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ks8780
Posted 12/6/2024 19:54 (#10998601)
Subject: MF 5200 What's it worth



Jewell County KS		I have a 5200 tractor that a gentleman has some interest in buying. I am not sure I will sell but also do not know what it may be worth.

Maybe 4000 hrs without looking for sure. My Dad and I have owned it since 1994 or so. 390hp 60 series Detroit and Twin Disc powershift. 24.5x32 inside and 18.4x38 duals radials. Needs paint and interior.

Now here's the deal. Serial number 5650 00 0000 which I believe is a prototype before production. Looking at how the tractor is built mostly confirms my thoughts on this. Also at one time while researching this tractor a dealer told me that this tractor was not supposed to be sold to the public.

Here are a couple poor pics that I have on my phone.

Thanks for any info.



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DJ
Posted 12/6/2024 19:59 (#10998616 - in reply to #10998601)
Subject: RE: MF 5200 What's it worth


Central Illinois		i would do a lot more research.
this could be a diamond in the rough
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Dave9110
Posted 12/6/2024 20:11 (#10998638 - in reply to #10998601)
Subject: RE: MF 5200 What's it worth



north-central Indiana west of Fulton		Sounds interesting, but more information is needed. Current condition…….is it running, has is been used recently, has it been stored inside ?
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ks8780
Posted 12/6/2024 20:23 (#10998653 - in reply to #10998638)
Subject: RE: MF 5200 What's it worth



Jewell County KS		Running and in use. Not stored inside but pictures are what it is. Like I said needs paint and interior. Slow A/C leak We farmed with it for several years but no-till has really slowed down the use.

I have tried to find more info but there just isn't much out there
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Dave9110
Posted 12/6/2024 20:51 (#10998691 - in reply to #10998653)
Subject: RE: MF 5200 What's it worth



north-central Indiana west of Fulton		Could be a desirable find for the right collector. Would be interested to hear from a Massey expert to know if there is more information available.
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DougG
Posted 12/6/2024 20:24 (#10998657 - in reply to #10998638)
Subject: RE: MF 5200 What's it worth


Those are very rare ,,nice item there,,
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CMCC
Posted 12/6/2024 21:00 (#10998696 - in reply to #10998601)
Subject: RE: MF 5200 What's it worth


West Central Indiana		I believe one sold at Ted Everett auction near me today.

I’ll try to ask someone this weekend if they know what it brought.
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terrynky
Posted 12/6/2024 21:10 (#10998711 - in reply to #10998696)
Subject: RE: MF 5200 What's it worth


It brought 59k I beleive.
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eawilliams
Posted 12/6/2024 21:24 (#10998724 - in reply to #10998711)
Subject: RE: MF 5200 What's it worth


South Central Indiana		What did the MF 4900 bring from same farm?
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senorthdakota
Posted 12/6/2024 21:28 (#10998727 - in reply to #10998724)
Subject: RE: MF 5200 What's it worth


I believe that was the last model produced before turned into agcostar..
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GM Guy
Posted 12/8/2024 02:44 (#11000115 - in reply to #10998727)
Subject: RE: MF 5200 What's it worth


NW KS/ SC ID
senorthdakota - 12/6/2024 20:28

I believe that was the last model produced before turned into agcostar..

McConnell Marc was last before agcostar. had the rabas instead of the MF bar axle.
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jdbob8100
Posted 12/9/2024 11:47 (#11001966 - in reply to #11000115)
Subject: RE: MF 5200 What's it worth


ND		The 4800 thro 4900 were very good looking tractors. I worked for a White/MF dealer back in 1979 to almost 1982 and we sold quite a few 4840's & a few 4880. Nice big cabs. After I left I think MF had some trouble with the Transmission's as the dealer I was at Fergus Falls, Mn was big repair facility for these issues for a wider area.
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terrynky
Posted 12/6/2024 21:29 (#10998728 - in reply to #10998724)
Subject: RE: MF 5200 What's it worth


I believe 33-34k ish.
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WTW
Posted 12/6/2024 21:50 (#10998747 - in reply to #10998601)
Subject: RE: MF 5200 What's it worth


Winkler, Manitoba Canada
ks8780 - 12/6/2024 18:54

Now here's the deal. Serial number 5650 00 0000 which I believe is a prototype before production. Looking at how the tractor is built mostly confirms my thoughts on this. Also at one time while researching this tractor a dealer told me that this tractor was not supposed to be sold to the public.



