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Oakwood
Posted 4/16/2013 07:41 (#3039040)
Subject: moving grain bin question (interior bracing)


Manitoba
have to move some 4000 bu bins, they are not hopper bottom and are 19 ' wide. wondering what kind of interior bracing would be sufficient to tip these over onto a trailer. anyone have any pics of what they did to make sure they did not collapse during transport? would sure make it faster than taking them apart and rebuilding.

TIA
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School Of Hard Knock
Posted 4/16/2013 08:00 (#3039104 - in reply to #3039040)
Subject: RE: moving grain bin question (interior bracing)


just a tish NE of central ND
All we used on our 18 footers was a couple of 18 foot long wood 2x6 's to make a X across the bottom and bolted them together in the center.
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ccjersey
Posted 4/16/2013 08:02 (#3039109 - in reply to #3039040)
Subject: Re: moving grain bin question (interior bracing)


Faunsdale, AL
Will they be any shorter if you tip them? We cut some 7500 bu bins in half as well as taking out 3 rings worth of sheets to get the two pieces short enough to haul down the county road and under power lines.
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E718
Posted 4/16/2013 08:02 (#3039113 - in reply to #3039040)
Subject: Re: moving grain bin question (interior bracing)


Sac & Story county IA
Several 2x8's, arranged in an * pattern. 1/8 inch by 3 L shaped steel pieces screwed to the wood and bolt through bin sidewall on each end of wood piece. Used to be guys move "government bins by doing that. Bins are a wet noodle when not fastened to foundation.
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ccjersey
Posted 4/16/2013 13:24 (#3039708 - in reply to #3039113)
Subject: Re: moving grain bin question (interior bracing)


Faunsdale, AL
When we moved the 24' bins I mentioned above, we used two old power co boom trucks, one on each side, lifting with a spreader between the lift points so they didn't deform the bin any more than we could help it. We used 16' 6x6 timbers with a plate bolted to each end that had a notch for the chain so the timber would stay in place and we could go up a ladder and attach a bracket with half a dozen bolts to a vertical seam between two sheets and then hook the lifting chain in the bracket. The lifts ended up being spaced equally around the circumference of the bin. If we had had a crane with enough reach, we would have used a wheel in the center of the roof to lift , but we had the trucks for free, so we made that work.

We sat each section down on a flatbed trailer with 16' 6x6's bolted to each side and swung across the 8' trailer to hang out 8' on the opposite side. This put the two beams just a bit smaller than the diameter of the bin if you measured tip to tip. We bolted a short section of 4x4 or 6x6 cross ways underneath the ends of the outriggers with all-thread rod, so the bearing surface for the bottom of the bin sheet was the same height as the deck of the trailer. The short piece being cross ways spreads out the bearing surface so you don't bend the bottom of the upper section of the bin as badly. It helps to shim up the main beams where the middle of the beam bears on the edge of the trailer with something like a 2x board. This puts the free end of the outrigger higher than the deck of the trailer, but the beam will flex down as the weight comes on it and the bin will bear more evenly on the trailer deck and the outrigger beams.


The bottom section of each of our bins had full aeration floors, so we ran a couple pieces of 3x3 tubing across the floor, bolted brackets welded on the ends into the wall of the bin and then screwed through some tabs welded on the tubing and into the floor "planks" in 8 or 10 spots across the bin on each piece of tubing. This held the floor, sump and unloading auger tube in place during the move as well as helping to keep the bin round. The hardest thing we had to do was remove, load, haul, unload, and rearrange the cinder blocks that were used as floor supports. If you have to deal with that, make a picture or two to refer to! We were able to arrange them on the new foundation and set the bottom half of the bin down on them, but we should have had a diagram or picture to speed it up.

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ks8780
Posted 4/16/2013 08:10 (#3039131 - in reply to #3039040)
Subject: RE: moving grain bin question (interior bracing)



Jewell County KS
Here's what I did on a 9000 bu chief bin





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jrmac
Posted 4/16/2013 09:51 (#3039344 - in reply to #3039040)
Subject: Re: moving grain bin question (interior bracing)


NWMO
Use a aluminum pipe that will fit over the slide on handy man jack. Works just like a cargo brace in a van trailer. You will need two and x pattern find some bolts on the inside of bin to put holes in jack foot and pipe over.
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paul the original
Posted 4/16/2013 09:58 (#3039363 - in reply to #3039040)
Subject: Re: moving grain bin question (interior bracing)


southern MN
Ah, don't have the photos on this computer.....

Bin jacks, take 2 rings off the bottom, back a car trailer under with some beams/planks on it, set bin down, put a 4x4 across the fill hole, chain the 4x4 down -tight- to the trailer to clamp the bin down, and off you go.

Reassemble at the new location, only need to deal with 2 rings of bolts. No tipping or bracing needed.

Paul

Edited by paul the original 4/16/2013 10:00
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RBH
Posted 4/16/2013 10:39 (#3039426 - in reply to #3039363)
Subject: Re: moving grain bin question (interior bracing)


nw mb
This is a great idea, thanks!! Would love to see pics
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paul the original
Posted 4/17/2013 19:35 (#3042955 - in reply to #3039426)
Subject: Re: moving grain bin question (interior bracing)


southern MN
Found some.

Paul



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farmer3315
Posted 4/16/2013 21:15 (#3040784 - in reply to #3039363)
Subject: Re: moving grain bin question (interior bracing)


SE Mo
This ^^is what we have done also
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John In Ontario
Posted 4/16/2013 12:10 (#3039564 - in reply to #3039040)
Subject: Re: moving grain bin question (interior bracing)



Ripley, Ontario Canada
When bins like that are moved here (and I have 2 to move) we never tip them over, just get a crane and lift the top 2-3 rings and roof, set on wagon, and then lift the bottom rings and set on another wagon and go. If you can put some of the bottom angle on the top portion it helps prevent bending the sheets when it sits on the wagon.
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9520Deere
Posted 4/16/2013 13:32 (#3039718 - in reply to #3039040)
Subject: Re: moving grain bin question (interior bracing)



Alberta Canada
How far are you moving them? Have seen guys use a bin crane and off they go, usually its a short distance. If they have a wood floor can rent a bin moving trailer and tip them down.
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Oakwood
Posted 4/16/2013 14:21 (#3039800 - in reply to #3039040)
Subject: Re: moving grain bin question (interior bracing)


Manitoba
thanks for the replies / ideas. only moving them about 5 miles so we should be able to make some hybrid of the above ideas work.
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