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rowcropper

Posted 1/19/2012 17:31 (#2172213)
Subject: help ID an old JD disc from pics

I am just curious to know when this was produced, what model it is, and if it has much value? Is it right for a 2 cyl JD 630 tractor? I am not going to scrap it.

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Badger

Posted 1/19/2012 17:34 (#2172223 - in reply to #2172213)
Subject: Re: help ID an old JD disc from pics

Huntley Montana

It's a old 1 way disk used in the 40-50s. Model I wouldn't know, but yesterdays tractors might

tractor5488

Posted 1/20/2012 02:09 (#2173425 - in reply to #2172223)
Subject: Re: help ID an old JD disc from pics

Stamford Texas

I can,t give you a model number but I ran an 8 disc like it many a round.

rkd1119

Posted 1/19/2012 17:45 (#2172241 - in reply to #2172213)
Subject: Re: help ID an old JD disc from pics

If you have an accomadating parts man at your local JD dealer, he can do it this way.

Take down EVERY casting number you can find on the disc (typically on any cast iron part such as tongue pieces, spools, brg assy's etc.). He can enter each number into a "Where Used" column in his parts program, and get a list of each machine that used that particular part. By the time you go through all (or most) of the numbers you will have only 1 or 2 models that used all the numbers in question. If its still more than one, you can look at the IdView (picture) of each to confirm which one it is.

This is relatively time consuming, so catch them at a good time, and maybe buy them a drink for the trouble.

I can do this for you (if you're not in a hurry). Email is in profile.

tkoppel

Posted 1/19/2012 18:07 (#2172279 - in reply to #2172241)
Subject: Re: help ID an old JD disc from pics

Sanilac Co. Michigan

From what I see, it's a JD Disk Plow! A neighbor had one and yes, it would fit in well with your 620. You strike out lands with it like you would with a mold board plow. Should work real well on light ground and was great in corn stubble because it would cover and not plug regardless of which direction the corn was picked. Can't tell you the model number, but if you go to your JD dealer they should be able to match the model from the old parts books. From what I remember you needed a 3 plow tractor to pull it, like a JD A or Farmall M. You still find them around here now and again while cleaning out old fence rows and wood lots, so they must have had some degree of popularity. Same neighbor used a W30 McCormack to haul his!

Virginia Veg.

Posted 1/19/2012 18:14 (#2172290 - in reply to #2172213)
Subject: Surflex disk tiller

Eastern VA. No such thing as too many Magnums.

I remember seeing them in a Deere book I had. They were called Surflex disk tillers. They had a 990, 1000, 1100, and 1200 series Surflex, maybe it's one of those..... Or the precursor to it..

Virginia Veg.

Posted 1/19/2012 18:27 (#2172318 - in reply to #2172290)
Subject: Maybe this would help..

Eastern VA. No such thing as too many Magnums.

Not sure it's the same thing. But it looks similar. http://jdpc.deere.com/jdpc/pdfs/PC0212.PDF

jssj

Posted 1/19/2012 18:51 (#2172377 - in reply to #2172318)
Subject: Re: help ID an old JD disc from pics

NW ND

It is not a surflex. It is a pre 1950 one way.

jdflyer

Posted 1/19/2012 20:00 (#2172582 - in reply to #2172377)
Subject: Re: help ID an old JD disc from pics

Centralia, MO

The surflex pictured in the parts catalog has a tubular frame. The original has frame made from flat bar iron which is reminiscent of the John Deere plows of the 1960's. Can anyone tell what the front end weight that is wired on the front of the frame would have fit?

Edited by jdflyer 1/19/2012 20:02

Virginia Veg.

Posted 1/19/2012 20:13 (#2172627 - in reply to #2172582)
Subject: Re: help ID an old JD disc from pics

Eastern VA. No such thing as too many Magnums.

I guess maybe it's not. It just looked similar I thought it was worth a shot. I know a farmer that had a disk plow around here, but the blades were a LOT bigger.

Red/Green

Posted 1/19/2012 19:55 (#2172565 - in reply to #2172213)
Subject: Re: help ID an old JD disc from pics

Elizabethtown,KY

It's a disk plow, I always heard they were good for plowing new ground that had small saplings and sprouts.

Balzy

Posted 1/19/2012 20:12 (#2172623 - in reply to #2172565)
Subject: Re: help ID an old JD disc from pics

central Iowa

Large scalper specializing in JD has one just like that on the yard for show. He's south of Hampton.IA but can't think of the name. He'd probably know. That's pretty cool.

Rusty6

Posted 1/19/2012 20:21 (#2172653 - in reply to #2172623)
Subject: Re: help ID an old JD disc from pics

S.E. Sask.

Here they were called "tillers" and very popular in the late 40s and 50s. Most had an available seeding attachment and would do a fair job of planting a crop. And no, surflex referred to the newer "diskers" that had flexible gangs and spring suspension. Those old tillers were solid frame with no give or flex so depth control for seeding was pretty variable unless your land was flat as a table.. The fact that this one has rubber tires makes me think it might be from the 50s. Most of the older ones had steel rims front and back and only rubber on the land (centre) wheel. I've got a couple of 1200 surflexes on the farm. Tough old machines.

QuAppelle

Posted 1/19/2012 20:45 (#2172745 - in reply to #2172653)
Subject: Re: help ID an old JD disc from pics

Sask

Rusty's got it right. They were called tillers or oneways. I have a six foot Massey-Harris on steel out behind the barn. Cockshutt made one with a seed box they called the Tiller Combine and it was considered a much better seeder than a Massey-Harris or John Deere. There's a three furrow Massey-Harris disk plow out there too, and it's a different machine. Each disk is on a separate hub. They were popular on the heavy clay south of here.

