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semosandfarmer
Posted 12/4/2011 22:44 (#2084927)
Subject: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)



East Prairie, MO

Can't say I've ever see one come through Dewitt's before, pretty cool!

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racinfarmer
Posted 12/4/2011 22:50 (#2084939 - in reply to #2084927)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


Let us know what it brings. Would be fun to have on our farm for a while.
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nwkyfrmr
Posted 12/4/2011 22:52 (#2084942 - in reply to #2084927)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


NW KY
I bet that quad-fold disc beside it would giver her a bit of a workout.
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semosandfarmer
Posted 12/4/2011 22:54 (#2084947 - in reply to #2084942)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)



East Prairie, MO

I know! That thing is a massive chunk of iron, bet it would make that Big Bud talk, bet that disk will bring close to what the tractor does.

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steigerman
Posted 12/4/2011 23:55 (#2085053 - in reply to #2084947)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


SC Kansas
Looks like a Big G disk. They make the biggest disk, a 60 footer. They're made down the road from me too. I'd be interested to know what it brings, if you don't mind.
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semosandfarmer
Posted 12/4/2011 22:53 (#2084945 - in reply to #2084927)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)



East Prairie, MO
I'm anxious to see what it brings too, I'll report back on this thread with the results.
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racinfarmer
Posted 12/4/2011 22:56 (#2084952 - in reply to #2084945)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


semosandfarmer - 12/4/2011 22:53

I'm anxious to see what it brings too, I'll report back on this thread with the results.


If you would, please take some good pictures of it too, that series is rare to see.
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Steiger Man
Posted 12/4/2011 23:00 (#2084965 - in reply to #2084952)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


Sunburst Montana

That one is a series 4 and is the rarest of all series.  But any Big Bud is rare.  They made just barely over 500 of them total.  And then start breaking it down by Series and model. 



Edited by Steiger Man 12/4/2011 23:01
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SDFarmboy
Posted 12/4/2011 23:13 (#2084987 - in reply to #2084965)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


Steiger Man - 12/4/2011 23:00

That one is a series 4 and is the rarest of all series.  But any Big Bud is rare.  They made just barely over 500 of them total.  And then start breaking it down by Series and model. 




They surely made a lot more than 500.  I don't agree.  Tell us more, about the numbers
per year and model.     

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nsfarm
Posted 12/4/2011 23:52 (#2085047 - in reply to #2084987)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


Manitoba, Canada
I'd say that sounds pretty accurate
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Steiger Man
Posted 12/4/2011 23:56 (#2085054 - in reply to #2084987)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


Sunburst Montana

My info comes from Ron Harmon himself.  I don't have the time to list the break down on all the models because there are so many.  And there really aren't any either except for the series 3.   All you can do is averages.  Their first tractor was the HN 250 made from 1969 to 1975.  Made 63 of them.  63 divided by 7 gives you an average of 9 HN 250s a year.  Not really a record setting pace.  And the 250 was the only tractor they had in production until the HN 350 in 1973.  I can tell you most of the Big Buds were built around 1977 to 1981 which consists of the Series 2 and 3.  They didn't make hardly any after going bankrupt in the early 80s.  Only made about 21 of the Series 4. 



Edited by Steiger Man 12/5/2011 00:08
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Rosco
Posted 12/5/2011 11:32 (#2085508 - in reply to #2085054)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


Galahad, Alberta
You're bang on with your numbers. 516 total tractors built, only 21 of the series 4 style pictured above. Most popular was the series 3 with 265 being built. I can't tell the model of the one in the pic, doesn't look overly huge. There were 7 different hp models built, using 5 different engines manufacturers-Cat, Cummins, Deutz, Komatsu, and Detroit!
Rosco
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usafarmer
Posted 12/5/2011 11:51 (#2085537 - in reply to #2085508)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


Newfane NY
They used a Deutz??????? Can you give us a little more info??? I got to have that one.

