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northmofarm
Posted 11/7/2011 10:36 (#2037679)
Subject: rock picker????


Rented a farm last year that grows rocks and corn. Raised some good corn but its pretty tough on disk blades. Does someone make something you can run over a place like this that will pick up the rocks. Kids have discovered its not much fun and it seems there has to be a better way. Have heard of guys up north rolling them down. Will they ever stop coming up?
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Greg Stremel
Posted 11/7/2011 10:58 (#2037700 - in reply to #2037679)
Subject: RE: rock picker????


Southwest Missouri		Yes they do. Some are better than others. I bought an Anderson 20 years ago. I used it a lot. Sits in shed now. It worked good if the conditions were right. Nothing but rocks and loose dirt were best. I suspect there are better ones on the market.

I picked up a bunch of rocks with it. Picking by hand was just not going to get it done. :( I admire the work ethic and tenacity of the old farmers who built the large rock barns.

Edited by Greg Stremel 11/7/2011 11:31
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northmofarm
Posted 11/7/2011 11:01 (#2037706 - in reply to #2037700)
Subject: Re: rock picker????


would you want to sell it greg
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Greg Stremel
Posted 11/7/2011 11:33 (#2037750 - in reply to #2037706)
Subject: Re: rock picker????


Southwest Missouri		No. I plan to keep it. We will run it again sometime. FYI, it cost new $12,000 20 years ago.
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grizz1972
Posted 11/7/2011 11:46 (#2037760 - in reply to #2037750)
Subject: Re: rock picker????


wisconsin		best thing ive found is a skid steer with a rock bucket on it
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TWB
Posted 11/7/2011 20:13 (#2038327 - in reply to #2037760)
Subject: Re: rock picker????


Middle Tennessee		I brought a rock bucket for my skid loader this spring, lot better than picking up by hand.
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gypwater
Posted 11/7/2011 11:52 (#2037768 - in reply to #2037700)
Subject: Re: rock picker????


ALTUS,OKLA73521		I have a farm with lots of rocks . piles , fences and still grows rocks. I imagine they had a lot of kids and no t.v.s and no computer games. They were much more authoritaive in those years. I would also like to have a rock picker.
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Rosco
Posted 11/7/2011 11:57 (#2037777 - in reply to #2037679)
Subject: Re: rock picker????


Galahad, Alberta		Frost action brings them up, no, they never stop coming. There are numerous companies here in Canada that make rock pickers. Degelman, Shulte, Highline, to name some. Get a PTO drive, they are the simplest, ground drive sucks, hyd drive can be expensive to fix if it breaks. I've spent many hours in a 2290 looking back at a Degelman picker.
Rosco
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tomosakis
Posted 11/7/2011 12:35 (#2037812 - in reply to #2037777)
Subject: Re: rock picker????


Osakis, MN

Just how do you reverse the reel on a PTO drive picker when the big one doesn't fit in there?   I will go against the grain here and say that a hydraulic drive is the only way to go on a reel type rock picker. They will never ever be completely picked, ever. 

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Rosco
Posted 11/7/2011 12:47 (#2037825 - in reply to #2037812)
Subject: Re: rock picker????


Galahad, Alberta		With a Degelman on the 2290, just shut the PTO off, and shut the tractor off to relieve pressure on the PTO clutch pack, and the reel turns backward and the rock falls out.
Rosco
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mcupps
Posted 11/7/2011 17:08 (#2038051 - in reply to #2037825)
Subject: Re: rock picker????


Downtown Shell Knob MO Come Visit!		my 2290 has weak batterys and a weak starter.
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Rosco
Posted 11/7/2011 17:12 (#2038056 - in reply to #2038051)
Subject: Re: rock picker????


Galahad, Alberta		They make so many of them that they sell them in stores, probably the same one where you picked up your hyd. conversion kit!
Rosco
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mcupps
Posted 11/7/2011 23:59 (#2038885 - in reply to #2038056)
Subject: Re: rock picker????


Downtown Shell Knob MO Come Visit!		Ya, but I only had 400 bucks total, so it was either put the batteries and starter on the 2290 and be stuck with a ground drive rock picker, or put a hydro motor on the rock picker and have a hydro drive rock picker hooked to a running tractor. And I get most of my hyrdo stuff at surpluscenter. But they don't have good starters or batteries. or Id probably buy some. My brother bought 10 group 31 batteries the other morning and by 2 oclock they were all gone. :( :(
I will say that the rock picker and the 2290 both had there best day on the same day. that day was "selling day"
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blr
Posted 11/8/2011 02:50 (#2038951 - in reply to #2038885)
Subject: Re: rock picker????


southern saskatchewan		With a schulte 320 rock picker they all come hydraulic drive and with the right tractor that will pick alot of rock without having to shut the tractor off. The 320 schulte is a good picker if the rocks are smaller than about 2 ft. No worries about turning or rocks stoping the bats and slip clutch. If you need to back it up the hydraulic is all thats needed.
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German Shepherd
Posted 11/7/2011 14:30 (#2037929 - in reply to #2037812)
Subject: Re: rock picker????


