's in to large of a file for me to get online with my old computer.. I swear I won't be buying anything from this dealership ever again after being demeaned and treated like a fool by the main sericman once again...

I'm looking for some feedback here so please read the past thread too and let me know if you think I'm wrong in being ticked off or feeling like I do....
Thanks
Kick...

http://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=557142&mid=458...

ps; As a farmer I well know new parts can be bad, it happens but I don't like being accused of abusing my machinery after I've had a fe of them and had none of the same problems any more.....

durallymax

Posted 5/28/2015 08:41 (#4595406 - in reply to #4595312)
Subject: RE: Gehl 2 speed Skidsteer problems.?(and Arogance)

There's a lot of machines that get a lot of miles put on them especially plowing, many of those run taller tires yet besides. One of our machines sometimes gets roared a few miles at a time. I actually just shift to 2 speed right away whenever I'm running one unless I need the power or finesse of the lower speed.

What was their reasoning for claiming they can't be run in 2 speed long?

Kickapoogian

Posted 5/28/2015 09:36 (#4595485 - in reply to #4595406)
Subject: RE: Gehl 2 speed Skidsteer problems.?(and Arogance)

Soldiers Grove Wi. 54655

I think it was just an excuse trying to put the blame on me for the replaced main drive going out in such a short time instead of just admitting that at times new(or Reman) parts can be bad...(or could have been put in not just right) The entire ordeal has been a fiasco with the way they've tried to show I have a lack of intelligence in matters like this.. I've given them business in the past and actually sent quite a few people their way and now I'm hearing they've had some of the same type of attitude given towards them too... To be honest when I heard him say it shouldn't be driven 2 miles without a break I felt like speaking up as if this is the case I would never have purchased a Gehl Skid loader... I'm sure these guys doing road construction beat the heck out of them much more then I could even dream of...

Edited by Kickapoogian 5/28/2015 09:37

baler brian

Posted 5/28/2015 10:45 (#4595588 - in reply to #4595485)
Subject: RE: Gehl 2 speed Skidsteer problems.?(and Arogance)

If you wish to, email me the dealers name, I may be able to help you.

Loren SE IA

Posted 5/28/2015 09:41 (#4595493 - in reply to #4595312)
Subject: RE: Gehl 2 speed Skidsteer problems.?(and Arogance)

Kalona, IA

Sorry I have no solutions for you, but I too would use a different dealer unless this one comes through for you and makes it right. I have a 5640 a few years older with a few less hrs but never had any issues. I think you must have gotten a DUD of a machine. I think they should be willing to fix it right or just exchange it for another loader that doesn't have these issues.

codydfarms

Posted 5/28/2015 09:48 (#4595505 - in reply to #4595493)
Subject: RE: Gehl 2 speed Skidsteer problems.?(and Arogance)

Any other dealers you could go to, or check out some other brands?

royman

Posted 5/28/2015 10:15 (#4595545 - in reply to #4595505)
Subject: RE: Gehl 2 speed Skidsteer problems.?(and Arogance)

alymer ontario

We have had two gehl loaders first one got 2500 hrs no issues the current has 2000 hrs and has needed a couple o rings and a hydraulic cylinder rewelded, i can garrantee that wach has ran at least 70% of its time in high gear for hours at a time

mafrif

Posted 5/28/2015 11:58 (#4595688 - in reply to #4595312)
Subject: RE: Gehl 2 speed Skidsteer problems.?(and Arogance)

NC Iowa

Hopefully you get the problem solved. FIL has the same loader and its been a dud for him too. Older ones have been really good.
If they aren't meant to be roaded better go tell 1,000's of self propelled sprayers to quit driving on the road. Way less stress in high down the road then pushing manure or any other work.

Is there another dealer close?

Wisconsindairy

Posted 5/28/2015 13:17 (#4595790 - in reply to #4595312)
Subject: RE: Gehl 2 speed Skidsteer problems.?(and Arogance)

Freedom, WI

If you can trade it in, I would do that. We had a 3640 like that and it was nothing but issues. Traded to a 4240 and it was a little better. Yours must have been made on a Monday or a Friday though because they aren't that problematic :)

nebfarmer

Posted 5/28/2015 14:50 (#4595878 - in reply to #4595790)
Subject: RE: Gehl 2 speed Skidsteer problems.?(and Arogance)

SE Nebraska, Near Misery and Cans Ass!

I'm not familiar with that exact model but some other Gehl's have a hydro lock/brake on both sides of the drive. It takes electrical power to release them. Sounds to me like a bad connection, safety switch or wiring. There's one on the right side of the restraint bar, park/brake switch probably under the front of the seat and one under the seat, Don't remember where it gets it's power from but I'm leaning toward the wiring harness on the right valve.