John
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Rosco
Posted 12/5/2011 12:34 (#2085602 - in reply to #2085537)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


Galahad, Alberta
There was only one made using the Deutz engine, and it would have been built between '86 and '90, in the same style as the original pic above. It was a 500 hp model using a Deutz engine model BF12L513C. There were 2 other 500hp models built by Big Bud in the same time frame, but they used Komatsu engines. Almost all of the series 4 tractors built were customer order. If you wanted 450 hp and liked Detroit Diesel engines, that's what you got.
Rosco
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usafarmer
Posted 12/6/2011 07:48 (#2087236 - in reply to #2085602)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


Newfane NY
Thank you
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SDFarmboy
Posted 12/4/2011 22:55 (#2084949 - in reply to #2084927)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


Looks like a late model one, good tires, and it should pull anything you have. Better than a Case or Cat, so I am thinking you better go have a look and bid.
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semosandfarmer
Posted 12/4/2011 22:58 (#2084955 - in reply to #2084949)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)



East Prairie, MO

Have a look, yes. Bid, no lol! A STX 275 pulls anything I have now so I think she's a little big for me, would be cool though I must say. Says powershift on the side and I didn't know they ever had that, any idea what year range it would be? It looks great in person, gotta check out the cab tomorrow to kill curiosity.

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Five Lock Boll
Posted 12/4/2011 23:06 (#2084978 - in reply to #2084927)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


Northeast Louisiana
Hey Andrew, off topic but I've been wanting to ask you about something. We drove through the floodway the Friday before Thanksgiving on the way to Chicago. I didn't realize that the majority of it had gotten planted, or at least it appeared to have been. We saw several guys cutting beans. I also didn't realize there was so much back there in terms of buildings, grain bins, shops, etc. The media coverage back when they blew it made it sound like there would be very little property damage, but I saw some really nice operations in there. It was also obvious some of them had already done a lot of work getting things back in order. I take it that means they're not concerned about this happening again any time soon? I know the guys who farm there have had a tough year, with a lot of extra work thrown at them. Just wondering how those guys made out and if they're all going to survive.
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semosandfarmer
Posted 12/4/2011 23:18 (#2084999 - in reply to #2084978)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)



East Prairie, MO

I'll answer as short as I can here...Over 100 homes and countless other structures. Some were very nice Headquarter and homeplaces. Most are not rebuilding, many life long residences of the spillway now own houses closer to town. Of the 110,000 acres I'd say 105,000 got planted, maybe a little more. Worst is the areas that had crevasses due to current, some of that will never be farmed again. Other areas drained off good and a pretty good crop (99.9% beans) was pulled out of there. Very late crop so some is still in the field in places. I farm a few hundred in there and am fortunate that it was a low current area with no land damage, only some older buildings and a single wide trailer that was on that farm. You are able to rebuild if it can be done for under 50% of appraised value before the flood and still have insurance, more than that and it has to be on a 10-12 ft. tall mound of dirt to qualify for coverage.

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PettyTN4920
Posted 12/4/2011 23:07 (#2084980 - in reply to #2084927)
Subject: RE: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


Southwest TN
Check how many hrs its got. I'll take a guess and say it brings at least 100,000. Anything less is a steal going by the pics. On the other hand if its at DeWhitt some sucker may get it for 40,000. Too bad i haven't had a bumper crop so i could throw my hand up.
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Steiger Man
Posted 12/5/2011 00:07 (#2085067 - in reply to #2084980)
Subject: RE: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


Sunburst Montana

$100,000 is what Big Equipment would charge.  But you can get them for half that through private deals. 

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semosandfarmer
Posted 12/5/2011 08:52 (#2085300 - in reply to #2085067)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)



East Prairie, MO
Maybe no internet bidding but you can bid over the phone.
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bsf
Posted 12/4/2011 23:32 (#2085025 - in reply to #2084927)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


nwks
1-Big Bud IV 450 tractor, 30.5x32 R1 duals, 5490 hrs., SN 90504-04
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earp
Posted 12/4/2011 23:34 (#2085027 - in reply to #2084927)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)



Manila, Ar
100K.............surely you jest............:)
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sri
Posted 12/4/2011 23:40 (#2085034 - in reply to #2085027)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


nw pa

don't call me shirley..lol

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mr8850
Posted 12/4/2011 23:50 (#2085043 - in reply to #2085027)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


