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jdg
Posted 6/17/2010 22:45 (#1241178)
Subject: Building a hay rack for small squares


Cen IL		Planning on a 18' long bed. Unsure on width. What I really need to know is what would the proper wheelbase be. Don't want to much bed behind the rear axle, nor to little. I am thinking somewhere around 12' 6" . Any experienced rack builders on here tonite ? TIA jeff
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paul the original
Posted 6/17/2010 22:53 (#1241194 - in reply to #1241178)
Subject: Re: Building a hay rack for small squares


southern MN		My experience is redecking one of dad's racks, and just helped a friend build one 2 days ago, we got it 1/2 inch off square. So.....

We go 16x8 here. I have 30-32 inches from the center of the axle to the end of the rack.

--->Paul
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iseedit
Posted 6/17/2010 22:57 (#1241203 - in reply to #1241178)
Subject: RE: Building a hay rack for small squares



central - east central Minnesota -

If I recall, the beds we built, were on 8 ton wagon gear with 16ft of bed x 9ft wide. We like to stack 3 bales wide. The overhang behind the gear was around 3' to 4' IIRC.

I've seen some pretty good bargins on craigslist for truck flat decks w/runners, that had plenty of life in them - for cheap $200 - $400 bucks. Maybe a consideration?

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JoshuaGA
Posted 6/17/2010 23:09 (#1241222 - in reply to #1241178)
Subject: RE: Building a hay rack for small squares



Sumner GA, Located in southwest GA,		I would go ahead and build 20' minimum. If you now or in the future have plans to accumulate small squares, with my system, 20' bed would give you 3 stacks and a bit of wiggleroom. Just a thought. My 16' flatbed hangs back about a foot to foot and a half over the edge of the rear tire, bit more to the front, old silage wagon.
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KDD
Posted 6/17/2010 23:51 (#1241302 - in reply to #1241178)
Subject: Re: Building a hay rack for small squares



Leesburg, Ohio		Hand stacking, 18' gives room for five tiers instead of just four. 20' would maybe let you get 6 tiers on.

Our 18's have about 3 to 4' hanging over the back, and about 2' in the front. One is only about 2' in the back.
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squish
Posted 6/18/2010 00:42 (#1241365 - in reply to #1241178)
Subject: Re: Building a hay rack for small squares


NE Indiana		We have 5, 18 footers. I'll try to remember to measure them for you tomorrow.
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squish
Posted 6/22/2010 19:19 (#1246847 - in reply to #1241365)
Subject: Re: Building a hay rack for small squares


NE Indiana		Our 18 footers are 12' 6" wheelbase. 28" sticking out the front.
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shoop
Posted 6/18/2010 00:51 (#1241369 - in reply to #1241178)
Subject: RE: Building a hay rack for small squares


M		go 9 feet wide more bales and not as many steps to fill a load
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Tommy
Posted 6/18/2010 04:40 (#1241413 - in reply to #1241178)
Subject: RE: Doesn't really matter within reason


Iowa		couple of feet of overhang in the front, maybe 3 feet at the back---what DOES matter is that all your racks are the same distance from the front of the rack to the bale chute. Figure out what works best so you can't harm the chute, and then you can fine-tune this distance with either wheelbase or tongue length
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Matt neoh
Posted 6/18/2010 05:23 (#1241416 - in reply to #1241413)
Subject: RE: Doesn't really matter within reason


better yet the distance from the front of the rack to the hitch pin hole. Think mine are 58-60''
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Tommy
Posted 6/18/2010 08:27 (#1241529 - in reply to #1241416)
Subject: RE: Doesn't really matter within reason


Iowa		Different way of saying EXACTLY the same thing.
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NoTill1825
Posted 6/18/2010 07:35 (#1241476 - in reply to #1241413)
Subject: RE: Doesn't really matter within reason


NC Indiana		Same size makes it easier on the guy loading too. Once loaded for a guy w/ 3 6 stack wagons on NH3 gears and then had 2 4 stack wagons. All were pulled by a select-o-speed Ford. You'd bust your rear to keep up on the big wagons and get use to that, then turn around and fall of the little wagons if you didn't remember it was shorter back to the front.
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rambo
Posted 6/18/2010 08:04 (#1241509 - in reply to #1241178)
Subject: Re: Building a hay rack for small squares



Remsen, Iowa		I set mine to 2 foot overhang front and back.
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OMC260
Posted 6/18/2010 08:44 (#1241545 - in reply to #1241178)
Subject: RE: Building a hay rack for small squares


Sioux Center, Iowa		If your hand stacking, be sure to tie the bed down to the front bolster. Remember when I was a kid on a couple occasions with the back tier filled, we were suddenly going uphill.
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Iowa Quality Hay
Posted 6/18/2010 09:57 (#1241626 - in reply to #1241178)
Subject: Re: Building a hay rack for small squares



Grabill, Indiana		All of our new wagons are 20' x 8' 4" (or so). That gives us flexibility on capacity, if we only need to put 100 bales on it you only stack 4 tiers high, if you need to you can put a lot of bales on a 20' wagon. The old 14 and 16 footers are just too limiting and the stackers put themselves in awkward/dangerous positions to fill the wagons, you can easily keep a standing area on a 20' wagon without huritng capacity.

We had a 18 x 10 wagon when we farmed in Iowa, while the capacity was nice the width was a challenge, stay with a 8 - 9 foot wide wagon for ease of mind.

Jim
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BRIAN
Posted 6/18/2010 16:25 (#1241978 - in reply to #1241178)
Subject: RE: Building a hay rack for small squares


Graymont Illinois

Jeff, cannot help on the rack size. But when I was 5 years old , my dad tells me when he had some high school kids helping bale hay. Neighbor was running the tractor/baler.

The rack was near full, so just a small area for the kids to stand at the front of the rack.

Driver must have pushed in the clutch then took off, anyway the kid fell off and the near full rack ran over him length wise. Weight must have shifted.

Dad said he went to the hospital and all he had wrong was a broken nose but he said the kid still had wheel tread marks on his forehead.

This was nw of Colfax. Good thing dad hired those tough Lexington kids :>)

 

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jdg
Posted 6/18/2010 22:31 (#1242326 - in reply to #1241178)
Subject: RE: Building a hay rack for small squares


Cen IL		Thanks guys for the help. Looks like maybe 2.5 feet from rear axle centerline to back of rack. 60 " from hitch pin hole to front of rack. thanks jeff
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tater1086
Posted 6/18/2010 23:37 (#1242469 - in reply to #1241178)
Subject: Re: Building a hay rack for small squares


Snipesville, GA		Different situation but we stack hay on old 40' cotton wagons. We use accumulators and grapples. Less work by hand and more with hyd. machinery.
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