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Need to replace Flying Dutchman bottom unloading silo unloader (pics)
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Dave9110
Posted 4/3/2012 21:41 (#2319832)
Subject: Need to replace Flying Dutchman bottom unloading silo unloader (pics)



north-central Indiana west of Fulton		Bought former dairy farm close by 19 years ago to put heifers mainly,but also had pole buildings a home ,2 silos ,and a couple bins. Lots of repairs were required including updating a poured cement sealed silo with a new 5"pole flail bottom unloader. About 18 fills or less later the pole is losing attachment points and we figured needs replacement. Last week dug out about a 6' circle around pole (under filled last time so as to be empty before first cutting hay) . Today pulled pole off shaft & decided we will save shaft and 4"& 5" bearings and put new pole and chains on it. Always dread repairing chains and hammers on these unloaders but I guess thats just the way it is. Didn't know if many of these type unloaders are being used .

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proud2Bafarmer
Posted 4/3/2012 23:14 (#2320145 - in reply to #2319832)
Subject: RE: Need to replace Flying Dutchman bottom unloading silo unloader (pics)


Baldwin City, KS		How exactly do those things work? Is that the type that they have in Mcpherson HMC silos that have a roller mill in the basement?
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Dave9110
Posted 4/4/2012 06:38 (#2320358 - in reply to #2320145)
Subject: RE: Need to replace Flying Dutchman bottom unloading silo unloader (pics)



north-central Indiana west of Fulton		This unloader is powered by a 10 hp motor (hung under cement floor 6' above ground level) which turns the pole. Attached to pole are 1/2 and 3/8"hi-tensile log chains with hammers or cutters on them to form an upside down christmas tree shape or funnel . Silage is suppose to fall out hole at side of pole. Another larger (28" ?) hole is on other side of pole is to be opened if service is needed( and it often is). Very difficult to poke haylage through that hole to get opened up enough to get to cavity formed by chains of unloader. Then have to force air inside cavity for some time so as to have air to breath while inside(not fun). Chains and bolts tend to wear rapidly and replacement is required.
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second string cattle
Posted 4/3/2012 23:49 (#2320222 - in reply to #2319832)
Subject: Re: Need to replace Flying Dutchman bottom unloading silo unloader (pics)


have 2 were i work, took one home, makes a very nice and sturdy post to hang a long gate from.
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second string cattle
Posted 4/3/2012 23:51 (#2320224 - in reply to #2319832)
Subject: Re: Need to replace Flying Dutchman bottom unloading silo unloader (pics)


Keep the bearings well greased is what i keep getting told every other week!
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garvo
Posted 4/4/2012 07:15 (#2320372 - in reply to #2319832)
Subject: Re: Need to replace Flying Dutchman bottom unloading silo unloader (pics)


western iowa,by Denison		looks like its time for a top unload!
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Dave9110
Posted 4/4/2012 10:09 (#2320670 - in reply to #2320372)
Subject: Re: Need to replace Flying Dutchman bottom unloading silo unloader (pics)



north-central Indiana west of Fulton		Thought of that Garvo,when we put new unloader in when we first repaired in 1993,but they were talking about a James Way big jim and that required cutting door holes every 8 feet for access,and other things.Wasn't crazy about how in worked either. Would rather have another Hanson like our other silos but do not think that is possible or at least cost prohibitive, with the need for doors & a shoot.
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NoTill1825
Posted 4/4/2012 07:45 (#2320416 - in reply to #2319832)
Subject: RE: Need to replace Flying Dutchman bottom unloading silo unloader (pics)


NC Indiana		One just north of Dad's, been sitting full for some time now.
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Jay NE Ohio
Posted 4/4/2012 08:12 (#2320455 - in reply to #2319832)
Subject: RE: Need to replace Flying Dutchman bottom unloading silo unloader (pics)



northeastern Ohio

Dave,
I have two of those silos:  18x60 and a 20x80.  The small one was put up in 1976 and is now on its second pole.  The big one was put up in 1986 and is still on the original pole.  For the most part, we just weld new attachment points onto the pole and change the chains every few years.  Replace the bolts at the bottom of the pole when replacing the chains.  Keep the bearings greased (we had to replace one).  The flying dutchman is MUCH cheaper to maintain than the Harvestores.  They work great for corn silage, but tend to be too slow for haylage unless you cut really short.

