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John Burns
Posted 2/27/2007 12:21 (#111935)
Subject: Rephasing hydraulic cylinders on implements



Pittsburg, Kansas

I need a 3.25' x 12" stroke 1.25" shaft hydraulic cylinder rephasing style with 1" pins. It is on a JD 980 field cultivator wing and Deere wants $440 for it. We have rebuilt it once with no luck (leaks down). Looks like it ought to cost about a couple hundred bucks.

Does anyone have a good source for rephasing style cylinders?

It looks like Shoup or Sloan Express or someone ought to stock these along with their regular cylinders. Should be a good demand as nearly every folding farm implement uses them these days. The rephasing style should cost only slightly more than a regular cylinder and a farm supply store price would probably be better than rebuilding the original ones.

We have replaced them in the past using the tie rod style instead of the ones with the wire retainer and they work fine as long as the bore, stroke, and rod diameter are the same. It has been so long ago I have forgotten where we got them and though some of you might have a good supplier. Prince, Cross and others make them. 

 John

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John Burns
Posted 2/27/2007 12:34 (#111943 - in reply to #111935)
Subject: Baum Hydraulics



Pittsburg, Kansas

To answer my own question I just found that Baum Hydraulics has Prince rephasing cylinders in 8, 12, and 16" strokes in stock. The 3.25x12 was $229 so I ordered one.

They do not however carry a 10 stroke rephasing and I am going to be in need of some of those in the future because that is what Sunflower 1433 discs use so if anyone knows of another source I would appreciate it. The cylinder clevis and pins are worn so much that the end of the clevis was rubbing on the curved axle tube wearing the outside end and flexing the clevis till it broke it off at the threads. If you have a Sunflower 1433 disk with quite a few acres you might want to check this area. Had I replaced the pin or the clevis end it would not have happened.

John



Edited by John Burns 2/27/2007 12:37
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JohnW
Posted 2/27/2007 12:42 (#111951 - in reply to #111943)
Subject: Bailey Hydraulics


NW Washington
Bailey Hydraulics is another source of hydraulic cylinders who also make custom cylinders. http://www.baileynet.com/
The Surplus Center in Nebraska has quite a few different hydraulic cylinders in stock too, and their prices are usually good. http://www.surpluscenter.com
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plowboy
Posted 2/27/2007 19:52 (#112122 - in reply to #111943)
Subject: RE: Baum Hydraulics



Brazilton KS

John,  I'm guessing you can buy a 12" from Baum and take it to Payne's and about $40 and an hour or so later you can have a 10" stroke.    I could do it but frankly I'd be more expensive and wouldn't do as good a job. 

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John Burns
Posted 2/28/2007 00:31 (#112282 - in reply to #112122)
Subject: RE: Baum Hydraulics



Pittsburg, Kansas

I can see the barell being cut off prety easily but wouldn't it take a little time to shorten the shaft and thread it? 2 extra inches of shaft might cause a problem with the wing depth adjustment (although I have not measured the colapsed length - they might be the same). Might be an alternative though.

John



Edited by John Burns 2/28/2007 00:32
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plowboy
Posted 2/28/2007 09:40 (#112388 - in reply to #112282)
Subject: RE: Baum Hydraulics



Brazilton KS
Cutting threads takes time for me.  Seems to be pretty simple for them.   Something about knowing what you are doing and having modern equipment I think. 
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dri
Posted 2/27/2007 21:03 (#112172 - in reply to #111935)
Subject: RE: Burdens Surplus, Lincoln NE


Central Mo
Give them a call, seems they have about anything if you ask them.
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John Burns
Posted 2/28/2007 00:34 (#112284 - in reply to #112172)
Subject: RE: Burdens Surplus, Lincoln NE



Pittsburg, Kansas

They were my first shot but they don't stock any new rephasing cylinders and are pretty well out of the surplus ones they used to have - only a few sizes left.

John 

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dri
Posted 2/28/2007 08:17 (#112352 - in reply to #112284)
Subject: RE: Burdens Surplus, Lincoln NE


Central Mo

We made our 30' anhydrous tool bar several years ago, got the phasing cyl from them, same ones used on the 220 deere disks, I think they were 45 each. 

Haven't ordered anything in awhile, would like to find some 16" phasing cyls for a 3 pt pull package for a ripper.

Good Luck

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