I've found that once a reel type picker gets stuck, the only way to get them unstuck is back the tractor up and turn so the tractor tire is close to the reel, put a chain around from the tire to the reel, back up some more and straighten out the tractor to pull the reel ahead.

I went to a Haybuster rock picker 20 years ago, a lot better than a reel type.  Way too much friction with the reel pushing the rocks along the concave grate.

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mcupps
Posted 11/7/2011 12:42 (#2037820 - in reply to #2037777)
Subject: Re: rock picker????


Downtown Shell Knob MO Come Visit!		Had a ground drive, it was no fun, turned it into hydraulic and it worked great, I wouldn't want a pto. Seems like a lot of stuff could break on a pto one when that big rock wedges the reel. I always wanted to try one of those haybuster ones. Btw, I would never run a rock picker without a rock rake (rock windrower) Notill solved our rock problem. Rocks don't grow anymore, and if they do, its usually less than a rock per acre so a gps marker button on the planter and a man with a pickup can take care of everything. Most of our ground is at least 20% rock fragment and 10% stoney in the A or Ap. so even a rock picker never solved the problem, it just produced large volumes of rocks. Up north where they have glacial till stones instead of residium rock, rock pickers seem to make a lot more sense.
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johndeere1
Posted 11/7/2011 12:47 (#2037826 - in reply to #2037820)
Subject: don't buy a PTO picker!!!!


Central Saskatchewan Canada		Neighbour just about lost his arm in one. The rock jammed and he was using a bar to break it loose. the reel swung back and got his arm. tghe hydraulic picker is by far the best. They are a pretty simple machine. not much to go wrong.
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Rosco
Posted 11/7/2011 12:56 (#2037833 - in reply to #2037826)
Subject: Re: rock picker????


Galahad, Alberta		Sorry to hear that, yes, you have to be carefull when those reels trip back under the spring pressure. but as I replied to Tomosakis, shut the pto and tractor off, and the reel should rotate backwards and the rock fall out.
Rosco
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Rosco
Posted 11/7/2011 12:49 (#2037828 - in reply to #2037820)
Subject: Re: rock picker????


Galahad, Alberta		The Degelman has a slip clutch, it is important to make sure they are free each spring. Have never broken any components of the drive.
Rosco
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mcupps
Posted 11/7/2011 17:04 (#2038046 - in reply to #2037828)
Subject: Re: rock picker????


Downtown Shell Knob MO Come Visit!		My grain cart has a slip clutch, it also has a twisted in two driveline after I sent a tree limb through it. Slip clutch forgot to slip. Im ususally not a fan of hydro stuff over PTO. but in the field with dust and dirt and turning and backing up to unload, a hydro motor seems pretty simple compare to a bunch of Ujoints.
I think I would trade every constant velocity joint I have in for hydraulic power if I could. I know that I turned my rock picker into hydro drive for a about 400 bucks total and 2 or 3 hours in the shop. On the flip side, I just rebuilt the driveline on a disc mower and it cost me closer to 2K and a lot more time in the shop.
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Rosco
Posted 11/7/2011 17:10 (#2038053 - in reply to #2038046)
Subject: Re: rock picker????


Galahad, Alberta		After reading the responses here, I can see I'm in the minority, oh well. d;<) Use what works for you, I've had good luck with the pto drive. I've had enough grief with orbit motors that I would shy away from a hyd drive picker.
Rosco
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jimgen
Posted 11/7/2011 19:48 (#2038269 - in reply to #2037777)
Subject: Re: rock picker????


central mich		We have picked stones by hand when we were young. But we have three different stone pickers including an Anderson HighLift and a Dengelman (sp?) unit with a potatoe chain, Dengelman works pretty good for small stone ( The ground has to be dry and loose for both the Anderson and Dengelman )and a PTO powered windrower.
Lately we have found that if the stones are thick then we will windrow. Then we use a skid steer with a rock bucket and we have a small three yard dump truck. We will pick more stone than any stonepicker that we have tried. And we can get the big ones that an Anderson or Dengelman will not pick. When we pick stone I am talking about 100 ton or so in a long day.
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#1pilsner
Posted 11/7/2011 13:03 (#2037838 - in reply to #2037679)
Subject: Re: rock picker????


