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stxman
Posted 5/19/2011 21:22 (#1782253)
Subject: Morton vs. Wick Buildings


Looking at putting up a new shop, have it narrowed down to the two different buildings Morton and Wick. Both buildings are of equal size, same doors, etc. Morton has a little better warranty but is also a little higher on price. Morton claims their steel is better (it is a little thicker, but softer) Wick claims their steel is best. So I'm stuck and not sure which direction to go. What has your experience been with either company or both it you happen to have a building from both companies. The buildings both companies have built in the area all seem to done really nice.
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Minor Family Farms
Posted 5/19/2011 21:55 (#1782317 - in reply to #1782253)
Subject: Re: Morton vs. Wick Buildings


Kingston, Ohio
Morton. Built one a year ago and they do it right. Some Mortons around here are over 40 years old and still look good. Excellent customer service, if there is ever a problem they will be out the same week.
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dakota
Posted 5/19/2011 23:05 (#1782510 - in reply to #1782253)
Subject: RE: Morton vs. Wick Buildings



SC North Dakota
Anything but a morton.
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farmer2424
Posted 5/19/2011 23:21 (#1782563 - in reply to #1782510)
Subject: RE: Morton vs. Wick Buildings


southeast nebraska
X2
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5288
Posted 5/19/2011 23:35 (#1782592 - in reply to #1782563)
Subject: Re: Morton vs. Wick Buildings


S.E. South Dakota
Why does Morton get such a bad rap?I have two Morton buildings that dad put up 30 years ago and have been very good.I will say i have not looked or priced a building.
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dakota
Posted 5/20/2011 06:30 (#1782749 - in reply to #1782592)
Subject: Re: Morton vs. Wick Buildings



SC North Dakota
If you've heard of lemons, mine is the lemon of buildings. No response from the company. Bad deal all around. Anybody is welcome to come look.
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rasttus
Posted 5/20/2011 07:04 (#1782771 - in reply to #1782749)
Subject: Re: Morton vs. Wick Buildings


central Illinois
x3 anything but morton
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gene_champ
Posted 5/20/2011 07:48 (#1782821 - in reply to #1782253)
Subject: Morton Buildings, why not???


NC Iowa
why not tell just what some of the problems are? i just ordered one. i would like to know if there is something i should look out for. looking for some reasons to say 'anything but morton' and 'x2'
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TORQUE
Posted 5/20/2011 08:08 (#1782848 - in reply to #1782253)
Subject: RE: Morton vs. Wick Buildings


SC Iowa
I ordered a Wick 60'x70', compared Morton and some others. Morton was 30% more money and some of it was 2x4's and Wick was 2x6's. A friend bought a Morton 4 years ago and likes it but ordered a Wick this time, less money and just as well constructed. Morton uses soft steel so they can nail it, Wick steel must be screwed, too hard to put a nail through it.
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rasttus
Posted 5/20/2011 08:12 (#1782854 - in reply to #1782848)
Subject: Re: Morton vs. Wick Buildings


central Illinois
Years ago we had a morton built. Steel started rusting within 7 years, they never did anything with it. Since we have built 2 wick buildings and 1 all steel building. Wick building are just as good or better as far as im concerned.
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He-mann
Posted 5/20/2011 08:16 (#1782857 - in reply to #1782854)
Subject: Re: Morton vs. Wick Buildings


North Central Iowa
We have a wick that was built in 1980 and still looks good and is solid. I would build a wick again.
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stxman
Posted 5/20/2011 08:43 (#1782904 - in reply to #1782848)
Subject: RE: Morton vs. Wick Buildings


TORQUE - 5/20/2011 08:08
Morton uses soft steel so they can nail it, Wick steel must be screwed, too hard to put a nail through it.


Both companies would be using stainless screws, Morton using internal drive, Wick using external drive.
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Galaxie64
Posted 5/20/2011 09:33 (#1782986 - in reply to #1782253)
Subject: Re: Morton vs. Wick Buildings


WY, OK
I think Morton's buildings are fine but we can't afford their warranty, Final quote we had from them, after raising the price every single time, was around $45K more than what we went with and Morton was $35K more than Cleary who has a pretty much identical warranty.
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peteh057
Posted 5/20/2011 10:25 (#1783055 - in reply to #1782253)
Subject: Re: Morton vs. Wick Buildings