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Borgman05
Posted 4/4/2012 08:16 (#2320464 - in reply to #2320455)
Subject: Re: Need to replace Flying Dutchman bottom unloading silo unloader (pics)


South Central, Iowa		Neighbors have a Star silo that has a similar unload. They cuss it a lot. Had the repair man out one year to work on it, it was still half full, up in the air. He said he'd been trapped in one, luckily the farmer was there and dug him out.
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Dave9110
Posted 4/4/2012 08:30 (#2320492 - in reply to #2320455)
Subject: RE: Need to replace Flying Dutchman bottom unloading silo unloader (pics)



north-central Indiana west of Fulton		Jay,sounds like you are quite familar with these unloaders and know what it requires to make them work . Thanks for the input.
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second string cattle
Posted 4/4/2012 10:10 (#2320672 - in reply to #2319832)
Subject: RE: Flying Dutchman gate post! (pics)


Stupid phone wont let me upload the pic.

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proud2Bafarmer
Posted 4/4/2012 10:58 (#2320728 - in reply to #2320672)
Subject: Sounds dangerous.


Baldwin City, KS		Are you basically sitting under a silo full of ensilage if you have to go in and work on the thing?
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second string cattle
Posted 4/4/2012 11:02 (#2320734 - in reply to #2320728)
Subject: Re: Need to replace Flying Dutchman bottom unloading silo unloader (pics)


Yes. Plus you have to dig thru 2 to 3 feet before you can get to the cavity. Really fun when you spend a hour digging in haylage to spen 5 min untangling chains.
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Dave9110
Posted 4/4/2012 11:12 (#2320752 - in reply to #2320728)
Subject: RE: Sounds dangerous.



north-central Indiana west of Fulton		That is correct,Luke, it maintains a dome over the top of the pole,but it is certainly an uneasy feeling you get while inside.We put in hay which I would think is less likely to fall on your head. If a chain and hammer comes off or chains tangle it can reduce cavity size where it is hard to have space to enter or work.
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behog
Posted 4/4/2012 11:44 (#2320781 - in reply to #2320752)
Subject: Re: Need to replace Flying Dutchman bottom unloading silo unloader (pics)


frederick, MD		WOW. I have never seen nor heard of an unloader like that. Does it even work? How fast does it unload? Does it leave alot left in the silo?
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Dave9110
Posted 4/4/2012 12:00 (#2320797 - in reply to #2320781)
Subject: Re: Need to replace Flying Dutchman bottom unloading silo unloader (pics)



north-central Indiana west of Fulton		Yes it works but you really can not control flow ,it can come too fast or too slow depending on how the silage is settling. Over loading conveyers is a problem if not large capacity. If you fill when it was empty you must run unloader often to keep from sticking pole (learned that the hard way and I was aware of the need also).
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second string cattle
Posted 4/4/2012 12:16 (#2320812 - in reply to #2320797)
Subject: Re:Gate post (pics)


on the computer now so try again.



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upstate ny
Posted 4/4/2012 19:29 (#2321288 - in reply to #2320812)
Subject: Re: Need to replace Flying Dutchman bottom unloading silo unloader (pics)


Now thats why i like this website.. Like Behog said, I have never seen such an unloader or even heard of such a thing. Sure makes me feel alot better about chipping frozen silage of the side of the top unloads than crawling into that dungen!! Thanks for the pics, In this case a pic is worth a thousand words..
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GuernseyGuy
Posted 4/4/2012 19:53 (#2321313 - in reply to #2319832)
Subject: Re: Need to replace Flying Dutchman bottom unloading silo unloader (pics)


WCOH		Neighbor had one, it is now a top unload. Blows my mind how an engineer could think something like that was a good idea. Wonder how they would like to crawl in and work on it?
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second string cattle
Posted 4/5/2012 00:20 (#2321982 - in reply to #2321313)
Subject: Re: Need to replace Flying Dutchman bottom unloading silo unloader (pics)


they work, but if you feed to much out in a day like boss sometimes does, haylage quits coming out, have to wait till the next day for some to fall down and the silage to slide down the silo. Sure beats the silo unloader here at home.......
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