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zztop

Posted 1/4/2013 21:46 (#2799408)
Subject: Any interest for new row crop cultivators

Mobile

Any interest out there for new row crop cultivators?
With all the weed resistance will row crop cultivators be back or is there a new product coming out like roundup did 15 years ago and wipe out the row crop cultivator market?
Any insight?

BenP

Posted 1/4/2013 21:55 (#2799437 - in reply to #2799408)
Subject: Re: Any interest for new row crop cultivators

Central Nebraska

In some places they never left. There's still a lot of ridge till in a few areas of Nebraska, including here. I really doubt the cultivator market will ever be wiped out. I've yet to see an iron resistant weed.

Clay-All-Over

Posted 1/4/2013 22:06 (#2799469 - in reply to #2799408)
Subject: RE: Any interest for new row crop cultivators

Eastern Ontario

We've been cultivating for the last 25 years. Parked the cultivator the last couple of years and sprayed everything. All NON GMO. Chemicals were hit and miss. I really didn't like the Chem bill. Will be going back to Cultivating this year. The savings are tremendous. It does take more time however.

RR over Cultivating
Cultivating over Conventional

brangus02

Posted 1/4/2013 22:29 (#2799527 - in reply to #2799408)
Subject: RE: Any interest for new row crop cultivators

South Texas

Agree with others - highly dependent on where you're from I guess. Cultivators are a major part of farming here. As far as new ones go, Othman leads the market bigtime around here since Deere quit making them.

johns_79

Posted 1/4/2013 23:46 (#2799665 - in reply to #2799408)
Subject: Re: Any interest for new row crop cultivators

Windom, MN

All cultivators are in the weeds here. We have had excellent weed control last year with Roundup mixed with other things. Use Callisto on corn and last year we sprayed Sonic on our beans pre-emerge, which worked so well we plan to do so again this year.

jd-tom

Posted 1/4/2013 23:51 (#2799669 - in reply to #2799408)
Subject: RE: Any interest for new row crop cultivators

SW Minnesota

I always cultivate some every year. Some years quite a bit, other years, not so much. When I switched from 36" to 30" rows in 2012, I advertised for and bought 2 cultivators right away. The 12-row rear mount I didn't use in 2012 but the 6-row front mount I used a little. Had a dirty field that had point rows so I like the front-mount better for that. I also have a fair amount of contour rows. I just wanted to make sure that I had some in the shed before they either got popular (& expensive) again or all disappeared to the scrap yard. Like someone else posted, there aren't any weeds resistant to cold steel. And in certain years, cultivating and opening up the ground is a good thing.

bharzman

Posted 1/5/2013 07:05 (#2799830 - in reply to #2799669)
Subject: Re: Any interest for new row crop cultivators

North Central Kansas

We use ours only on irrigated ground, which is flood irrigation
weeds...crop rotation is our best buddy.

Jacob Bolson

Posted 1/5/2013 07:48 (#2799898 - in reply to #2799669)
Subject: RE: Any interest for new row crop cultivators

Iowa

jd-tom - 1/4/2013 23:51

I always cultivate some every year. Some years quite a bit, other years, not so much. When I switched from 36" to 30" rows in 2012, I advertised for and bought 2 cultivators right away. The 12-row rear mount I didn't use in 2012 but the 6-row front mount I used a little. Had a dirty field that had point rows so I like the front-mount better for that. I also have a fair amount of contour rows. I just wanted to make sure that I had some in the shed before they either got popular (& expensive) again or all disappeared to the scrap yard. Like someone else posted, there aren't any weeds resistant to cold steel. And in certain years, cultivating and opening up the ground is a good thing.

Do you still have your wide row cultivators?

jd-tom

Posted 1/5/2013 11:08 (#2800345 - in reply to #2799898)
Subject: RE: Any interest for new row crop cultivators

SW Minnesota

Yes I do - someone else already posted the Craigslist link to them below in this thread. These are the 2 we used until last year. Contact info is in the ad or my email is in my profile here.

