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wayneNWAR
Posted 4/23/2013 20:19 (#3058177)
Subject: John deere 7000 planter clutch problem.


north west arkansas		My monitor was showing that the planter was stopping for a second and i think it was the clutch mechanism slipping. I am wondering if I could have possibly over greased it or if its just worn out. I only have about 25 acres of corn to finish so im wondering whats the easiest way to get it patched up so I can get finished up. I really couldn't see any simple way it comes apart. Am I on the right track thinking its in the clutch assembly? This is on a 8 row 30" if that makes any difference.
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farmer82
Posted 4/23/2013 20:31 (#3058220 - in reply to #3058177)
Subject: Re: John deere 7000 planter clutch problem.


S.E. Iowa		Yes and I dont think it is possible to over grease it. Mine did that a few years ago would leave 1 or 2 feet skips. I replaced everything. What dissapoints me is I bought Deere parts and they had PRC smeared on them, so I would recommend aftermarket before Deere
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Gambler
Posted 4/23/2013 20:34 (#3058227 - in reply to #3058177)
Subject: RE: John deere 7000 planter clutch problem.


neighbour had skips and found a roll pin had sheared but looked normal boths ends still visable ? its would drive then skip work again then skip

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Mark (EC,IN)
Posted 4/23/2013 20:35 (#3058235 - in reply to #3058177)
Subject: RE: John deere 7000 planter clutch problem.



Schlegel Farms, Hagerstown Indiana		You are probably thinking correct.

To repair the clutch the shaft must come out the end, and all worn parts need replaced. Not to bad a job but time consuming.

A quick fix that might work, is to get some split washers (I don't know the real name, but they have a hinge on one side and snap shut on the other). You can slip them over the shaft...as many as you can fit in there...behind the spring on the clutch and get more tension on the clutch. I finished about 25 acres one year with a clutch, that had started to slip, that way.

A permanent fix is a Jacbson (sp?) top drive like in the picture.



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Hay Hud Ohio
Posted 4/23/2013 21:03 (#3058360 - in reply to #3058235)
Subject: RE: John deere 7000 planter clutch problem.



SW Ohio		Jamison??
IF mine ever goes out it will get a Jamison or similar replacement.
My first 7000 did a bunch of thousands of six row acres and never went completely out.
X2 on checking for other problems like broken pins and bad dogs and jumping chains
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Mark (EC,IN)
Posted 4/24/2013 05:37 (#3058990 - in reply to #3058360)
Subject: RE: John deere 7000 planter clutch problem.



Schlegel Farms, Hagerstown Indiana		Jamison

Yep. It was late last night and I typed the name three or four times and ways..................nothing looked right to me.

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hf213
Posted 4/23/2013 20:36 (#3058245 - in reply to #3058177)
Subject: Re: John deere 7000 planter clutch problem.


You might have one of those "U" shaped drive dogs sheared or partially sheared, check the compression spring, or cotter pin and washer that pushes the clutch assembly together, ....how big is your planter ? If it stops for a split second then takes off again, you might have a chain jumping a sprocket or a tooth off of a sprocket.
when planter is in down or planting position, are the cams allowing the 2 ratcheting sprockets to come together ?, Another thing I have had, is the brgs that are on the Jackshaft ( the shaft that the wheels drive to the clutch) , you may have one starting to go out.
Dont over look the seed trans, or drillshaft brgs and chains either, If you are using fertilizer you could have a brg, chain, sprocket problem too, and the problem is transfering....to the seed drive, through the jackshaft drive.
You might be able to isolate, by taking the jackshaft to trans chains off and spinning the hex shafts with a wrench to see if you can hear or feel any binding....
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farmboy622
Posted 4/23/2013 21:02 (#3058354 - in reply to #3058245)
Subject: Re: John deere 7000 planter clutch problem.


south east il		I have had happen, what gambler has described, several times.
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Pvafarm
Posted 4/23/2013 21:17 (#3058410 - in reply to #3058177)
Subject: RE: John deere 7000 planter clutch problem.


