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sdt

Posted 10/20/2012 18:41 (#2651723)
Subject: Bern and others Ford 8830 vs 8730

western Ky

I looking for the hp of the 8830 but found a 8730 can I turn up the pump on the 8730 and add the extra hp or would I run into overheating problems ,will be pulling a KINZE 12/24 split row planter ? thanks!!!!!

Gromit

Posted 10/20/2012 18:55 (#2651741 - in reply to #2651723)
Subject: RE: Bern and others Ford 8830 vs 8730

Lac qui Parle County Minnesota

Enough differences between the two that I wouldn't do it. I think you would be asking for trouble.

roo

Posted 10/20/2012 19:20 (#2651763 - in reply to #2651741)
Subject: RE: Bern and others Ford 8830 vs 8730

Cullom, Illinois

The 8830 has an intercooler that helps withheating and horsepower. You will have heating problems if you turn it up. But an 8730 should be able to pull that planter OK.

sdt

Posted 10/20/2012 19:34 (#2651789 - in reply to #2651763)
Subject: Re: Bern and others Ford 8830 vs 8730

western Ky

I thought both ran the intercooler

Bern

Posted 10/20/2012 19:35 (#2651793 - in reply to #2651789)
Subject: Re: Bern and others Ford 8830 vs 8730

Mount Vernon, WA

You are likely thinking of the Genesis series, specifically, the 8870 and 8970.

Bern

Posted 10/20/2012 19:34 (#2651790 - in reply to #2651723)
Subject: RE: Bern and others Ford 8830 vs 8730

Mount Vernon, WA

Roo is correct. Turning up an 87 to make it an 88 would invite heating problems, along with drivetrain issues down the road as well. The 8830 has heavier final drives.

I do believe the 8830 has a larger fan and fan clutch, and also a heavier PTO clutch. The 88 has a full-flow engine oil cooler, the 87 does not. And, of course, the most obvious is the missing intercooler. This makes a huge difference all by itself. I would NOT do it.

sdt

Posted 10/20/2012 19:36 (#2651797 - in reply to #2651790)
Subject: Re: Bern and others Ford 8830 vs 8730

western Ky

would I be better off with the 8830

mmaddox

Posted 10/20/2012 20:01 (#2651836 - in reply to #2651797)
Subject: Re: Bern and others Ford 8830 vs 8730

While I think the 8730 will do what tasks you mentioned, if you truly need the hp, the 8830 would be the better choice. Without knowing what is you price range and availabilty, I would suggest you consider an 8870.

Bern

Posted 10/20/2012 21:13 (#2651997 - in reply to #2651797)
Subject: Re: Bern and others Ford 8830 vs 8730

Mount Vernon, WA

Yes, if you plan to coax 170+ HP out of it all day long.

sdt

Posted 10/20/2012 22:26 (#2652150 - in reply to #2651997)
Subject: Re: Bern and others Ford 8830 vs 8730

western Ky

I am currently using a rebuilt 9600 Ford with radial duels and weighted with the injection pump built with 9.5mm barrels and fuel turned up a little. My main use will be pulling the KINZE .I have ran out of traction more than power ,but have ran out of power if ground is just right where it bites good. I have some nice long hills. I just want to be sure I don't run out of power, witch one would make a better planter tractor

illinidirtfarmer

Posted 10/21/2012 11:52 (#2652824 - in reply to #2651723)
Subject: Re: Bern and others Ford 8830 vs 8730

WC IL

I have a friend who pulled a 12/23 Kinze for years with a 2WD 8730 and got along just fine. Don't know if it makes a difference for you, but the 8730 will also have 540 and 100 PTO, the 8830 1000 only. If the 9600 pulls it, I'm sure the 8730 will. Plus you'll love the powershift, assuming it has one.

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