May be closin a deal on a the new gleaner flex draper. Its a little nerve wrackin to say the least when we have never been able to see one out workin or even on a dealers lot. Those of you that have seen it or even better seen it in the field what was your thoughts. To the McDon guys that will be bashin the head we would love a mcdon but the fact that u got to remove the lateral tilt for the head is a major issue we have to keep the latteral tilt for the corn head in our area.
Posted 12/24/2009 17:41 (#984045 - in reply to #983963) Subject: RE: Gleaner Flex Draper
n.w. iowa
rcfynrdt - 12/24/2009 16:02
May be closin a deal on a the new gleaner flex draper. Its a little nerve wrackin to say the least when we have never been able to see one out workin or even on a dealers lot. Those of you that have seen it or even better seen it in the field what was your thoughts. To the McDon guys that will be bashin the head we would love a mcdon but the fact that u got to remove the lateral tilt for the head is a major issue we have to keep the latteral tilt for the corn head in our area.
Thanks
Eric
Don't you just have to shut off the lateral tilt,( conture master) instead of removing it?
Posted 12/24/2009 18:13 (#984104 - in reply to #984045) Subject: Re: Gleaner Flex Draper
EC North Dakota
Hope you never have to harvest soys in snow and freezing weather. Neighbor has IH draper and had to rent regular flex head as draper built up with snow and mud of rollers and would not work. Works great when things are good going but we are finding more problems in wet tough conditions.
Posted 12/24/2009 19:45 (#984244 - in reply to #984104) Subject: Re: Gleaner Flex Draper
West Kentucky
Properly adjusted draper head will work better in muddy conditions then a conventional flex header everytime. I can't imagine anything works in the snow though.
Posted 12/24/2009 20:19 (#984273 - in reply to #984130) Subject: Re: Gleaner Flex Draper
Ks
We just put an FD70 on an R for bean harvest. You don't have to remove Lateral tilt with the MacDon. We had to cut some of the guide plate off on the left side for the quick latch to work.
Posted 12/24/2009 21:41 (#984334 - in reply to #984319) Subject: Re: Gleaner Flex Draper
central MN
Ran a challenger 670 B with the AGCO flex draper on about 40 acres loved it once then got it set. First time that it had been in beans, had 3 product specialist's out with it, only took them 2 hrs to get it set so they would let me drive the combine. Works good 55 bu beans at 3.8-4 mph with no slugging or rumble of rotor. You will love it.
Posted 12/24/2009 22:26 (#984397 - in reply to #984334) Subject: Re: Gleaner Flex Draper
Ontario Canada
I had heard that you have to lineup the driveshafts exactly the same on both sides so it will run the head in time, there is supposed to be a lineup mark on it so you get it right, is this true or not and seems like alot more to adjust moreso then the standard flexhead, we run an air reel on an 8200 with some modified skid shoes and we can do everybit as good a job without any slug feeding, i can't see the extra expense and maintaince, sure would like to try one and know for sure though.
Posted 12/25/2009 01:50 (#984649 - in reply to #984435) Subject: Re: Gleaner Flex Draper
SE ND
The timing of the driveshafts is for the dual sickle drive, they are shaft driven and when you keep them in time they run really smoooooooth. A dual belt driven setup goes in and out of "time" so it will shake alot at some times. Neighbor ran a 40ft on an R-76, he was impressed and from what I saw it looked good.
Posted 12/25/2009 10:34 (#984921 - in reply to #984649) Subject: Shaft drive sickle
So does that sickle drive run through a slip clutch?
If it does wouldn't that allow it to get out of time just like a belt does?
If it doesn't run through a slip clutch of any sort I think it could be pretty hard on the sickle if you found any metal debris out in the field. If you were lucky all that would break would be sections and guards.
Posted 12/25/2009 07:15 (#984710 - in reply to #984435) Subject: Re: Gleaner Flex Draper
Ontario Canada
We have a new skid shoe on it, took off the old ones and changed to these smaller ones, gives us lots more flex and cuts much lower, really shaves the ground, if interested call 1-866-744-2944 and ask for John, he is the man responsible for everything, they do work great and he has a kit that he sells for Gleaner heads.
Posted 12/25/2009 01:53 (#984652 - in reply to #984319) Subject: Re: Gleaner Flex Draper
Ks
This was on a new r-76, it took soom time to get the auto height to work right and still can't get enough reel speed with it but the hookup was painless.
Posted 12/25/2009 08:07 (#984732 - in reply to #984652) Subject: Re: Gleaner Flex Draper
n.w. iowa
I was able to replace a sprocket to speed up my reel speed, this was on a mac don but I would think you could on this one also. It was located in the center where the 2 reels come together.
Posted 12/25/2009 11:35 (#985044 - in reply to #984732) Subject: Re: Gleaner Flex Draper
EC WisconsiN
We were trying to decide between a MacDon and the new Dynaflex. In the end we went with the new Dynaflex...30' head. Some of the issues we had or seen were...MacDon guys wouldn't trade our 8200 head in...the narrow throat on the R made us wonder if problems would arise with it. The more literature and info we found about the Dynaflex the more we liked what we saw. We used to always get the SCH guards and sections...but we never really liked them. We are ordering the new one with the Condex one...Agco even says you can cut 1 mph faster with them than the SCH. Standard on the dynaflex now is hydraulic header tilt...to tilt the cutterbar. This just came out last week, and that was kind of the last nail in the coffin for us to decide. But the biggest thing is....depending on head size is actual delivery of it. The 30 foot heads won't be startin to be made until June 1st...we start wheat harvest in middle of July so it should be a close call.
Posted 12/25/2009 12:12 (#985120 - in reply to #985044) Subject: Re: Gleaner Flex Draper
just curious what do they want for a 30 ft and why not try a 35 if they are priced close together. Im debating about the same head havent got any prices yet though. What mods do you half to add to the combine to run it too for hydraulics?
Posted 12/25/2009 12:29 (#985151 - in reply to #985120) Subject: Re: Gleaner Flex Draper
EC WisconsiN
As far as I know...nothing for the hydralics. There is a cab control that goes in the combine to control those functions. We had a 25 ft auger head and now got the 30 foot draper. 35 foot is just to big right now for the combine...especially in wheat. Have an R66. I have the price sheet at home...but I think it was 15,000 more than a 30 foot auger head w/ a crary air reel on it.
Posted 12/25/2009 12:32 (#985157 - in reply to #985044) Subject: Re: Gleaner Flex Draper
My concern on the new Gleaner flex header is all the open bevel gears running the rollers. A very high speed for open bevel gears, I would think they won't get many hours on them before they are growling pretty bad and need replacing. Also how many bearings are on those cross shafts. I thought 5 were bad enough in the G days. I bought a MacDon in 08 and I know it isn't the perfect thing but the Gleaner flex was only in final trials then. It will be interesting in the next few years to see if I should have waited or not. Both heads have their good and bad points. Wish I could take the two and make one, I'd have the prefect flex head!
Gleaner Flex Draper