Sagefarmer

Posted 1/5/2013 07:27 (#2799871 - in reply to #2799408)
Subject: Re: Any interest for new row crop cultivators

North East NC

We still run 3) 8 row sets now . We don't use them in cotton of beans. I am always looking for 8 row rolling cultivators

Jacob Bolson

Posted 1/5/2013 07:46 (#2799892 - in reply to #2799408)
Subject: Re: Any interest for new row crop cultivators

Iowa

Orthman and Hiniker are actively marketing their cultivators again thanks to herbicide-resistant weeds. They never quit making them but did not spend much marketing $$$; not anymore.

jddealer

Posted 1/5/2013 07:50 (#2799900 - in reply to #2799892)
Subject: Re: Any interest for new row crop cultivators

I have been looking high and low for 8 row 30" front mounted cultivators with little luck

Jacob Bolson

Posted 1/5/2013 07:53 (#2799910 - in reply to #2799900)
Subject: Re: Any interest for new row crop cultivators

Iowa

jddealer - 1/5/2013 07:50

I have been looking high and low for 8 row 30" front mounted cultivators with little luck

Good luck. We have multiple front-mount cultivators due to a portion of the farm being organic and they are getting hard to find. Keep your eye on Craigslist as well as the classifieds in the MOSES newsletter.
http://www.mosesorganic.org/
Decent Lilliston units are becoming quite hard to find as well.

iseedit

Posted 1/5/2013 07:57 (#2799921 - in reply to #2799910)
Subject: Re: Craigslist ~

central - east central Minnesota -

Jacob Bolson - 1/5/2013 06:53

jddealer - 1/5/2013 07:50 I have been looking high and low for 8 row 30" front mounted cultivators with little luck

Good luck. We have multiple front-mount cultivators due to a portion of the farm being organic and they are getting hard to find. Keep your eye on Craigslist as well as the classifieds in the MOSES newsletter. http://www.mosesorganic.org/ Decent Lilliston units are becoming quite hard to find as well.

Here are Two listed on craigslist ~
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/search/?areaID=19&subAreaID=&query=front+mount+cultivator&catAbb=sss

I've been thinking of a way to make them work with a FWA tractor . . . . .

Edited by iseedit 1/5/2013 07:57

Cardinal_Farms

Posted 1/5/2013 08:01 (#2799927 - in reply to #2799408)
Subject: RE: Any interest for new row crop cultivators

Central Iowa

I just had a visit with a sales manager at Henke Machine Yesterday. He said sales of Buffalo cultivators have increased over last year.

I have never quit cultivating, but have "slacked off" somewhat over the last few years. If the weather cooperates I intend to go back to cultivating everthing twice. Cultivation has proven to a valuable tool in dealing with waterhemp and other resistant weeds.

I'm also taking on some organic beans this year in a field where a lot of deposits have been made to the "weed bank". My Buffalo will need to spend some time "grazing" there.

Edited by Cardinal_Farms 1/5/2013 08:33

ekeller2

Posted 1/5/2013 08:30 (#2799990 - in reply to #2799408)
Subject: Re: Any interest for new row crop cultivators

So. IL

We still have a folding CaseIH 12 row 30 inch here, keep it arround for milo, if we ever have that crazy idea again.

PLO NW MN

Posted 1/5/2013 09:34 (#2800154 - in reply to #2799408)
Subject: RE: Any interest for new row crop cultivators

NW MN

In the RRV seems alloway is still popular choice. I don't see it listed but i believe they make a 36x22" model.

http://allowaystandard.com/cultivators/index.php

Rockman

Posted 1/5/2013 10:00 (#2800214 - in reply to #2799408)
Subject: RE: Any interest for new row crop cultivators (pics)

Finally, a cultivating post. The BTOs around here told me they can't afford to cultivate. I told them I can't afford not to. The high-speed, single-shank cultivators with tracking (planter has stingers) work a lot better than the old ones.

Of course, you have to watch for root pruning. Don't just get in the cab and go.

I like my 856 JD. It's a 16-22. Might be looking for a late model single-shank 24-22 (856, Elmers, Alloway or Wilrich).

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jd-tom

Posted 1/5/2013 11:14 (#2800357 - in reply to #2800214)
Subject: RE: Any interest for new row crop cultivators (pics)

SW Minnesota

We would have fewer BTO's if everyone still had to cultivate. Seems like the advent of RR crops just accelerated everyone trying to expand.