Did the 5200 ever actually reach production status? I don't believe Agco has a parts listing online for the 5200 tractor. That seems strange for a production unit...probably not more than a handful ever made.

Edited by WTW 12/6/2024 21:51
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ks8780
Posted 12/6/2024 22:03 (#10998763 - in reply to #10998747)
Subject: RE: MF 5200 What's it worth



Jewell County KS
WTW - 12/6/2024 21:50

ks8780 - 12/6/2024 18:54

Now here's the deal. Serial number 5650 00 0000 which I believe is a prototype before production. Looking at how the tractor is built mostly confirms my thoughts on this. Also at one time while researching this tractor a dealer told me that this tractor was not supposed to be sold to the public.



Did the 5200 ever actually reach production status? I don't believe Agco has a parts listing online for the 5200 tractor. That seems strange for a production unit...probably not more than a handful ever made.


If I remember right I have seen a number 27. I do have a copy of a parts book I got from someone several years ago. It is crude but has some info.

Most everything is the same as the 4000 series except for the engine and trans stuff and front and rear axles. It turns out the Twin-disc spins the driveshafts backwards of the 4000 series so different center sections were used.

My tractor had the trans mounts for the original MF trans torch cut out and the twin-disc mounts welded in.
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WTW
Posted 12/6/2024 22:40 (#10998800 - in reply to #10998763)
Subject: RE: MF 5200 What's it worth


Winkler, Manitoba Canada
ks8780 - 12/6/2024 21:03

WTW - 12/6/2024 21:50

ks8780 - 12/6/2024 18:54

Now here's the deal. Serial number 5650 00 0000 which I believe is a prototype before production. Looking at how the tractor is built mostly confirms my thoughts on this. Also at one time while researching this tractor a dealer told me that this tractor was not supposed to be sold to the public.



Did the 5200 ever actually reach production status? I don't believe Agco has a parts listing online for the 5200 tractor. That seems strange for a production unit...probably not more than a handful ever made.


If I remember right I have seen a number 27. I do have a copy of a parts book I got from someone several years ago. It is crude but has some info.

Most everything is the same as the 4000 series except for the engine and trans stuff and front and rear axles. It turns out the Twin-disc spins the driveshafts backwards of the 4000 series so different center sections were used.

My tractor had the trans mounts for the original MF trans torch cut out and the twin-disc mounts welded in.


The mounts that were torched out may have been for a Versatile manual 12 speed transmission, the other offering in the 5200. From the parts pdf it would seem that even the Twindisc was sourced through Versatile.
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ks8780
Posted 12/7/2024 11:50 (#10999304 - in reply to #10998800)
Subject: RE: MF 5200 What's it worth



Jewell County KS
WTW - 12/6/2024 22:40

ks8780 - 12/6/2024 21:03

WTW - 12/6/2024 21:50

ks8780 - 12/6/2024 18:54

Now here's the deal. Serial number 5650 00 0000 which I believe is a prototype before production. Looking at how the tractor is built mostly confirms my thoughts on this. Also at one time while researching this tractor a dealer told me that this tractor was not supposed to be sold to the public.



Did the 5200 ever actually reach production status? I don't believe Agco has a parts listing online for the 5200 tractor. That seems strange for a production unit...probably not more than a handful ever made.


If I remember right I have seen a number 27. I do have a copy of a parts book I got from someone several years ago. It is crude but has some info.

Most everything is the same as the 4000 series except for the engine and trans stuff and front and rear axles. It turns out the Twin-disc spins the driveshafts backwards of the 4000 series so different center sections were used.