Minot ND
A couple of years ago,a farmer in northwest ND bought a 16v149stiger, motor went, spent 100000 at cummins and put in a QSX 19 engine (electronic 1150) had to make the hood longer, now he cant keep the tires on it, keep spinning on the rims. last i seen it was sitting with no rims and tires. he was looking for a big set of triples.
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Detroit
Posted 12/5/2011 00:06 (#2085065 - in reply to #2084927)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


Crawfordsville, Arkansas
I'm betting on $50-55k. I even think that is a bit high but it does look very clean with good tires. I saw the flyer for that sale but didn't realize it was tomorrow. Keep us posted.
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Big Ben
Posted 12/5/2011 00:15 (#2085077 - in reply to #2085065)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


Columbia Basin, Ephrata, WA
If it was close and selling for 50k I'd likely bid.
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1934 A
Posted 12/5/2011 00:19 (#2085083 - in reply to #2085065)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


north central nebraska
there used to be 4 buds in my neiborhood with 55 foot big g disks. you could hear the distinctive planetary whine for quite a ways away. pretty impressive .
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cocodrie
Posted 12/5/2011 00:12 (#2085072 - in reply to #2084927)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)



Mississippi Delta
I'd be interested in what it brings as well. It came out of NE Arkansas. Somewhere around Newport I was told. I think that disk is a 55 footer.
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Detroit
Posted 12/5/2011 00:41 (#2085099 - in reply to #2085072)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


Crawfordsville, Arkansas
cocodrie - 12/4/2011 23:12

I'd be interested in what it brings as well. It came out of NE Arkansas. Somewhere around Newport I was told. I think that disk is a 55 footer.


Down the road from where our Rome came from I think.
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cocodrie
Posted 12/5/2011 00:48 (#2085103 - in reply to #2085099)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)



Mississippi Delta
I know the guy that went and fetched it. He thought it ad an 855 and he said it had a powershift that looked like one in a case/ih steiger, said it was even red. I'm assuming it was a Twin Disc.
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usafarmer
Posted 12/5/2011 07:07 (#2085184 - in reply to #2084927)
Subject: Someone give us a link........NT


Newfane NY
NT
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cocodrie
Posted 12/5/2011 08:05 (#2085227 - in reply to #2085184)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)



Mississippi Delta
http://www.dewittauction.com/cgi-bin/rm_dewittauction/exec/search.c...
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GregC
Posted 12/5/2011 08:39 (#2085279 - in reply to #2085227)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


I called the auction company, as there were a few things that caught my eye. Found out they don't have internet bidding and the guy I talked to sounded really leary of the tractor, for some reason.
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eddie
Posted 12/5/2011 09:48 (#2085387 - in reply to #2085279)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


he probably doesn't want his buddies to have bidding competition

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usafarmer
Posted 12/5/2011 09:40 (#2085378 - in reply to #2085227)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


Newfane NY
Thank you. No live internet, bummer.
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cottonhauler
Posted 12/5/2011 11:26 (#2085501 - in reply to #2084927)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


Zabcikville, TX
I've never seen a Big Bud in person, only photos and videos. I know things/farming practices are different in other parts of the country. But, what's the big deal with Big Buds? To me (only an opinion) they are ugly, huge and cumbersome looking. Why would an early 80's tractor be worth a hundred grand? Seems stupid to me to pay that much for a tractor that can only plow. Please inform me.
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GregC
Posted 12/5/2011 11:30 (#2085505 - in reply to #2085501)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


I don't know if they are worth $100,000. That's up to the market to decide. But as to why they are desirable in some situations, they don't cost $200,000, they don't continuously throw codes, and they don't require a $100 per hour tech (who will be there when he or she can) to repair/replace sensors that are just out of warranty. JMO.
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Steiger Man
Posted 12/5/2011 11:59 (#2085553 - in reply to #2085501)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


Sunburst Montana

Go look up the price of a new 500 hp tractor then get back to us.  I know a guy who bought a nice 525/50 a couple of years ago for $40,000.  Last time I checked, any tractor that big new or early 1980s are basically used for plowing or heavy tillage. 