Southeast WI		Likely what Mark said. Put a couple washers behind the spring for more tension. Figure the jamison drive will go on mine next year. Replaced the clutch twice in 15 years and not again. Easy enough job but hate drive chains coming off in no-till fields. Torch shaft out and replace all of it if clutch is indeed worn and skipping.
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pbutler
Posted 4/23/2013 21:35 (#3058494 - in reply to #3058177)
Subject: RE: John deere 7000 planter clutch problem.



Macon, IL		Not a fun job to take apart-but don't wait. Not fun to see gaps when corn comes up. Luckily mine went out in the last 15-20 acres one year. It got a Jamison drive that winter.
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Gerald J.
Posted 4/23/2013 21:38 (#3058503 - in reply to #3058177)
Subject: Re: John deere 7000 planter clutch problem.



Its been said the the clutch from a 7200 fits and solves the problem. Many times the interruption isn't long enough for the monitor to catch, but its visible in the field all summer.

Far as I can tell for the 6 row narrow and 4 row 7000s the 7200 and 7000 clutches use the same parts, but I've not had that trouble with my 7000 4 row. Its not a rare problem in the bigger 7000s the way I've heard it over several years.

Shimming may help. Another thing to check is the link to the clutch arm. The bolts at both ends are supposed to be double nutted with a nut on each side of the arm to get full travel on the clutch arm. If they are loose there might not be full engagement of the clutch.

Gerald J.
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wayneNWAR
Posted 4/23/2013 22:03 (#3058619 - in reply to #3058177)
Subject: RE: John deere 7000 planter clutch problem.


north west arkansas		How much would a jamison drive kit cost?
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pbutler
Posted 4/24/2013 06:53 (#3059134 - in reply to #3058619)
Subject: RE: John deere 7000 planter clutch problem.



Macon, IL		For a 6-row I am thinkiing was somehting like $1,200-but that may have been a few years ago.

When I switched from 6-12 row Bob Jamison just worked it out with new brackets and I kept the same wheel drive units-so moves nicely between planters.
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ayrporte
Posted 4/23/2013 22:26 (#3058692 - in reply to #3058177)
Subject: Re: John deere 7000 planter clutch problem.


Eastern Ont		You wouldn't happen to have the transmission chain too tight????
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3weeksbehind
Posted 4/24/2013 01:29 (#3058939 - in reply to #3058692)
Subject: Re: John deere 7000 planter clutch problem.


NESD		Have had that problem with the clutch. Everybody is on the right track. If not much left and don't want to pull it apart right now I have pulled the cotter pin and slid the clutch halves apart and used a grinder to reshape the worn cogs on the clutch halves. Not a permanent fix but could get you done.
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ramy
Posted 4/24/2013 01:32 (#3058941 - in reply to #3058177)
Subject: Re: John deere 7000 planter clutch problem.


3weeks...hadn't thought of that when the old man and I replaced it last spring. Worth a try to get a guy from having down time.
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03powerstroke
Posted 4/24/2013 06:43 (#3059107 - in reply to #3058177)
Subject: Re: John deere 7000 planter clutch problem.


I just put a jamison drive on. I have a one year old clutch from john deere if you are kooking for a newer one. 217-898-6138
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Tommy
Posted 4/24/2013 06:56 (#3059144 - in reply to #3058177)
Subject: RE: John deere 7000 planter clutch problem.


Iowa		New clutch every other year costs me 7 cents an acre. I have 5 or 6 "probably good" clutches on a shelf, not worth the risk
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pfortfarm
Posted 4/24/2013 09:30 (#3059500 - in reply to #3058177)
Subject: Re: John deere 7000 planter clutch problem.


north central kansas		Just bought a new Jamison for a 6 row 7000 and was 2 grand. Need to get it on for this spring's milo and maybe try some beans. Absolutely tired of replacing chains and my dogs are worn out.
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wayneNWAR
Posted 4/24/2013 11:01 (#3059683 - in reply to #3059500)
Subject: Re: John deere 7000 planter clutch problem.


north west arkansas		He quoted me 2 grand also, and just got to decide what to do. It looks like for 5 to 7 would replace everthing if I get it from shoup. Just kind of hate putting 2 grand into an old planter especially because the marker mechanism acts up some.
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