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Erik in SD
Posted 10/18/2007 16:33 (#222214)
Subject: JD (UFT) 500 grain cart


East Central SD		I'm looking for a cheap grain cart, fairly small, something I can run with about 125hp, and a local dealer has a JD 500. Looks to be in fair condition, auger tube dinged up a little from bumping truck boxes, etc. With all of the wet weather, carts are a hot commodity right now- the only small cart anywhere around. Anything to look out for? Good source for parts- I remember someone posting a location for parts for about half of JD prices. What do you think is a reasonable price?
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pbutler
Posted 10/18/2007 17:09 (#222220 - in reply to #222214)
Subject: RE: JD (UFT) 500 grain cart



Macon, IL		Around here 2,000-4,000 depending on condition.
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trippjn
Posted 10/18/2007 17:56 (#222259 - in reply to #222220)
Subject: RE: JD (UFT) 500 grain cart


North Central Oklahoma		If it is a John Deere 500 with the auger coming out the side, it was made by United Farm Tools at Tonkawa, OK. The Tonkawa facility has been closed for probably 15 years.

If it has set out, be sure to check the gear box. They are a magnet for water. The seal for the shaft on the auger doesn't do a good job of keeping water out. I would like to change our seal, but it looks to be a rather lengthy job when all I have to do is check oil twice a harvest, and store it inside the shed rest of the year. Our tires are rather narrow and cause more compaction than I like. Other than that they are a good grain cart. One good thing is that it is easy to put a pump on and run by hydraulics instead of PTO. I wish that could be done to a Kinze.

Good Luck.

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farmertim
Posted 10/18/2007 18:29 (#222285 - in reply to #222259)
Subject: Re: JD (UFT) 500 grain cart



New Madrid, MO		Ditto on the gear box !!!!! Seal is a weak point !!! Check often !!! They're not too hard to rebuild !!!
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DevinF
Posted 10/18/2007 18:38 (#222291 - in reply to #222259)
Subject: RE: JD (UFT) 500 grain cart



Nwmo		I would recommend you stay away from the JD carts made by UFT. We have 2 of them and they are junk. The shear bolts go out a lot if you don't baby it when you start them up. You have to have a swing away auger to clean them out so you can put a new bolt in it.
The older style carts had weak axles, They had bolt on extensions for some reason. We have broken both sides of ours. We would be screwed if we didn't have a grain vac, or if we had done it away from home.

UFT didn't know how to make the augers seat properly when unfolded in the unloading position so a significant amount of corn/grain will leak out if you don't put foam tape in the crack between them or clamp it down with vise grips.

Slow unloading, side auger instead of corner auger, weak axles. JD doesn't really offer many parts for them, usually they tell us its a obsolete part and they can't get it. I really would hate to see you buy one because you will most likely be unhappy with it. Ez trail I think, makes pretty much the same cart and you can buy new ones for $10,000.

Hope this helps,
Devin
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Virginia Veg.
Posted 10/18/2007 19:45 (#222322 - in reply to #222214)
Subject: Is it like this??



Eastern VA. No such thing as too many Magnums.		Small cart for sale locally. I don't know if it's one that was built for deere or if someone just painted it green. Does it look like the below photo? Someone says its a Wetmore. I just want something small and cheap too. Thought this might work. Anyone have opinions on this dinosaur?



(DeereCart.jpg)



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tommyw-5088
Posted 10/18/2007 20:44 (#222371 - in reply to #222322)
Subject: Re: JD (UFT) 500 grain cart


Texas		either wetmore or caldwell .those are decent ,hold about 400 bu . wheat .we handle them here with a 100 h.p. 2wd tractor . the tires are an odball ,but you can get used airplane tires . that is a drawback and the augre is too short to dump in the center of high sided trucks ,that cable fold is a #$%^& never seen one work right .

Edited by tommyw-5088 10/18/2007 21:48
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nwiafmr
Posted 10/18/2007 21:29 (#222412 - in reply to #222322)
Subject: RE: Is it like this??