Wick buildings are dealership network. Morton Buildings is a construction company. One of the local Wick dealers in NC Kansas really did a poor job and put a bad rap on Wick. Morton uses a commercial grade 26 guage steel. Wick uses a lighter hi-tensile steel which is more brittle due to the addtional carbon. Both use screws if desired. Wick warranties are pass through warranties from the product manufacturer and likely do not cover labor. Morton warranties non-prorated materials and labor for the life of the warranty. Morton does not warranty against stupidity. I suggest Morton as the way to go. If some of you fellas with troubles would call the Morton customer service dept. I think you might be satisfied with the attention you receive.
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dakota
Posted 5/20/2011 18:12 (#1783520 - in reply to #1783055)
Subject: Re: Morton vs. Wick Buildings



SC North Dakota
I have been down that road. The guy they sent out to fix my problems said he did all that was going to be done. Told him there was not a final inspection with me and was told it was done. No warranty whatsoever. Talked to the original salesman and was told he got fired over my project. Talked to his boss, he said he knew I was very unhappy and disatisfied but no offer to correct anything. Invited him to stop by and take a look at it anytime he cared to. Have not seen or heard anybody or anything from morton. I feel I have done my part and to work with them. My opinion remains the same. Stay away from morton.
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FFJR
Posted 5/20/2011 11:54 (#1783137 - in reply to #1782253)
Subject: RE: Morton vs. Wick Buildings



nc IA
This is from 10 years ago, 2001/2002 era.

Morton 48' wide standard farm machine shed vs Wick 50' wide standard machine shed. Both used laminated 3 member 2x6's for columns. trusses and columns on the morton were 7.5' on center, wick was 9' on center. Trusses had the same dimensional top and bottom cords between the two buildings, morton had one extra "web" within the truss then Wick and the truss heel was double bolted far enough apart (due to the heal of the truss being wider) not to require knee braces for wind loading. both were around 16' tall.

steel can be screwed or nailed, as stated above, internal drive stainless screw for morton, wick used then a external drive stainless capped screw (shank was still carbon steel, note, morton does have the first 1/4" of the screw as carbon steel to heat treat it so it self taps through the steel, the main body and head are completely stainless.) EDIT: advantage of a internal drive screw is the paint the chips from driving it in with a drill is hidden, on a external you can see that paint missing, and if it isn't a stainless screw thats where rust will start and be visable first.)

Morton steel is "softer", a commercial grade steel, that is a 26 gauge, at the time Wicks was a "full hard" (ie more brittle) 29 gauge. Advantage of the "softer" steel is look at some steel that has been rolled by each company, get a one dollar magnifying glass and focus in on the rib, you will see severe cracking in the paint coating on the full hard steel that has the sharp bends for the ribs, most likely even see the steel showing through underneath it. The softer steel flexes easier without cracking and the smooth radius ofthe rib stresses the paint less and leads to less craking in the paint coating. This is why long term you will typically see rust start at the ribs first on buildings.

Morton fastens steel on top of the ribs vs in the flats of the steel, granted the screws must be longer, but then 30 years from now if the washer fails, where is the majority of the water running on the roof? in the flats, so it thereby aids long term in preventing leaks. Also - take a piece of paper, place your finger on it in the center and try to lift up all around it - easy to do right? Now crease the paper as if it had a rib in the center - looks like this: _/\_ place your finger on the rib and try to lift up from each end - it's more difficult - so why fasten on the flats when you transmit the most holding power through the ribs?


I did work at Morton 10 years ago, but put up my first building using a local contractor and lumber yard materials a few years later. The key thing I did was spec out the building materials and construction methods to my standards. Biggest issue with ANY building is knowing the crew and the quality of work they do, Morton has good crews, and not so good crews. If you have a warrenty issue - call to the home office if the local isn't addressing it - that SHOULD help matters.


The first thing I look at when evaluating a building that was put up is the soffit / eave / endwall transition area, along with any overhead door trims, it is the most technical spot to trim out on a building. it's the quickst way that I've found to judge the overall craftmanship of a building crew and the trim options and shapes available to the crew.

Edited by FFJR 5/20/2011 11:56
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gene_champ
Posted 5/21/2011 22:16 (#1785196 - in reply to #1783137)
Subject: RE: Morton vs. Wick Buildings


NC Iowa
i am going with morton for a shop building. i am sure the crew makes a big difference in the construction. i intend to have it inspected before signing off on it and final payment. always easier to get little things fixed if they don't have all the money yet. i am well aquainted with a top morton sales guy in another area. i am checking with him to make sure of how things are suppose to be done.
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RickB
Posted 5/20/2011 17:45 (#1783489 - in reply to #1782253)
Subject: RE: Morton vs. Wick Buildings



Lincoln County. NC
I have a small Wick building about 7 years old that I am thrilled with. Morton would not return my calls, as things were booming when I built. As stated, Wick are built by independent contractors, mine was great, check yours out carefully.
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