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Mud Dauber
Posted 8/21/2014 15:17 (#4030559)
Subject: Chopping Corn silage, Pull type Chopper, Opening field.


The Green Hills of Missouri
I'm wondering how many here open up to chop with a pull type chopper and just run down the Stalks. My neighbor that chops for me says he does it all the time. Its my first time wanting to chop Corn Silage but don't like this idea.

If I could find a picker to open up with what would I do with the wet ears. The silage will be bagged for Cow/Calf. Could the wet ears be ground somehow and added to the bag?

Your thoughts please.
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countryraised
Posted 8/21/2014 15:20 (#4030563 - in reply to #4030559)
Subject: RE: Chopping Corn silage, Pull type Chopper, Opening field.



NE Iowa
we used to do it this way, coming back the other direction to get the run down rows will not leave much wasted.
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Sodbustr
Posted 8/21/2014 21:25 (#4031167 - in reply to #4030563)
Subject: RE: Chopping Corn silage, Pull type Chopper, Opening field.


Western Iowa
Used to do it as well, very little missed.
You do need to have the tractor AND wagon not running on the row. Might have to swing the hitch on the back of the chopper. If you are just shoving it down and not driving over it, pretty easy to get it all back in the head the opposite direction
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yongfarmer89
Posted 8/21/2014 15:23 (#4030567 - in reply to #4030559)
Subject: RE: Chopping Corn silage, Pull type Chopper, Opening field.


whitesville new york
We normally don't plant the outside 2 rows and normally skip 2 rows if we want to split a field. Don't worry if you do run it over it is adding to your organic matter so it is not going to waste!!!
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tillage-director
Posted 8/21/2014 15:27 (#4030572 - in reply to #4030559)
Subject: RE: Chopping Corn silage, Pull type Chopper, Opening field.



Central MN
We used to suck the chopper as narrow as it would go the come back and pick up the down corn on the way back. Now we use a old 3 row uni to open then chop with a pull type
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JoBob
Posted 8/21/2014 15:28 (#4030576 - in reply to #4030559)
Subject: RE: Chopping Corn silage, Pull type Chopper, Opening field.


West Central Wisconsin
We also used to run over and then back swath to try and pick up knocked down corn but always had problems with the belt-type gathering chains on the JD's. Now we plant silage corn varieties next to field roads or alfalfa and will leave three rows to split a field. Joe
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Dave9110
Posted 8/21/2014 15:41 (#4030591 - in reply to #4030559)
Subject: RE: Chopping Corn silage, Pull type Chopper, Opening field.



north-central Indiana west of Fulton
Probably can't get a sp to open up so either of the other options would be best. We used to plant an earlier corn around outsides and cut throughs and used the combine....didn't work that well. Have been turning 4 rows off as we plant in appropriate spots the last couple of years. A fellow Ag Talk member didn't think too much of that approach ... but the paint on our tractor is too important to risk by driving through tall corn ....maybe I'm in the minority, that's ok. Our chopper has gathering belts and probably would not pickup down corn well and might throw a belt and ruin it.... About 350 dollars !

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Crete
Posted 8/21/2014 18:50 (#4030839 - in reply to #4030591)
Subject: RE: Chopping Corn silage, Pull type Chopper, Opening field.


Badger State
The rental value of that wasted land would pay aboot 25% of our custom chopping bill.
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bsfarms
Posted 8/21/2014 15:51 (#4030603 - in reply to #4030559)
Subject: RE: Chopping Corn silage, Pull type Chopper, Opening field.



south central WI
We run it down, it ends up taking out 3 rows. We chopped with an 8400 with the big tires so very little chance of picking it back up. If you run the other way you can get most of it, but the rocks here always caused a problem doing this. We lost some crop running it over and caused some hassle as had full corn plants to chisel ovr.
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MCatSHF
Posted 8/21/2014 16:05 (#4030621 - in reply to #4030559)
Subject: RE: Chopping Corn silage, Pull type Chopper, Opening field.



Sandy Hook, MB

Hello Mud Dauber

I learnt the hard way, by my own mistake! The first year that I planted a field of corn, I planted the whole field. I knocked a bunch of nice corn down opening up the field & tried to pick it up coming back the other way. Again what a mistake. I spent more time stopping & reversing the feeder & pulling the corn out of the jambed up header than I did chopping those outside rounds. I then had trouble again later when I was working the field with the chisel plow, plugging up & dragging those stalks around.