My tractor had the trans mounts for the original MF trans torch cut out and the twin-disc mounts welded in.


The mounts that were torched out may have been for a Versatile manual 12 speed transmission, the other offering in the 5200. From the parts pdf it would seem that even the Twindisc was sourced through Versatile.



Could very well have been the versatile 12 spd. I would have to crawl under one of my 4000 series and look closer and compare.

If you are the guy that sent me the parts PDF several years ago thanks again. I just looked at the pdf again and see that I received it in 2015
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wall
Posted 12/6/2024 22:06 (#10998767 - in reply to #10998747)
Subject: RE: MF 5200 What's it worth


Built by McConnell Tractors Kinston, North Carolina between 1989-1991 after purchasing the four wheel drive portion of Massey Combine Corporation 

from the book Ultimate Tractor Power volume Two by Peter D. Simpson 

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WTW
Posted 12/6/2024 22:09 (#10998769 - in reply to #10998767)
Subject: RE: MF 5200 What's it worth


Winkler, Manitoba Canada
wall - 12/6/2024 21:06

Built by McConnell Tractors Kinston, North Carolina between 1989-1991 after purchasing the four wheel drive portion of Massey Combine Corporation 

from the book Ultimate Tractor Power volume Two by Peter D. Simpson 



Yes, I think most people who are interested in a 5200 would know the history. Photo ripped off the internet.

Edited by WTW 12/6/2024 22:11




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Old#7
Posted 12/6/2024 22:27 (#10998789 - in reply to #10998601)
Subject: RE: MF 5200 What's it worth


N.C. IA		Dealer here had one out for demo back in the day, had the Detroit. Heck, maybe it was yours, who knows. Remember driving it and how impressive it was over our 4840. Quiet and pulled like a locomotive. Dropped a 7 shank (about as big as they made back then) DMI ripper in the ground and couldn’t even feel it back there. That particular one came with a microwave in the back right corner. Cool piece of machinery/history in my book. MF had some decent innovations, too bad they couldn’t keep it together.
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ks8780
Posted 12/6/2024 22:34 (#10998796 - in reply to #10998789)
Subject: RE: MF 5200 What's it worth



Jewell County KS		This one came with the microwave, a power inverter and a retractable trouble light. Microwave died and I have the inverter and light mounted in my service truck.
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onion farmer
Posted 12/6/2024 23:03 (#10998813 - in reply to #10998601)
Subject: RE: MF 5200 What's it worth


southeast Washington

I wanted one of those so bad back in the day. But I just keep running my 4880 and 4840.





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Clodbuster1
Posted 12/7/2024 05:30 (#10998888 - in reply to #10998813)
Subject: RE: MF 5200 What's it worth


Those look GREAT!!
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Next stop Valhalla
Posted 12/7/2024 01:57 (#10998856 - in reply to #10998601)
Subject: RE: MF 5200 What's it worth


NE Neb		I think the last ones on tractorhouse 10+ years ago were 55,000 each. They looked clean. I wouldn't part with it.
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danofarming
Posted 12/7/2024 07:02 (#10998949 - in reply to #10998601)
Subject: RE: MF 5200 What's it worth


With all of the BIG numbers being thrown out on value. I have a question for you. What are you going to do with it? Is it going to continue to sit in the fence row and rot? If so take someone's offer and allow them to refurbish it and keep it running. I failed to sell a 55 Massey Harris one time because I wanted to rebuild it myself, it wound up in the scrap yard bound for china.
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ks8780
Posted 12/7/2024 07:59 (#10999021 - in reply to #10998949)
Subject: RE: MF 5200 What's it worth



Jewell County KS
danofarming - 12/7/2024 07:02

With all of the BIG numbers being thrown out on value. I have a question for you. What are you going to do with it? Is it going to continue to sit in the fence row and rot? If so take someone's offer and allow them to refurbish it and keep it running. I failed to sell a 55 Massey Harris one time because I wanted to rebuild it myself, it wound up in the scrap yard bound for china.


