Posted 6/16/2011 23:57 (#1822231 - in reply to #1821532) Subject: Re: Rogator wheel motor
Brazilton KS
Yes, it's from the hydro system.
Funny thing is that I have two counts of advice "grease it more" and two counts of advice "don't grease it so much"...well, make that three now.
I had one leaking. I was not greasing any more then the book says. I started greasing the heck out of it and it stopped leaking.
Had the one on the other side go out, installed a new reman. Greased it more regularly then recommended and it started leaking. Now it has stopped.
Sure seems odd that after as many years as they have been at this, they can't find a way to get a motor that doesn't leak at the seal. Combine 4wd's don't do that. Excavators don't do that. Other brands of sprayers don't do that. Why should yellow ones have slobbery wheels?
Posted 6/17/2011 07:51 (#1822448 - in reply to #1822231) Subject: Re: Rogator wheel motor
Flora IL
That's very true. Well yellow ones might not anymore. They have the case kind of wheel motors or it sure looks like it. Maybe same as deere. I'm not that familiar with the deere
Posted 6/17/2011 20:12 (#1823145 - in reply to #1822448) Subject: Re: Rogator wheel motor
Belwood, Ontario
Sauer danfos motors and bondfigioli power hubs on the 9's and 11's, rexroth motors on the 13's, with power hubs, but different ratios than the deere.
My customers that never grease the wheel motors, I almost never have to reseal them. The guys that grease them all the time, I'm there more often.
1 shot of grease every 100 hrs or so when they are warm is about right
Posted 6/17/2011 22:34 (#1823343 - in reply to #1823145) Subject: Re: Rogator wheel motor
My 854 has over 5,000 hrs and to the best of my knowledge it has original wheel motors. The previous owner greased the motors with about 6 shots of grease every time the fuel tank was filled. I do the same. That seems to be excessive based on what you described.
I worked for a retailer for 13 years that purchased predominately Ag-Chem equipment in my tenure there. The 854 that I remember needing one wheel motor after another at about 4,000 hrs wasn't greased very often. The 1254 that was an absolute lemon shucked wheel motors left and right from new, among other problems. The service tech claimed that they needed to be greased every day to prevent failure.
I guess I'm kind of with plowboy on this...it seems that everyone has their own idea as to what keeps a yellow wheel motor from leaking, but no one knows for sure.
Posted 6/18/2011 08:15 (#1823734 - in reply to #1823343) Subject: Re: Rogator wheel motor
Belwood, Ontario
all that greasing does is provide a barrier to the seal, you arent lubricating anyhting, over greasing makes a mess and if you put to much in it sometimes lifts or rolls the seal. Power greasers are also really bad in this app.
Posted 6/18/2011 09:13 (#1823813 - in reply to #1823734) Subject: Re: Rogator wheel motor
I knew it didn't lube anything, I just assumed it kept the seal from drying out. I sure I hope I didn't jinx myself. lol. Maybe I'll back off a little. I can't imagine never greasing it. Is the seal a field serviceable item? Or do you recommend a rebuilt motor at the time of seal replacement?
Posted 6/18/2011 09:39 (#1823847 - in reply to #1823813) Subject: Re: Rogator wheel motor
Belwood, Ontario
resealed hudreds of them in guys yards, just takes a few hrs, and costs way less than a reman.
Any boom motion function will reset the breakaway circuit, on 97 and newer, 96 and 95 is a different animal
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