"Now that we have all this extra time on our hands since we don't have to cultivate, we can farm a lot more acres......"

Cardinal_Farms

Posted 1/5/2013 11:42 (#2800414 - in reply to #2800357)
Subject: RE: Any interest for new row crop cultivators (pics)

Central Iowa

JD and CIH needs to design a row crop cultivator that the BTOs will buy! ha ha

Edited by Cardinal_Farms 1/5/2013 11:43

redline

Posted 1/5/2013 17:23 (#2801090 - in reply to #2800414)
Subject: RE: Any interest for new row crop cultivators (pics)

Central Iowa

Would a rotating beacon help get them excited? It could be added to current designs easily enough.

milofarmer1

Posted 1/5/2013 10:40 (#2800292 - in reply to #2799408)
Subject: Re: Any interest for new row crop cultivators

Texas/New Mexico Stateline

Not that many years ago cultivators would bring scrap price at auctions. Last year at a consignment sale, they were bringing really really good money. I was shocked at the demand.

indeed

Posted 1/5/2013 10:57 (#2800327 - in reply to #2799408)
Subject: Re: Any interest for new row crop cultivators

Cultivating is not the answer here. It will just throw the pigweed seed into the row. Then it is hoe handle time.

We still use hooded sprayers with some pretty heavy doses of chemicals hot enough to melt the hoses. Which, still doesn't work sometimes.

Patches

Posted 1/5/2013 13:09 (#2800614 - in reply to #2800327)
Subject: Re: Any interest for new row crop cultivators

hey
Rockman- is that a 2294 case? mine needs more weight to handle a 12-30 c-shank. how fast do you run on the narrow rows?

Rockman

Posted 1/5/2013 16:14 (#2800949 - in reply to #2800614)
Subject: Re: Any interest for new row crop cultivators

2294 is a '87 model, long wheel base, heavy front ax, large rear ax, 10-bolt hub duals, decent tractor. The 856 is a single-shank, 30-ft. 16-22. I stuck 4 weights in addition to the rocks in the rock box. Speed cultivating shouldn't matter when the cultivator is down? I suppose 4-5 mph usually. It gets a little light power shifting on the road. No troubles in the field.

tim4870

Posted 1/5/2013 14:19 (#2800733 - in reply to #2799408)
Subject: Re: Any interest for new row crop cultivators

Southern MN

I ridge till cultivate my corn with a 6 row Hiniker 5000. Would like to find a Hiniker 6000 12 row but there's nothing in this area to even look at. Cultivating is the only tillage I do. I like to plant on top of the ridges.

Patches

Posted 1/6/2013 09:20 (#2802355 - in reply to #2800733)
Subject: Re: Any interest for new row crop cultivators

Thanks for the reply. I think I can add a few more weights to the front and get along fine. You are right about speed, just was curious about roading. Thanks again.

bpreuss

Posted 1/6/2013 09:49 (#2802427 - in reply to #2799408)
Subject: Re: Any interest for new row crop cultivators

we still cultivate a little every year. usually its in the beets but every so often we will cultivate a soybean field if they are just emerging and its windy.

That being said we have a 24R22 alloway for sale if anyone is interested.

bnobles

Posted 1/6/2013 13:05 (#2802882 - in reply to #2799408)
Subject: Re: Any interest for new row crop cultivators

Qulin, MO

We haven't cultivated in years, but we are going back to it this year. Switching back to rows for our soybeans and using the cultivator to fight the resistant weeds. Around here, guys have been putting down Treflan, then incorporating it with their bedders. That keeps the actual rows clean and then they can clean up between the rows with hoods and cultivators.

zztop

Posted 1/6/2013 15:26 (#2803219 - in reply to #2802882)
Subject: Re: Any interest for new row crop cultivators

Mobile

Orthman offers widest selection of row crop cultivators

northernequipment

Posted 5/23/2013 22:07 (#3114563 - in reply to #2799408)
Subject: Re: Any interest for new row crop cultivators

Wasaga Beach, On

Steketee offers some of the best performing row crop and intra-row cultivators available -http://www.northernequipment.ca/#!steketee-weed-systems/c1552

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