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haroldhb

Posted 4/16/2015 21:09 (#4520345)
Subject: case hand tye baler

My frist job was tying the wires on a case hand tye baler, for my brother in law, this was in 1951 pay was 2 cents per bale , and it was dirty you sat right behind the baler pickup

oldbob

Posted 4/16/2015 21:22 (#4520391 - in reply to #4520345)
Subject: RE: case hand tye baler

West Cental Arkansas

I have heard my Dad talk about hand tying on a hay baler also. He also commented on how dusty it was. This was in the early 50's also.

I have watched them do this at some old tractor shows. Only difference was it was on a stationary baler. Sure am glad our equipment has progressed by leaps and bounds.

JohnW

Posted 4/17/2015 01:53 (#4520704 - in reply to #4520391)
Subject: RE: case hand tye baler

NW Washington

I remember those things too, but never had to work with one of them. I remember loading bales behind a New Holland with the big tires and the "China-man" plunger that went up and down pushing hay into the bale chamber.
I think this is a picture of the Case hand wire tie baler.

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showboat

Posted 4/16/2015 21:33 (#4520430 - in reply to #4520345)
Subject: RE: case hand tye baler

Thank God I was too young to actually DO that job, but I remember watching my Dad do that job, along with a neighbor who always worked with him. They'd wear goggles, and after working for a while, they'd be finished, or take a break, and remove their goggles, and looked like the opposite of raccoons. White around their eyes, and every other part of their faces would be covered with dirt. NASTY JOB. showboat

3w farms

Posted 4/16/2015 22:17 (#4520544 - in reply to #4520345)
Subject: RE: case hand tye baler

S.E. Iowa

How many bales could you tie in a hour Wondering because I see where the minimum wage in 1951 was 75 cents an hour

Hay Wilson in TX

Posted 4/18/2015 19:13 (#4523469 - in reply to #4520544)
Subject: RE: case hand tye baler

Little River, TX

Man 75¢/hr was luxury. Here it was 35¢/hr or $3.50/ full day. I believe minimum was 50¢ when I graduated from college in 1956.

Reason people like hay is because we got paid by the bale and could beat the hourly wage.
Shoot $2/hr ( $20 / day ) was top wages in town.

I never had a position to stick wire when those were still running. Bought your wire in bundles.

don@nebr

Posted 4/17/2015 04:31 (#4520722 - in reply to #4520345)
Subject: RE: case hand tye baler

when I was 4 or 5 its one of my first farming memories dad or uncle on one side my grandpa on the other hand tying and one or the other driving the tractor. Sure glad they went to a auto tie JD 214w before I was 7 or 8 when it became my job to bale,,,drive tractor/baler

farmer45

Posted 4/17/2015 07:10 (#4520864 - in reply to #4520345)
Subject: RE: case hand tye baler

Washington Co Ks

As I said in another post, I watched a neighbor bale with a hand tie pickup baler when I was a kid. I have watched demonstrations of stationary baling at shows and see how they inserted blocks with slots to put the wires through. How did this work with a pickup baler? Did the guys doing the tying have time to retrieve the blocks and insert them or was there another method used to get the wire around the bale? I just remember seeing a guy riding on the sides of the bale chamber. I thought at the time that would be fun. I didn't think about the dust. I've tried to find videos of one of those balers working but so far have had no luck.

John EIA

Posted 4/17/2015 07:17 (#4520876 - in reply to #4520345)
Subject: RE: case hand tye baler

I remember as a child the Case hand tie baler, it belonged to one of our neighbors. It was a dusty job. Another of our neighbors then had an Ann Arbor hand wire tie. Both people sat on one side, the baler had a mechanism that put the wire back through from the other side. Then we purchased a New Holland twine baler, it was not the most trusty for tying. It often became my job to ride on the seat that was still provided to check each knot as it was made. I am sure that was much easier than hand tying wire, I am also sure it was just as dirty. These balers all had engines, the PTO balers were quite an advancement. Things sure have progressed over the years.

John EIA

dairyman78

Posted 4/17/2015 20:54 (#4521926 - in reply to #4520345)
Subject: RE: case hand tye baler

S.C. Wisconsin

I never witnessed it but my dad told me that everytime the plunger went against the bale it would puff a cloud of dust into the person tying the bales.

denny-o

Posted 4/18/2015 15:09 (#4523103 - in reply to #4521926)
Subject: RE: case hand tye baler

Michigan - Saginaw County

I did that job for years as a boy on a McCormick baler pulled behind a tractor - big old steel wheeled Case that ran on PowerFuel.

Yes, you inserted the wood dividers by hand - if you were slow about it you got a really big bale; sometimes a hundred pounds.
That also got you a butt chewing from the guy loading the hay wagon - which as I got older included me.
And you twisted the wires by hand.
It was busy but I don't remember it being back breaking. Hot, dirty, itchy, and deafening, though.

Loading the wagons and then throwing the bales up into the mow and building the stack was back breaking work - in June/July heat inside of a barn with no fans to move air. As the stack got higher you had a man standing about head high above the wagon load. The wagon man would hook the bale, pull it onto his knee then spin it upright and push it up into the air high enough for the middle man to hook it. He did the same so the mow man could hook it, carry back into the stack and place it just so. That was some 65 years ago.

Then during the winter I got to hook the bales again, drag them to the edge and drop them to the floor of the wagon aisle of the haymow. Drag them inside to the cows, break them open and spread them in the mangers - twice a day. You could say that like wood heat, the hay bales warmed me more than once.

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