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BRADLEYGRAY
Posted 2/5/2013 09:31 (#2876261)
Subject: feeding broken mouth cows


what the best way to feed older cows to put weight on them been buying a few that are 5 months bred just going to raise one calf on them and sell both but they are thin were they have been sucking a calf thanks for your time....
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Texas Papaw
Posted 2/5/2013 10:07 (#2876338 - in reply to #2876261)
Subject: RE: feeding broken mouth cows


Central Texas
Where are you located and what are your feed options?

Have seen folks graze corn stalks 60 days then move to wheat pasture for 60-90 days. These were thin cull cows purchased in the fall that were then sent to slaughter in the spring. Had good weight gains and was very profitable. Calving them out could be more profitable if you have an economical home for them.
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BRADLEYGRAY
Posted 2/5/2013 10:23 (#2876369 - in reply to #2876338)
Subject: Re: feeding broken mouth cows


i live in west tn i have been injecting them with wormer then giving them penicillin and la 200 we have a distillers plant within ten miles would a man be more profitible to pull calves off at say 300 to 350 and let cows get put weight on and cash them back in?
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BHS1972
Posted 2/5/2013 10:26 (#2876372 - in reply to #2876369)
Subject: Re: feeding broken mouth cows


South Central NE
I always heard that you can feed a calf cheaper than you can feed the cow to feed the calf.
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Texas Papaw
Posted 2/5/2013 11:00 (#2876426 - in reply to #2876369)
Subject: Re: feeding broken mouth cows


Central Texas
The distillers byproducts could be a good source of economical nutrition. Would suggest working with a nutritionist to find the most economical ration. If you can keep your daily feed cost to less than $2.00 while putting weight on a dry cow, that should be profitable. Obviously less would be even more profitable. In my area, calves less than 350# should increase $3.00/day in value, larger than 350# the daily increase in value can be less so there is a breaking point where it is time to sell. Depending on my feed supply/cost, I sell calves anywhere from 2 weeks to 5 months old, with 3-4 months being most common. It just depends on feed availability/ daily cost vs daily income. Also being able to maintain the cows weight while nursing the calf is important. If the cow is loosing weight it may be offsetting the value increase from the calf and you are selling your feed at a loss. Anytime I have a cow that is loosing weight while nursing her calf, I sell them at that time, regardless of their age/size. To keep them longer would be throwing good money after bad.

In my area, older 7-8 mo bred cows can usually be bought for the same price per pound as the shorter breds and they save me a few months feed to get the calf to selling size.

You mentioned using and injectable wormer along with pen and la 200. Would never give pen and la 200 together as there is some kind of reaction where one cancels the other. Would only give 1 or the other. For the old cows I buy, they only get cydectin pouron wormer, because it has no slaughter withdrawal time whereas all the injectibles and most other pourons have a slaughter withdrawal time. Rarely, have bought an old cow only to discover she is too old/weak/crippled/etc and needs to go to slaughter right away. If she has had antibiotics or most wormers there is the withdrawal period to contend with. Have not found that they routinely need any antibiotics.

Hope this is helpful.

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Markwright
Posted 2/5/2013 11:41 (#2876499 - in reply to #2876369)
Subject: Re: pull the calves at 300 lbs., they're


New Mexico
eating a bunch of hard feed then so it's an easy wean.

kinda depends on your timing for your fat cow marketing window.

SAVES a pile of feed to weaned feed calves seperate from the cows.

it takes 45 days ( on up to 60 days...young side brokens get fat alot quicker than total "wore outs" ) feed to make a decent mid yield cow after pulling her calf.
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90_pere
Posted 2/5/2013 10:55 (#2876416 - in reply to #2876338)
Subject: Re: feeding broken mouth cows


Sheridan, IL
Wean at 3 months. feed cow for additional month. Send cow to market.
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