Since then I shut 4 rows off around the outside of the field & where I'm going to split the field. Corn seed is expensive, so why not only waste it, but also cause myself extra aggravation later on??? I'm growing RUP corn, so unplanted strips stay fairly clean.  

Reason for edit: Typo.   



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carlsoncl
Posted 8/21/2014 16:20 (#4030647 - in reply to #4030559)
Subject: RE: Chopping Corn silage, Pull type Chopper, Opening field.


Beresford, SD
Drive it down and kick the cows out after harvest, you won't waste a kernel.
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AJACRES
Posted 8/21/2014 18:22 (#4030817 - in reply to #4030647)
Subject: RE: Chopping Corn silage, Pull type Chopper, Opening field.


SW Wisconsin
I lost two nice dairy cows by trying to run backwards on the outside rows, they found enough ears that they over ate and killed them. I would either find a corn picker or a custom operator to open up the field. If you don't run cattle on it go ahead and run it down but with cattle being so expensive can you afford to risk losing any??
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4WD
Posted 8/21/2014 16:37 (#4030675 - in reply to #4030559)
Subject: RE: Chopping Corn silage, Pull type Chopper, Opening field.


Between Omaha and Des Moines, 7 miles South of I80

On 38" rows, Dad did it, threw the center of the field.(two rows driven over)

 Note: Always had enough room, to get endrows, driving one-way around field, between fence and corn stalks(Always leave enough room for tractor and bushhog)

 

On 50 acre rectangular field, drove straight down the center (pushed over two rows), then returned to one of the "far" sides(edge of field), then got another set rows, then returned to center, to get two additional rows, going the same direction, as the first pass thru center of field = now, you have a little "room" to pull out, if something goes wrong.(for this next pass)

Next, you turn around, at center of field, and come back slowly and try to pick up, the two "driven over" rows. Once that is done, you do the center 1/3rd of field = making gap wider and wider. Next you do either of the outer 1/3rd areas. Lastly, you do the last outer 1/3rd of field.

So, the whole field only had two center rows, that were ever driven over.

 

We always knew cows, or cattle would be in those fields, after harvest anyways, so a little down corn wasn't going to be wasted.

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sparrell
Posted 8/21/2014 17:14 (#4030716 - in reply to #4030559)
Subject: RE: Chopping Corn silage, Pull type Chopper, Opening field.



Here, people often hire self propelled choppers to open and then chop the rest themselves with a pull type.
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baler brian
Posted 8/21/2014 18:07 (#4030783 - in reply to #4030559)
Subject: RE: Chopping Corn silage, Pull type Chopper, Opening field.



When we had 38" rows, we always ran it down and came back the opposite direction and picked it up. Lost very little with a correctly adjusted Gehl belted corn head.
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Tim in WI
Posted 8/21/2014 18:40 (#4030830 - in reply to #4030783)
Subject: RE: Chopping Corn silage, Pull type Chopper, Opening field.



Embarrass WI
If you can adjust your hitch so no tires run straight down the row, and the corn is just bent over, you can pick up about 95% of it when you come back.
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pegleg pete
Posted 8/21/2014 19:05 (#4030862 - in reply to #4030830)
Subject: RE: Chopping Corn silage, Pull type Chopper, Opening field.


thorp wi.

I no this doesn't help you guys much but I have a business of running around opening corn fields with a 6710 spfh , and yeah , I no - trust me I no , its not a profitable business , but for some reason I still do it . glutted for punishment I gess ! was on 80 different farms an had over 400 engine hrs when all done last year . some whole jobs and some snapalge but probly 80% opening corn fields for small dairy farms .



Edited by pegleg pete 8/21/2014 19:06
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Tompa
Posted 8/21/2014 19:17 (#4030884 - in reply to #4030862)
Subject: RE: Chopping Corn silage, Pull type Chopper, Opening field.


North shore of Lake Ontario
When we had our pull type JD it was near impossible to cut " against the grain". We devised a system of driving with the harvester in transport position which put it nearly right behind the tractor. By crowding the tractor to the fence line a bit the harvester would cut the rows that only the tractor axle bent over. Quite often it was only leaning a bit and the belted chains would pull it in. Worked pretty good at opening up lands also .The shorter and greener the corn the better it worked. Worked even better when we bought the Nh 892 as the steel chains were more agresive.
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JoBob
Posted 8/21/2014 19:59 (#4030966 - in reply to #4030862)
Subject: RE: Chopping Corn silage, Pull type Chopper, Opening field.


