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Fla Veggie Farmer

Posted 12/27/2006 02:02 (#79128)
Subject: ??? on 7730 JD's

Southeast Florida

I'm going to look really hard at what options and stuff is available on this tractor and ask a lot of questions too since I'm now out of the mainstream of new equipment every season.
I'm asking about a 7730 since it's got the 6.8L engine I'm supposing it's with a regular turbo and none of this variable geometry non since. My ole 4440 does the job most of the time but notice I said most of the time. I need mfwd and we've talked about buying 4455's, 7810's, 72 and 89 MAGNUM's. Due to my location on the globe It doesn't make since like plowboy said to send half of a tractor 2K miles across the ocean with the cost of freight.
I need something with lots of 3-point lift "rear 14,000 lb. cap. 3-point hitch (Category 3/3N) with Quik-Coupler... more"
The draw bar will probably never get used so the heavy duty option isn't required.
The hydraulic requirements are running a Dickey John granular applicator unless Deere offers this with the GreenStar package now. I know with the 8 & 9000 and 8 & 9X20 series there whats called plug and play for the Trimble laser and GPS systems requiring no additional valve.
The transmission is where the real confusion comes in. I want it as simple as possible again due to my location. This is what sound's the best so far Transmissions, "19 mph PowrQuad PLUS™ 16/16... more" I don't need high road speed but I do need to be able to shift from F/R easily like the shuttle shift shown. The main question here is when we're F/R the motion need to be slow and the tractor have enough power to turn around over mounds that's produced from laying plastic. There is a person riding the back of this machine. I remember my 8220's in FL would do this because when they went from F to R they'd stay in the last gear used which was usually R2 and F7. The 4440 is horrible at this since we're using C range in the transmission. Will the 7730 do like the 8X20's would shifting F to R?
I think I'm reading this right the 1150 series front axle is optional without the ILS junk? We had 8520's in FL and they stayed broke down.
Tires option is the next ? here I don't need a lot of ground clearance just traction, load carrying capacity, single tires on 60" row centers and short turning radius with a maximum of an 18.4 tread width.
I will be getting what ever tractor we decide on with RTK autosteer.
I will not be the operator, I have all 3rd world immigrants here because that's all that'll show up for work regularly no matter how much money is offered, so all of the luxury items aren't wanted by the farm. If JD offers an additional cab filter that would be a must with the dust we have here.

Badger

Posted 12/27/2006 07:48 (#79156 - in reply to #79128)
Subject: RE: ??? on 7730 JD's

Huntley Montana

I'd say you need a 7810/20, but the air conditioner filters are a BAD joke. If you don't need a 540 pto I'd look into a 4555-4960 for a good bullet proof Deere. But with the Labor market your dealing with the 71xx-72xx CIH might be the answer. I still run tractor some days, so I want Deere's & in My area the CNH dealers are just sales lots.

Your asking for a lot of lift on the 3pt. My 8x10s JD's bearly have that amount. 4455's are 5000# & 1000# per lift assist cly.

RICK NCMD

Posted 12/27/2006 11:41 (#79247 - in reply to #79128)
Subject: Re: ??? on 7730 JD's

Go red George, the 72s were far better than the 89s. I dont know how scarce the creeper tranny is, but a good red mechanic can put that option in just about any magnum. As far as third world operators, we have proven the magnum to be very succesful at this. Are cummins parts more availible then JD engine parts over there, just one more thing to consider? The magnum has a pretty reliable three point system as long as its used on a regular basis. The 89 series will offer a tighter turning radius than a 72. I would be more than happy to donate my mechancal abillities to the cause come about mid-february.

Virginia Veg.

Posted 12/27/2006 18:48 (#79350 - in reply to #79128)
Subject: RE: ??? on 7730 JD's

Eastern VA. No such thing as too many Magnums.

Good grief George,
It was hard to tell if your post was a question or a documentary. Ha ha. I think you're right option 1150 is the heavy duty front axle without any suspension. And I know you can get that 14,000 lb lift on a 7730. There are a lot of 7820s 7920s between here and GA with around 200 hrs on them. So they'd have warranty, but I don't know how they're set up. Don't get the command arm with migrants. Stick with the mechanical remote valves. I know what you mean about the left hand reverser. I don't think you're gonna like it as much as the 8000 series, where you could select the default reverse and forward gears. On the power quads, reverse is a little faster than whatever forward speed you were already in. So if you're laying plastic in C4, reverse is gonna be fast as hell. Maybe the driver can just click into A range when he hits the reverser on the column. We go slow when crossing the ends too. I don't need any amigos falling down into the Kennco rollers. Good luck with your search. If you get new ones are you going to order them from Pringle?

JoshA

Posted 12/28/2006 18:12 (#79788 - in reply to #79128)
Subject: RE: ??? on 7730 JD's

Alberta, Canada

Yikes, not much I can help ya with on this one, however you're right on the front axle.

Front axle options on the 7030LFs include:
2wd
1100 MFWD -- base front axle
1150 MFWD -- heavy duty standard front axle
1150 MFWD with TLS II -- heavy front axle with Triple Link Suspension
1150 MFWD with TLS II, diff lock & front brakes -- heavy front axle with suspension and brakes, comes with the 31 mph transport option.

On my 7630 I ordered it with the 1150 front axle without suspension, having had a TM with front axle problems I think it's good to have, rather than worry about it later, especially with having a loader.

As for your concern on proper speeds for forward and reverse, if you don't want to go to IVT, would you AutoQuad Plus be a better choice than the PowerQuad Plus? I believe this would help keep the same speed/rpm when shuttle shifting.

As for the left hand reverser vs right hand, only with IVT do you have the option of right hand reverser, on the CommandArm. For a field tractor I'd like this idea, as it's the same with a hydrostatic, you slow it down to neutral, then pull it back in reverse. Again, only with IVT.

Right Hand IVT

IVT with Left Hand Reverser

Good luck, what ever you decide on.
-Josh

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