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Matt45214521
Posted 4/14/2014 09:14 (#3815027)
Subject: Case IH 340 Tractor Engine Fault


We have been having an engine fault code come up and the tractor derates in power majorly. The code is 3141 and it is telling us that our fuel set point is too low. We changed fuel filters, drained the tank, and changed the pump solenoid and we are still having problems. Any other suggestions would be great.

Edited by Matt45214521 4/14/2014 09:21
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scott nelsen
Posted 4/14/2014 10:18 (#3815136 - in reply to #3815027)
Subject: RE: Case IH 340 Tractor Engine Fault


Leeds, North Dakota
Matt, sure hope I'm wrong sounds like caps pump is failing, Scott.
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Jim Naden
Posted 4/14/2014 11:55 (#3815319 - in reply to #3815136)
Subject: RE: Case IH 340 Tractor Engine Fault



Southeastern Tipton County, Indiana

scott nelsen - 4/14/2014 11:18 Matt, sure hope I'm wrong sounds like caps pump is failing, Scott.

 

You're wrong Scott. No CAPS on a 340.

It's either a fuel supply issue or a wiring harness problem.

Lots of places for air ingress on the system that could lower supply pressure.

There have also been a few problems with the wiring harness on the left side of the engine chafing inside the protective sheath.

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scott nelsen
Posted 4/14/2014 13:24 (#3815504 - in reply to #3815319)
Subject: RE: Case IH 340 Tractor Engine Fault


Leeds, North Dakota
Thanks for correcting me Jim, Scott.
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Matt45214521
Posted 4/14/2014 14:17 (#3815558 - in reply to #3815319)
Subject: RE: Case IH 340 Tractor Engine Fault


Thanks for the responses. I will also add that we can not get it to act up while on the dyno, but if you run it in the field for an hour it will flash the fault again. Then you reset it and it may be fine for two hours or it might flash the fault again in 100 feet. There's no pattern what so ever.
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Jim Naden
Posted 4/14/2014 16:55 (#3815768 - in reply to #3815558)
Subject: RE: Case IH 340 Tractor Engine Fault



Southeastern Tipton County, Indiana

Matt45214521 - 4/14/2014 15:17 Thanks for the responses. I will also add that we can not get it to act up while on the dyno, but if you run it in the field for an hour it will flash the fault again. Then you reset it and it may be fine for two hours or it might flash the fault again in 100 feet. There's no pattern what so ever.

That makes it sound like there's a good probability of it being in the harness.

But then again, air ingress problems can come and go too in a similar sporadic fashion.

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hoggy76
Posted 4/14/2014 20:58 (#3816429 - in reply to #3815768)
Subject: RE: Case IH 340 Tractor Engine Fault


Lake Village AR
I had a 315 fault intermittently for low fuel pressure and the connector was loose in the rail pressure sensor. Unfortunately it is under the valve cover and a pain to get to.
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Matt45214521
Posted 4/14/2014 22:57 (#3816771 - in reply to #3816429)
Subject: RE: Case IH 340 Tractor Engine Fault


I believe we're going under the valve cover tomorrow, hopefully we find something there. Thanks!
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troym507
Posted 4/29/2015 18:17 (#4544279 - in reply to #3815558)
Subject: RE: Case IH 340 Tractor Engine Fault


matt what did you find on your 3141 code, i have a 340 doing the same thing, my fuel pressure drops to 38 psi and then faults. i checked all the wiring and changed filters for the third time. i cannot get it to act up on the dyno but take it to field and it acts up within a half hour. just currious what you found?
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Followme
Posted 4/29/2015 18:28 (#4544290 - in reply to #4544279)
Subject: RE: Case IH 340 Tractor Engine Fault


Litchfield, NY
Check the 90° elbow on the pre filter behind the fuel tank. I have seen the elbow on the in side of that filter have plastic shavings (from the tank) get in that elbow and cause restriction in the system. Under hard pulls the pump can't get enough fuel to keep the pressure up.

Edited by Followme 4/29/2015 18:33
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Jim Naden
Posted 4/29/2015 19:34 (#4544351 - in reply to #4544290)
Subject: RE: Case IH 340 Tractor Engine Fault



Southeastern Tipton County, Indiana

Followme - 4/29/2015 19:28 Check the 90° elbow on the pre filter behind the fuel tank. I have seen the elbow on the in side of that filter have plastic shavings (from the tank) get in that elbow and cause restriction in the system. Under hard pulls the pump can't get enough fuel to keep the pressure up.

Ditto. Had a new 315 with plastic chips in the tank last year.

This is a sample of the chips I flushed out of the tank.

 

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Matt45214521
Posted 5/5/2015 20:29 (#4553607 - in reply to #4544279)
Subject: RE: Case IH 340 Tractor Engine Fault


Replaced some injectors
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agger802
Posted 4/12/2015 19:53 (#4512964 - in reply to #3815027)
Subject: RE: Case IH 340 Tractor Engine Fault



NE MO & W IL
Did you ever figure out the issue? I have a 290 doing the same thing....
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shaunr
Posted 4/12/2015 22:03 (#4513459 - in reply to #4512964)
Subject: RE: Case IH 340 Tractor Engine Fault


Just put a new harness in a 340 last week... Wiring was rubbed through up by pump. New harness is improved design also. Same code was coming up intermittently
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agger802
Posted 4/13/2015 23:23 (#4515404 - in reply to #4513459)
Subject: RE: Case IH 340 Tractor Engine Fault



NE MO & W IL
Thank you for the reply!!!!

When the Case tech came I told him about the possible issue with the harness and sure enough, after opening the conduit, several areas of the wires had rubbed each other bare. Mainly up by the Y that sits on pump. But even the wires going to the crank shaft sensor were bare in spots. He said when the engine control module can't see crank shaft revolutions, it doesn't fire the injectors at the proper time. Anyhow, we taped up all the wires individually so they couldn't short and I have a properly working tractor again.

Thanks!
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redfarm
Posted 11/10/2019 09:51 (#7837691 - in reply to #4515404)
Subject: RE: Case IH 340 Tractor Engine Fault


N. IL
Had bad harness on a tractor and obstruction in the elbow ahead of the prefilter. Same symptoms.
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