There is that aspect also. For the last several years it has been used on an Icon rear blade and the scraper in the pics with some occasional farm use when in a pinch.
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Tazzerblue
Posted 12/7/2024 08:53 (#10999083 - in reply to #10999021)
Subject: RE: MF 5200 What's it worth


SW MN		Lots of good info, Like the last poster said. If its just going to sit outside and rot.. Sell to an avid collector, Old MF tractors are a pretty HOT item right now.. These thing go in cycles, just like the grain market. But like most of us we get attached to items we have, Me included.
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aintfarminfun
Posted 12/7/2024 09:20 (#10999118 - in reply to #10998601)
Subject: RE: MF 5200 What's it worth


Try asking Machinery Pete.
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BeerBudgetFarms
Posted 12/7/2024 13:06 (#10999366 - in reply to #10998601)
Subject: RE: MF 5200 What's it worth


there is a up coming Auction at Ted Everts in Indiana that has a 49 and 52 listed
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Massey1155
Posted 12/7/2024 16:00 (#10999555 - in reply to #10999366)
Subject: RE: MF 5200 What's it worth



NW Iowa		5200- 61K
4900-33K



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c_mayer
Posted 12/10/2024 07:50 (#11002929 - in reply to #10998601)
Subject: RE: MF 5200 What's it worth


Jeffersonville, OH		Man I love a 5200...We bid on the one last week but that's too much for us to have in the collection, we don't have a farming need for one quite yet.

If the local gentleman doesn't bite and you decide to sell, my Brother and I are always looking for one

Also, We have a parts book from back in the day for the 990 and 5200, and also the MM 1000. We sold a McConnel Marc 1000 that was at AGCO's proving grounds in Coldwater Ohio, and last I new Ward McConnel had ended back up with it years later. Dad might have sold a 990 as well before he started selling AGCO Star's, I don't remember all those. We sold a SLEW of Star's, probably more than anyone this far east if I had to bet...we had customers trading them every year or 2 so we had used ones to sell, I know one customer owned 12 of them over the years, and another had 4 at one time.

Chris
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BeerBudgetFarms
Posted 12/10/2024 09:43 (#11003087 - in reply to #11002929)
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c_mayer - 12/10/2024 07:50

Man I love a 5200...We bid on the one last week but that's too much for us to have in the collection, we don't have a farming need for one quite yet.

If the local gentleman doesn't bite and you decide to sell, my Brother and I are always looking for one

Also, We have a parts book from back in the day for the 990 and 5200, and also the MM 1000. We sold a McConnel Marc 1000 that was at AGCO's proving grounds in Coldwater Ohio, and last I new Ward McConnel had ended back up with it years later. Dad might have sold a 990 as well before he started selling AGCO Star's, I don't remember all those. We sold a SLEW of Star's, probably more than anyone this far east if I had to bet...we had customers trading them every year or 2 so we had used ones to sell, I know one customer owned 12 of them over the years, and another had 4 at one time.

Chris


well my Dad was a field test engineer for Massey . Between the actual tractor and implement testing we git to put a lot of hrs in many 4880 and 4840s on our farm from disk and field cultivators and chisel plows we had free us of them
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c_mayer
Posted 12/10/2024 11:56 (#11003228 - in reply to #11003087)
Subject: RE: MF 5200 What's it worth


Jeffersonville, OH
BeerBudgetFarms - 12/10/2024 10:43
well my Dad was a field test engineer for Massey . Between the actual tractor and implement testing we git to put a lot of hrs in many 4880 and 4840s on our farm from disk and field cultivators and chisel plows we had free us of them



That's awesome!! We were going after the 5200, but if the right 48/4900 came along we'd always look at those....we just like the oddball stuff, McConnels, 5200's, AGCO Stars, etc

Chris
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JAGSVIP
Posted 12/10/2024 20:58 (#11003875 - in reply to #10998601)
Subject: RE: MF 5200 What's it worth


Urbana, OH		Following
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