Jacob Bolson

Posted 1/19/2012 20:24 (#2172667 - in reply to #2172623)
Subject: Re: help ID an old JD disc from pics

Iowa

BALZY - 1/19/2012 20:12

Large scalper specializing in JD has one just like that on the yard for show. He's south of Hampton.IA but can't think of the name. He'd probably know. That's pretty cool.

Where at south of Hampton? There are 2 or 3 yards south of Iowa Falls on 65 that people have plows displayed along the road.

Balzy

Posted 1/19/2012 20:53 (#2172770 - in reply to #2172667)
Subject: Re: help ID an old JD disc from pics

central Iowa

Jacob, the guy is located on the co blktp that goes north off the hwy 65 curve n of Iowa Falls, past Bradford, comes out W of Hampton on hwy 3. In between there somewhere, but he's right on the blktop, both sides of road. Used to just have a few items, but he's got more stuff than a lot of dealers.

KTA

Posted 1/19/2012 21:04 (#2172803 - in reply to #2172770)
Subject: Re: help ID an old JD disc from pics

John Deere parts book PC255. "Standard" model disk tiller. Front weight is going to be off utility tractor like 40-420-430- 1010 etc.

pknoeber

Posted 1/19/2012 20:29 (#2172679 - in reply to #2172213)
Subject: RE: That's the creator of the Dust Bowl...

SW KS, near Dodge City

Those things relocated more real estate than Ted Turner could ever dream about...

rowcropper

Posted 1/19/2012 21:02 (#2172797 - in reply to #2172213)
Subject: RE: help ID an old JD disc from pics

JDflyer, here is a better picture of the weight, and I don't know what it came from but I think I see a little green paint on it. Thanks for all the answers from everybody. I will give the parts counter guy something to do on a slow day.

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retento

Posted 1/19/2012 21:36 (#2172902 - in reply to #2172797)
Subject: Re: help ID an old JD disc from pics

Eastern North Carolina

John Deere Disk Tiller, may be a model 120-B... I got one like that with 5 blades on steel wheels.

Steiger Man

Posted 1/19/2012 22:31 (#2173110 - in reply to #2172213)
Subject: RE: help ID an old JD disc from pics

Sunburst Montana

I have one just like it. I think it will look good behind our Styled D. Looks like some are getting the terms disc "tiller" and disc "plow" mixed up. They are 2 different types of disc at least in the JD world. Disc plows usually have the blades spaced farther apart and slanted back. Used for really hard ground and for breaking sod. Disc tillers are just what you have. Blade spacing is closer and they were used for lighter work. Kind of like the difference between a chisel plow and field cultivator. Both kind of the same but one used for heavier work.

QuAppelle

Posted 1/19/2012 23:18 (#2173225 - in reply to #2173110)
Subject: RE: help ID an old JD disc from pics

Sask

That sounds like the way my old Massey-Harris disk plow is set up. I'm not going to wade through the snow and this gentle arctic breeze to check it out tonight, though.

bigwortham

Posted 1/20/2012 00:46 (#2173385 - in reply to #2173225)
Subject: Re: help ID an old JD disc from pics

Where I'm from, we call that a "breaking plow." My dad and I used to use it back in the day,...about 15-20 years ago to plow a couple of fields because in some parts of it was hard clay. That thing would plow clay like it was sandy loam soil. He used it and let it sit for several years and I convinced him to pull it out and use. Back then we pulled with a Farmall C. It pulled it pretty good. No one of my older brothers use it to plow his garden. He uses a NH T33. I think he just does it more for recreational purposes to say that hes running equipment, lol.

Steiger Man

Posted 1/20/2012 08:19 (#2173599 - in reply to #2173225)
Subject: RE: help ID an old JD disc from pics

Sunburst Montana

We also have a JD 5 bottom plow and we used it back in the day for breaking sod. I might scan a few pics from my lit and post on another day when things are slow. I was looking through my IH book and same thing there. IH distinguished betweened disc plows and disc tillers.

Edited by Steiger Man 1/20/2012 08:20

jd6620

Posted 1/20/2012 11:14 (#2174008 - in reply to #2172213)
Subject: 6 disks makes it a 260 or 260-A-H

Ref. PC-255

BOGTROTTER

Posted 1/20/2012 11:29 (#2174033 - in reply to #2172213)
Subject: Re: help ID an old JD disc from pics

Kingston,Mi

It is a disk tiller, I started farming with one that I bought out of a gully in 1975. Mine may have been 1 size smaller, but I pulled it with a "BR" or a IHC "H". It might be a model 200a if it has 7 disks at 8 inch spacing or a 260a with 6 disks at 10 2/3 inch spacing. I'll look in the tool shed to see if I still have the operators manual.

DO NOT try to back it up, it will vastly improve your language skills in a negative way.

Disk plows have every disk blade mounted on its own stem and bearing

jcs

Posted 1/20/2012 11:33 (#2174040 - in reply to #2174033)
Subject: Re: help ID an old JD disc from pics

Oklahoma

I am glad someone posted this. We have one that my grandpa converted to a 3pt so we could do landscaping and garden work (took off the tail assembly also so it is just a row of discs). It works great but needs a new disc and a few other things. Local JD dealer claims they never made it and it is homemade. But that frame number is the exact same number on ours and the hubs are all stamped JD. Thanks for posting.

Edited by jcs 1/20/2012 11:34

PARTMANN

Posted 1/20/2012 12:01 (#2174091 - in reply to #2172213)
Subject: RE: help ID an old JD disc from pics

Corpus Christi, TX

Looks like a 260 disc tiller. Probably made in the early 50's

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