Se. Sk.		get a hydraulic drive.....pto drive sucks...just switched out my pto 4 hydraulic...wish i would have done it years ago!!
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Rusty6
Posted 11/7/2011 14:36 (#2037938 - in reply to #2037838)
Subject: Re: rock picker????


S.E. Sask.		I can't comment on the pto driven pickers, never having worked one. But the ground drives were good. Best of all was hydraulic drive. This old Crown hyd. drive has taken years of abuse from me and a previous owner and nothing in the hydraulics has ever given trouble. Just remember to use "float", not neutral when you want to stop the reel. Of course if you want to reverse the reel you will have to go back through neutral but its not often I have to reverse mine.
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steve5
Posted 11/7/2011 16:56 (#2038038 - in reply to #2037938)
Subject: Re: rock picker????


sw ontario		YOU "PTG 250 SPECIAL ROCK CRUSHER". THE ONE AT TOP OF PAGE (ARTHUR, ONT) CAME FROM TEXAS SOMEWHERE. IT IS EXPENSIVE TO PURCHASE, BUT IF YOU HAVE THE ACREAGE, OR CAN JUSTIFY CUSTOM WORK, IT'S AWESOME. STILL WORKS BEST WITH A ROCK RAKE OUT FRONT TO WINDROW THEM FIRST
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RodInNS
Posted 11/7/2011 17:27 (#2038072 - in reply to #2038038)
Subject: Re: rock picker????


FAE also builds those things and they are becoming more common in eastern canada. Downside is that you pretty well need the biggest Fendt you can find to run them... 300 hp and creep along. That's an expensive outfit by the time you get to the field.

Rod
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RodInNS
Posted 11/7/2011 16:57 (#2038039 - in reply to #2037679)
Subject: RE: rock picker????


Depends on how sever the problems is I guess.... Around here we use a Degleman rake then pick up the rows with a fork on a front end loader. If I had a picker I'd pick up the rows after raking. We will always have rock here no matter how often we rake. It's just the way it is.
You'll probably find that the Degleman rake is one of the better rakes... and you'll also find that it's driveline is too light...

Rod
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redgreenandrust
Posted 11/7/2011 18:35 (#2038142 - in reply to #2038039)
Subject: Re: rock picker????


thumb of michigan		Real happy with my Haybuster backsaver.
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bpreuss
Posted 11/7/2011 20:30 (#2038373 - in reply to #2037679)
Subject: Re: rock picker????


MN		migrant workers seem to do the trick
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Dave NCMO
Posted 11/7/2011 21:22 (#2038536 - in reply to #2037679)
Subject: RE: rock picker????


MO..		Northmofarm

I've got one I might sell. Guessing I'm not to far from you.
Dave
660-646-1227
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trebfms
Posted 11/7/2011 22:28 (#2038712 - in reply to #2037679)
Subject: Re: rock picker????


Central Wisconsin		There not made any more but if you can find a Gallenberg. They are the rock picker of joice in my area. http://www.tractorhouse.com/list/list.aspx?ETID=1&Manu=GALLENBERG&M...
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pat-michigan
Posted 11/8/2011 07:45 (#2039062 - in reply to #2037679)
Subject: RE: rock picker????


UP / Thumb of Michigan		Rock pickers are generally size dependant. A Harley will pick all the crushed stone in your driveway with the right screen, but is limited to about 12" stone. We had an Anderson and it worked well (with a rake ahead of it) and would pick anything I could drive our 4020 over. Worked best with the tractor wheels moved out. I've never ran a Degelman, but have always heard and read good things about them. Rented a Haybuster a couple of times, if it will work on the stone you have (seemed to like rounder stone less than a foot across), it works excellant- especially if you have scatterd stoney areas. We had some rocky knolls to pick once, liked being able to move around with the picker and attached rake so easily. Ran a Rain Plane land leveler one time, never had a better rake than that. Had quite a lot of stone windrowed up in the last pass, the Haybuster worked fine.

Anyway, never used any reel type pickers that weren't PTO drive. Sometimes it took a little adjustmant of the throttle to get just the right speed. I suppose some sort of hyd adjustmant would be possible, never thought about it.
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Beans
Posted 11/8/2011 08:05 (#2039094 - in reply to #2037679)
Subject: RE: rock picker????



N.E. North Dakota		We have had good results with our Haybuster but it won't work with cornstalks on the ground. Even year old stalks will be a problem.
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Varment
Posted 11/9/2011 01:06 (#2040713 - in reply to #2037679)
Subject: Re: rock picker????


Ontario's West Coast , Huron County		Kongskilde Stone Bear .
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