Woodbury county		Your picture is a Wetmore made somewhere in Oklahoma. They made JD 1210/1210A for John Deere for a while. A decent enough grain cart. Wetmore painted them orange and green for John Deere.

Edited by nwiafmr 10/18/2007 21:30
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trippjn
Posted 10/18/2007 22:12 (#222487 - in reply to #222322)
Subject: RE: Is it like this??


North Central Oklahoma		That was an earlier model that is called the 400. They were not very good.
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Dave Cen.Ia
Posted 10/19/2007 00:10 (#222598 - in reply to #222487)
Subject: RE: Is it like this??



Nevada, Iowa		I've got a 400 and it has some distinct differences to the one pictured. It is very similar too. I have no doubt that it was a UFT product but I don't know that it is a 400. UFT also made the JD 1210 and 1210a. I don't know what they looked like.

I have had no gear box problems with my 400. It is slow unloading by todays standards. They used a 3 piece split rim system for the tires that was very problematic. Otherwise a good older cart.
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tommyw-5088
Posted 10/19/2007 05:41 (#222659 - in reply to #222598)
Subject: Re: JD (UFT) 500 grain cart


Texas		we have not had any gearbox problems either ,but we dont run high moisture crops through them. short auger is the worst part.-imo.
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SEK Farmer
Posted 10/18/2007 21:42 (#222436 - in reply to #222214)
Subject: RE: JD (UFT) 500 grain cart


Southeastern Kansas		The picture looks like an orange colored Wetmore then JD painted it green. Ours had a hyd fold on the auger which we folded most of the time because that was a weak point. We used the devil out of it with 4-wheel drive tractors, the folding auger finally broke away at the joint which led to its demise. If you are reasonably sensible with speed and mud fighting and willing to deal with a sheared bolt once in a while, and always emptying the auger before moveing back to the combine, you can get along with it. It is a light built machine in places but the answer is slow and easy.
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trippjn
Posted 10/18/2007 22:17 (#222493 - in reply to #222436)
Subject: RE:UFT and Wetmore


North Central Oklahoma		A UFT and Wetmore are the same cart. Wetmore was the company named after Albert Wetmore. It was located in Tonkawa, Oklahoma. I don't know when, but at some point the company was purchased by UFT.
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Von WC Ohio
Posted 10/19/2007 09:02 (#222723 - in reply to #222214)
Subject: RE: JD (UFT) 500 grain cart



Here are a couple pics of what was described as a JD 500 cart from the internet.

The picture below looked to be a 1210 or 1210A if in fact it was Deere's and not just painted green.

Deere also had another cart that had tandem axles. I'm thinking it was a 400 model ?





(JD 500 grain cart 1.jpg)



(JD 500 grain cart 2.jpg)



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hoss05
Posted 10/19/2007 11:52 (#222838 - in reply to #222723)
Subject: RE: JD (UFT) 500 grain cart


if it was me, i'd look at brent 420's... to me!... they appear to be built much heavier than the ones showed on here.........
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Cliff SEIA
Posted 10/19/2007 12:17 (#222844 - in reply to #222214)
Subject: RE: JD (UFT) 500 grain cart


Two years ago dad bought a cheap ($2,800) JD 500 to have as a second cart for loading semi's.  For the price it gets the job done but for more than ocassional use I'd look for a Brent 420 or an EZ Trail.  Our 500 had extensions added so it holds 650 bushels and the rims were widened out so it has 28L26 tires on it.  The good points about the 500 as I see them are it was cheap, it holds grain and it unloads grain but it has very poor weight balance compared to the Brent 472 we used to have and it unloads painfully slow but our auger flighting is pretty thin which is probably making that problem worse than it needs to be.  I guess my opinion is that the 500 was not a very well designed cart compared to what's been on the market for the past 10-15 years for not too much more money.
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