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Pofarmer
Posted 6/8/2014 20:38 (#3908671)
Subject: Breaking 4h steer with burro.



So, I have a steer that is being a butt. Doesn't want to go then wants to run. Got a neighbors burro available but wondering the best way to hook them up. Years ago we just used a heavy belt behind the front legs, but it would really wear on the burros.
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barker4650
Posted 6/8/2014 20:57 (#3908723 - in reply to #3908671)
Subject: RE: Breaking 4h steer with burro.


N. E. Indiana		We use a wide cotton cinch around the neck of the donkey. Make sure it is comfortable for them and not choking off their air. 21 should do the trick if the donkey is any good. Have used them for years and just bought another one last winter.
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Pofarmer
Posted 6/8/2014 21:17 (#3908803 - in reply to #3908723)
Subject: RE: Breaking 4h steer with burro.



21?
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barker4650
Posted 6/8/2014 21:29 (#3908834 - in reply to #3908803)
Subject: RE: Breaking 4h steer with burro.


N. E. Indiana		Ment to say 24 hours should do it.
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LIMS
Posted 6/8/2014 21:02 (#3908742 - in reply to #3908671)
Subject: we used to use a pack cinch


I think it was called. put it around the donkeys neck, run the halter thru the d rings and cinch em up close. don't want to give him room to bite or kick the steer. make sure the donkey lets him drink. They can be pretty ornery. steer will respect halter pressure pretty soon. worked best at breaking them from the lunging.
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barker4650
Posted 6/8/2014 21:31 (#3908841 - in reply to #3908742)
Subject: RE: we used to use a pack cinch


N. E. Indiana		A good donkey will only let the calf eat or drink when they behave. The calf will be fine without water for 24 hours.
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LIMS
Posted 6/8/2014 21:49 (#3908897 - in reply to #3908841)
Subject: RE: we used to use a pack cinch


he might not have a good one.
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spudnut81
Posted 6/8/2014 21:41 (#3908870 - in reply to #3908671)
Subject: RE: Breaking 4h steer with burro.


Had a donkey for several years. Would connect them halter to halter. Leave about 2 to 3 ft. of slack between them. Yes, the donkey could get a kick in once in a while but that just helped adjust the attitude quicker. Calf would eat and drink when the donkey decided. Left them hooked up anywhere from 3 to 5 days depending on the calf.
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missourifarmer
Posted 6/8/2014 21:41 (#3908873 - in reply to #3908671)
Subject: RE: Breaking 4h steer with burro.



Central Missouri		Sullivan supply sells a donkey breaking collar. www.sullivansupply.com
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NoTill1825
Posted 6/9/2014 06:43 (#3909264 - in reply to #3908671)
Subject: RE: Breaking 4h steer with burro.


NC Indiana		A rope tied to an intertube and a solid set of rafters just over their head works as well. Tractor with toolbar works most times as well. Local guy made a trailer the kids can set in safely and tie the calves to the back so the calves see the kids and "think" the kids are pulling them. Good luck!
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barker4650
Posted 6/9/2014 07:27 (#3909338 - in reply to #3909264)
Subject: RE: Breaking 4h steer with burro.


N. E. Indiana		Inner tube trick will work also, but can end up with a dead calf due to a broken neck. BTDT
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NoTill1825
Posted 6/10/2014 06:07 (#3910981 - in reply to #3909338)
Subject: RE: Breaking 4h steer with burro.


NC Indiana		Dead donkeys and injured calves are not very fun either.
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SOILcattleman
Posted 6/9/2014 21:34 (#3910576 - in reply to #3908671)
Subject: RE: Breaking 4h steer with burro.


West Salem, Illinois		Another thing that works is to tie the calf to the back of an empty rack wagon. Tie them towards the middle so that they cannot pass it and also try to avoid the gravel if they want to lock up because they can hurt there feet.

Neighbor uses donkeys to break a lot of his calves and he uses a big dog collar? I believe that it is actually a collar for cattle like a tie stall dairy might use? He would slide a 3 inch welded ring unto it than attaches it to the halter so that it can only slide down so far and when the donkey takes off it almost fits like a collar on a draft horse. He snubs the calf up pretty close, say maybe 8 to 10 inches, and turns them loose together in a run. I don't recall him leaving them together for much more than a few hours, mostly hooked them together after am feeding and would untie them at the pm feeding. Seen it work on quite a few calves.
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Jim Ed Love
Posted 6/9/2014 22:29 (#3910746 - in reply to #3910576)
Subject: RE: Breaking 4h steer with burro.



Indian Territory		Back in the day, in another life when it was the fashion to show the six foot tall Chi's (They were all crazy) the bad, baddies were necked up to a cotton mule we had on the place that was about the most vile tempered member of the equine family I have ever been around. A week of him and even the Full Throttle bred steers had some handle on them. If you have a mule use him! It makes meeks out of the outlaws.
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Milford
Posted 6/9/2014 22:37 (#3910764 - in reply to #3908671)
Subject: RE: Breaking 4h steer with burro.


Essig MN		First thing I do with our Dairy heifers is to halter them up and take them to the show barn and tie them up for a week, They get grain and hay twice a day and have drinking cups. After a week most have learned on there own what halter is and how to drink. i dont do any thing else to them for that week excpet maybe wash them if I get bored.
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