Kickapoogian

Posted 5/28/2015 15:20 (#4595904 - in reply to #4595878)
Subject: RE: Gehl 2 speed Skidsteer problems.?(and Arogance)

Soldiers Grove Wi. 54655

They are replacing it right now but all they would have had to do was call me first and tell me what was up.. I could have driven my car over, used the machine for awhile like I would if loading manure or dirt and in 15 minutes it would have acted up for them. Instead they just dropped it off.. As I mentioned the first time I used it for a 15 minute drive up the road and back with a round bale it acted up and was doing the same thing.... When I called them it was such that they didn't have any free trailers or trucks to come pick it up again so I had to get it there myself.. It wouldn't be a bad job and I know I'm sounding like a real whiner here but with my back even pulling a loaded trailer for 1/2 hr is enough to put me out of commission for the day.. I did mention it acted like the brake was actually trying to engage on the left side as it made sort of a "clunking" noise like I heard from an old 856 once when the brake cog dropped into the gear and didn't catch... He admitted that's probably what was going on as there may not have been enough hydrolic flow going through it.. He did admit it was their duty to have it running properly when I got it back... When I got it there I asked him where a bucket was so I could use the machine for a little bit until it started acting up and he just said don't worry about it we've got the part and are just going to put it in... It will be interesting to see if they check anything else out before just doing it now or put it in, get a call from Gehl saying there was nothing wrong with it and try charging me for it... I fear this ordeal might not be over with... They let me use a loaner before and I was in no hurry to get it back... I guess I'll be curious to see if they charge me for all the fluids, filter and hauling again too... It's one thing to have a break down as we all know they happen but when one is in pain and dealing with a person who is treating you like an idiot it's easy for tempers to flare...
Thanks for all the replies as it's really appreciated....
Kick

ps; I would trade it in but I really don't feel like spending another 10K at least nor deal with them any more then I have to at this point...

Edited by Kickapoogian 5/28/2015 15:22

SLIMCAKE

Posted 5/28/2015 15:47 (#4595933 - in reply to #4595904)
Subject: RE: Gehl 2 speed Skidsteer problems.?(and Arogance)

hydrolock solinoid.

Kickapoogian

Posted 5/29/2015 10:26 (#4597421 - in reply to #4595933)
Subject: RE: Gehl 2 speed Skidsteer problems.?(and Arogance)

Soldiers Grove Wi. 54655

SLIMCAKE - 5/28/2015 15:47

hydrolock solinoid.

Would that cause it to act this way when it was warmed up or worked awhile instead of not causing any problems if it were just started up and not worked very hard?
Thanks

WAYNE0224

Posted 5/28/2015 20:35 (#4596386 - in reply to #4595312)
Subject: RE: Gehl 2 speed Skidsteer problems.?(and Arogance)

west central ohio

Back to the 2 mile ordeal. If you have to put the machine in low range every so often, I would make him show me where it is in the operations and maintenance manual. If its not in there, then he needs to come up with a Technical Service Bulletin for that exact model to show you. I love it when a service manager tries to blow smoke at me on a tech problem, unknowing that I am a equipment technician myself! I have made several service managers back peddle and stutter. GOOD LUCK.

Kickapoogian

Posted 5/29/2015 10:28 (#4597427 - in reply to #4596386)
Subject: RE: Gehl 2 speed Skidsteer problems.?(and Arogance)

Soldiers Grove Wi. 54655

WAYNE0224 - 5/28/2015 20:35

Back to the 2 mile ordeal. If you have to put the machine in low range every so often, I would make him show me where it is in the operations and maintenance manual. If its not in there, then he needs to come up with a Technical Service Bulletin for that exact model to show you. I love it when a service manager tries to blow smoke at me on a tech problem, unknowing that I am a equipment technician myself! I have made several service managers back peddle and stutter. GOOD LUCK.

Thanks for the info and insight~ At the time he brought this up I was just biting my tongue as I knew it was BS as road crews use them, some of them never get shut off for hours and hours that work on the large dairies and they are built to move dirt and heavy loads...
If the "2 mile" driving was an issue who the heck would buy the machine?
Oh yes~ he was looking through an owners manual and anything that might resemble a service bulletin while I was there.... ... When they are done with it I'll be driving it around over there for awhile myself and seeing if it still does the same thing just in case it is what SLIMCAKE said he thought it was..(hydrolock solinoid.)

Edited by Kickapoogian 5/29/2015 10:43

JT Strawberry

Posted 5/30/2015 10:24 (#4599265 - in reply to #4595312)
Subject: RE: Gehl 2 speed Skidsteer problems.?(and Arogance)

SE WI

We've got a brand new R220 that makes a noise in 2nd range, our closest Gehl dealer is 1hr away. I bought it from a dealer at the end of Dec, 4 hrs away because they had one in stock. I took it over to the dealer 1hr away, after 2 days they said they all make a noise in 2nd range, I told them the 2 unites we had before this one never made a noise in 2nd range. I called Ghel to complain, Tec said to check hyd charge pressure, if not enough pressure the brake palls might not get fully released, and that would cause the noise we have. Called the dealer and asked if they had checked the pressure. Said we could bring it back but if the pressure was within limits it would not be covered under warranty.
I'm not real impressed with Gehl standing behind their machine.

Kickapoogian

Posted 5/31/2015 20:29 (#4601962 - in reply to #4599265)
Subject: RE: Gehl 2 speed Skidsteer problems.?(and Arogance)

Soldiers Grove Wi. 54655

So far I'm not real impressed with Gehl either of course..The first one I had my auxiliary hydrolic pump went out at 600 hours... This was art about 1 1/2 years so it wasn't covered... I'm sure both of mine had a 1 year full warranty on it though so maybe you should just take it to their shop and see if they will check it out to see what's making the noise if it's new..(I'm sure they are probably not happy because you didn't buy it from them though?)
I'l find out tomorrow morning how my skid steer turned out and mention a few things here like the hyrdolock solenoid if it still acts up.. it's their job to get it fixed right. If they didn't trouble shoot it right it's their own fault...
Good luck~

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