West Central Wisconsin
pegleg pete - 8/21/2014 19:05

I no this doesn't help you guys much but I have a business of running around opening corn fields with a 6710 spfh , and yeah , I no - trust me I no , its not a profitable business , but for some reason I still do it . glutted for punishment I gess ! was on 80 different farms an had over 400 engine hrs when all done last year . some whole jobs and some snapalge but probly 80% opening corn fields for small dairy farms .



Hey Pete! How far away from Sparta are you? ;) Joe
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pegleg pete
Posted 8/21/2014 22:51 (#4031352 - in reply to #4030966)
Subject: RE: Chopping Corn silage, Pull type Chopper, Opening field.


thorp wi.

JoBob - 8/21/2014 18:59
pegleg pete - 8/21/2014 19:05

I no this doesn't help you guys much but I have a business of running around opening corn fields with a 6710 spfh , and yeah , I no - trust me I no , its not a profitable business , but for some reason I still do it . glutted for punishment I gess ! was on 80 different farms an had over 400 engine hrs when all done last year . some whole jobs and some snapalge but probly 80% opening corn fields for small dairy farms .

Hey Pete! How far away from Sparta are you? ;) Joe
bot 2 hrs nort in a truck !

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wade4545
Posted 8/21/2014 19:24 (#4030895 - in reply to #4030559)
Subject: RE: Chopping Corn silage, Pull type Chopper, Opening field.



We run over 2 rows then pick up what we can going th opposite way, usually kick the cows out on the field to pick up any cobs that fall off.
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Direct Injected
Posted 8/21/2014 20:30 (#4031024 - in reply to #4030895)
Subject: RE: Chopping Corn silage, Pull type Chopper, Opening field.


SW, Missouri
We once opened a field up for the neighbor. He couldn't handle losing two rows by running over it but gave us 6 rows around and then two six row passes thru the middle. 4 loads total... Go figure

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Ben2013
Posted 8/21/2014 20:46 (#4031067 - in reply to #4030559)
Subject: RE: Chopping Corn silage, Pull type Chopper, Opening field.


Western, Pa
My dad used to have my brother and i cut the outside 2 rows and put them in the back of the truck and we would feed them to the cows or manually feed them into the chopper
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dave morgan
Posted 8/21/2014 21:00 (#4031101 - in reply to #4031067)
Subject: RE: Chopping Corn silage, Pull type Chopper, Opening field.


Somerville, Indiana
reminds me of neighbor saying his Dad bought a sweep auger when the kids got out of high school and harder to round up.
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johnwayne360
Posted 8/21/2014 20:52 (#4031079 - in reply to #4030559)
Subject: RE: Chopping Corn silage, Pull type Chopper, Opening field.


near dyersville iowa
Have a stalk chopper and round baler? run the rows down, pick up what you can going the opposite way. Then run over with the stalk chopper and bale. I would bet you get most of whatever is there.
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ahay68979
Posted 8/21/2014 20:58 (#4031094 - in reply to #4031079)
Subject: RE: Chopping Corn silage, Pull type Chopper, Opening field.


Saronville NE
We always just drive down the corn, then try and pick it up going other way. Don't get it all but not end of world.
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WJKEIGER
Posted 8/21/2014 21:05 (#4031111 - in reply to #4030559)
Subject: RE: Chopping Corn silage, Pull type Chopper, Opening field.


nw NC
I have hilly fields that need terraces for water runoff control. The channels are never tilled and grow winter or summer annual vegetation that gets sprayed or mowed. These channels make it easy to start chopping with no run down wasted corn.

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NEMO Farmer
Posted 8/21/2014 21:07 (#4031119 - in reply to #4030559)
Subject: RE: Chopping Corn silage, Pull type Chopper, Opening field.


Shelbina MO
We drive but plant and chop with same tractor set up for 30in rows u. U pick up more than u think . We have terraces and usually go down the channel this year was wet early so the corn there's not as tall we try to find a bad spot in the field to open it up . Wish it was all good corn and hope yours is
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vickruse
Posted 8/22/2014 07:54 (#4031710 - in reply to #4031119)
Subject: RE: Chopping Corn silage, Pull type Chopper, Opening field.



SE Iowa
Most everyone around here runs their combine thru to open up the field.
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