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Newguy
Posted 12/5/2011 13:01 (#2085638 - in reply to #2085501)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


WC MN

They are historic marvels...... Built at the peak of an Agriculture bubble.      Only the big boys around here had one back in the day.    500 hp in 1980, shoot man, it took Red and Green 20+ years later to figure out how to make it work......


They may look ugly, archayic, but anyone who says they don't look intimidating doesn't know the history of those big fella's.....


I'd love to have one.    But highly doubt I ever will.....

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German Shepherd
Posted 12/5/2011 13:32 (#2085680 - in reply to #2085501)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


Many years ago, someone in Montana told me, "You don't buy a Big Bud to farm with, you buy one to brag about it".

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neukm
Posted 12/5/2011 12:02 (#2085560 - in reply to #2084927)
Subject: RE: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


EC IL
The last time I was at DeWitt's, once they got to running tractors through the building and stuff wasn't bringing what they wanted, they just quit altogether. Before a couple ones I was interested in "sold"
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cottonhauler
Posted 12/5/2011 12:40 (#2085610 - in reply to #2084927)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


Zabcikville, TX
I get what you're saying about the newer "computerized/electronic" tractors. I know they put out A LOT of power. I would be most concerned on parts availability. 30 yrs old + not many built = no parts, or expensive ones at least. Are they "component" tractors? I just don't know. Please don't take it the wrong way.
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GregC
Posted 12/5/2011 12:46 (#2085614 - in reply to #2085610)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


Yes, they are component tractors. Clark/Caterpillar axles, Eaton-Fuller/Allison/Twin Disc trannies, Cummins, Cat, Detroit, Komatsu engines. They were designed as a platform that would be easy to service.

No offense taken by me. I can certainly understand why some would have absolutely no use for them. However, in large dryland operations, or perhaps situations where a very rugged high HP, low frills machine was needed, they certainly can prove their worth.

Edited by GregC 12/5/2011 12:46
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Rosco
Posted 12/5/2011 12:53 (#2085627 - in reply to #2085610)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


Galahad, Alberta
That Tractor had a Cummins NTA855 engine, likely fitted with a Twin Disc 12/2 tranny. Find those kind of parts anywhere. Big Buds were built in the same mindset as an early Versatile. Used very common, off the shelf components that farmers could easily find and replace themselves.
Rosco
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Steiger Man
Posted 12/5/2011 18:54 (#2086127 - in reply to #2085610)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


Sunburst Montana

They were the most componentized tractor on the market.  Only thing Big Bud made was the frame, cab, and drop box.  And they were built to take most of the engines and trannies from the major suppliers.  There are more then a few Buds running around that don't have the original engine, tranny, or axles.  They can be upgraded pretty easy with newer components.  I can take mine right now and replace the old 855 with a Cummins QSX engine, take the fuller tranny out and install a powershift, install bigger axles, and a newer Bud cab.  All without torching or cutting the frame.  As far as I know, Big Bud is the only tractor I've seen with the radiator, engine, clutch, and tranny built on a skid unit so you could pull the unit out to work on it or change out a component. 



Edited by Steiger Man 12/5/2011 18:56
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GregC
Posted 12/5/2011 13:10 (#2085648 - in reply to #2084927)
Subject: RE: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


I am guessing everything on the sale is price protected, as there is nothing mentioned about being an absolute auction.

If they really wanted to sell the tractor, a good way would be to put it on Purplewave, Big Iron, etc., and give it a month of internet exposure with no reserve.
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gilb2you
Posted 12/5/2011 14:07 (#2085729 - in reply to #2085648)
Subject: RE: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


NE mt
Those are cool tractors to say the least, i toured the factory when in high school, about the last year before they shut down, always wanted one. The cabs tilt up and the engines pull out on a track type system if not mistaken, yes they are component tractors, i have even seen the biggest one made, oddly the only part they cant find is the headlights they used on it. I would love to have that one pictured. I think alot of them landed in the construction industry pulling dirt pans, alot of horses that was relatively portable compared to caterpillars and what not at the time.
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Ed Boysun
Posted 12/5/2011 15:00 (#2085788 - in reply to #2085729)
Subject: RE: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)



Agent Orange: Friendly fire that keeps on burning.

During Bud's heyday years, they talked the strip mine at Coalstrip into trying half dozen of them with the HD pan that Bud was peddling (possibly building??) at that time. They didn't last six months in that environment. CAT motor-scrapers are still being successfully used there to this day.

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collegeboy
Posted 12/5/2011 15:07 (#2085800 - in reply to #2085788)
Subject: RE: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)



Slicker than a Yes album.
What fell apart on them?
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Ed Boysun
Posted 12/5/2011 15:21 (#2085824 - in reply to #2085800)
Subject: RE: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)



Agent Orange: Friendly fire that keeps on burning.

I don't know. Next time I visit with the engineer that was head of maintenance, I'll ask him.
He specifically mentioned that the scrapers were running through a dip after being loaded and there was more stress on the outfit than they could handle. They don't waste a lot of time at that mine, so I suspect they were running about as fast as the motor could push them.

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smartwick08
Posted 12/5/2011 16:14 (#2085884 - in reply to #2085824)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


Minot, ND
yea if u have been in the mining industry, you will know that things are not taken very good care of.
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Redman
Posted 12/11/2011 03:05 (#2096540 - in reply to #2085788)
Subject: RE: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


SW Saskatchewan
Ed, if I recall correctly, and I have only a limited amount of information from the early 80's when we were buying-it was Frigstad building the dirt pans in the Building that Havre and Hill county built for the Frigstads.

And the units I had seen being tested on the hilltop out behind the Bud factory were painted a rusty orange, maybe an Bucyrus Erie shade. The similar colored tractors were labelled "Frigstad" and to the best of my observation were merely payloaders or wheel dozers with the bucket/blade assembly missing.

Kojak Frigstad was a great believer that you could bull anyone by just letting you know that he had more money than you. Didn't work where performance was objectively tested.
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GregC
Posted 12/5/2011 14:10 (#2085735 - in reply to #2084927)
Subject: SOLD!!!


$64,000.
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cocodrie
Posted 12/5/2011 15:21 (#2085823 - in reply to #2085735)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)



Mississippi Delta
Headed back to MT
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GregC
Posted 12/5/2011 15:37 (#2085838 - in reply to #2085823)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


Did Ron Harmon buy it?
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Steiger Man
Posted 12/5/2011 18:42 (#2086109 - in reply to #2085838)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


Sunburst Montana

If he did, it will show up for sale in the paper $164,000.

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semosandfarmer
Posted 12/5/2011 15:29 (#2085831 - in reply to #2084927)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)



East Prairie, MO
Tractor brought 64,000and the disk went for 31,000 I think. Took a couple of pics I may post when I get home. Nasty rainy cold sale day today with 5" of rain in the last 36 hours!

Edited by semosandfarmer 12/5/2011 15:36
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semosandfarmer
Posted 12/5/2011 15:48 (#2085849 - in reply to #2084927)
Subject: A few more pics



East Prairie, MO

Here's the few I took, it was NOT the best day for picture taking. I was never able to get up in the cab.









 

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farmerkirk
Posted 12/5/2011 16:51 (#2085934 - in reply to #2085849)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


SC Kansas
Is that a big G greenline disc?
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swne
Posted 12/5/2011 16:55 (#2085941 - in reply to #2085934)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


Cambridge, southwestern Nebraska
Certainly looks like a Big G. Thanks for the pics semosandfarmer. Looks like a decent buy.
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snowden
Posted 12/5/2011 20:18 (#2086340 - in reply to #2085941)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


michigan
have not seen many sold on auction but that seems like a good buy isnt it wish it would have been closer to us
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semosandfarmer
Posted 12/5/2011 23:36 (#2086932 - in reply to #2085934)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)



East Prairie, MO

Yes, Big G greenline disk.

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ILLRick
Posted 12/5/2011 23:05 (#2086863 - in reply to #2084927)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


ECIL
So just for kicks, how would that tractor work on a pull type tile plow? I wouldn't have a clue myself. Power shouldn't be a problem and I don't think weighting it, if necessary, would be either. Can it go slow enough?
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J.Hasert
Posted 12/5/2011 23:23 (#2086912 - in reply to #2084927)
Subject: Big Bud Model Numbers


I am working with the Williams Brothers to produce a series of Big Bud toys. So far we have produced the HN-320 and HN-250 in 1/16 and the 740 in 1/64. We will have Series III in 1/32 and 1/64 in 2012. The first Big Bud was a 1969 HN-250 and the last Big Bud was a 1991 450.

Here is the list we are working from.

Series I 1969-1978: Cummins NT-855 engines


HN-250, HN-320, HN-350 and HN-360.


Series II 1976-1978: Cummins KT-1150 engines

KT-450 and KT-525

Series III Break Down:
Cummins NT-885 Engine Models:

320/10

360/10


Cummins KT-1550 Engine Models:


400/30

450/20

525/50

525/84

600/50


Detroit Diesel 8V92T Engine Models:

8V 400

8V 460

400/20

400/30


Detroit Diesel 12V92T Engine Models:

650/35

650/50

655


Detroit Diesel TD92-2610 Engine Model:

16V 747



Series IV: 1986-1991 Cummins, Caterpillar, Duetz, Komatsu and Detroit Diesel Engines

The Series IV Big Bud 4wds offered new power with a moder design. This generation of Big Buds offered six engine options.


Cummins NT-885 Engine Model:
370

450


Caterpillar 3406B Engine Model:

400

SA6D140 Komatsu Engine Models:


370

440

500


Detroit Diesel 8V92T Engine Model:
450



Deutz BF12L513 Engine Model:

500


Series V : 1986 and 1990 SA6D140 Komatsu Engine

740

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SDFarmboy
Posted 12/5/2011 23:31 (#2086926 - in reply to #2086912)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


Hasert:

Ertl has been making BigBud Tractors, I have a 370 with triples Blue and white, and a 370 Black and white with duals. Both 1/64th scale. Nicely detailed, well done.

Do you now have the rights to the toy trademark ?
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J.Hasert
Posted 12/6/2011 20:22 (#2088407 - in reply to #2086926)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


SDFarmboy - 12/5/2011 23:31

Hasert:

Ertl has been making BigBud Tractors, I have a 370 with triples Blue and white, and a 370 Black and white with duals. Both 1/64th scale. Nicely detailed, well done.

Do you now have the rights to the toy trademark ?


Robert and Randy Williams own Big Bud now. Toy Tractor Times.com has exclusive rights to produce Big Bud farm toys through the Williams Brothers.

The Big Bud 740 is our newest model: http://www.toytractortimes.com/shop/product.html?product=61

Edited by J.Hasert 12/6/2011 20:23
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Steiger Man
Posted 12/5/2011 23:42 (#2086941 - in reply to #2086912)
Subject: RE: Big Bud Model Numbers


Sunburst Montana

Do you have an idea on what model and when is your next one in 1/16th scale going to come out?  1/16th scale is the only ones that interest me.  Would love to see a Series 1 KT 450. 

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J.Hasert
Posted 12/6/2011 20:30 (#2088424 - in reply to #2086941)
Subject: RE: Big Bud Model Numbers




Steiger Man - 12/5/2011 23:42

Do you have an idea on what model and when is your next one in 1/16th scale going to come out?  1/16th scale is the only ones that interest me.  Would love to see a Series 1 KT 450. 



We produced the HN-320 and HN-250 in 1/16. There were only 1,300 HN-320s made and 500 HN-250's. These models had 1,000 individual parts. With this much detail the price was $249. We did not find the sales required to invest in the KT Series. We would like to do more 1/16. Maybe when the over all economy improves we can look at 1/16 again.

Right now we have a high detail 1/64 model 740 on the way and new 1/64 and 1/32 high detail models planned for 2012 and 2013.

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rkd1119
Posted 12/5/2011 23:36 (#2086931 - in reply to #2084927)
Subject: Re: Going to Be a Big Bud in the sale tomorrow (pic)


I don't see the attraction in those dinosaurs myself, but for those of you that do...

I've got a friend N of me who has a Rome (450 or 475 hp running) and a Woods and Copeland (400 I think, not) that could probably be bought.

You're all but guaranteed to have the only one in your neighborhood! (lol)
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