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jimmyjim
Posted 10/2/2024 07:53 (#10912183)
Subject: Is the time close where we can just buy direct from seed companies?


I wish we could just buy direct from any seed company. Would save me money, headaches, and their typical BS.

Most farmers under 45 or 50 are internet savvy enough to figure it out on their own, how long before we kick the dealers down the road?

Let's get rid of dealerships and the pointless job of a seed salesman... I wanna buy from the company direct at MSRP



Edited by jimmyjim 10/2/2024 07:53
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doathlon
Posted 10/2/2024 07:56 (#10912188 - in reply to #10912183)
Subject: RE: Is the time close where we can just buy direct from seed companies?


Because its sales. They make money with salesman.
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neazflcorn
Posted 10/2/2024 08:20 (#10912222 - in reply to #10912183)
Subject: RE: Is the time close where we can just buy direct from seed companies?


There's a duopoly in place and the status quo works for them. Nothing's gonna change anytime soon.
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ctnfarms
Posted 10/2/2024 08:25 (#10912230 - in reply to #10912183)
Subject: RE: Is the time close where we can just buy direct from seed companies?


NW IA		I have a great dealer that helps me a lot. Not sure if i would want to kick him down the road. All depends on your dealer.
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JAnderson
Posted 10/2/2024 08:26 (#10912233 - in reply to #10912183)
Subject: RE: Is the time close where we can just buy direct from seed companies?


McCanna, ND		When you have issues who are you going to complain to? Company rep isn’t going to deal with 1000 farmers when 10 dealers can do the work for him sorting out what’s an actual problem and who’s just crying wolf.
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hinfarm
Posted 10/2/2024 08:33 (#10912243 - in reply to #10912183)
Subject: RE: Is the time close where we can just buy direct from seed companies?



Amherst WI		There might be a place for that but I don’t think the majority would go for that.

I’ve sold seed for over 20 years and 99% of what has been sold is because I’ve asked for the sale. Most people don’t buy without asking.

FBN thought it could get away with being that type of setup and they were going to be the cheapest and most transparent company there was. Well after they captured the 5% of the market (I’m pulling that number out of the air) they didn’t get any more. So they started to add people, then after they did that they added community builders (dealers) and basically turned into what they were trying to avoid. Now their no-name seed is as expensive if not more expensive than what I sell as branded seed, but without the local support you’d want with it for paying the premium.
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15862
Posted 10/2/2024 08:47 (#10912262 - in reply to #10912183)
Subject: RE: Is the time close where we can just buy direct from seed companies?


Hey that exact model is in the works. We should have full website rollout by the end of October. You will be able to purchase a full seed line of corn and soybeans with your idea in mind.

www.customfarmseed.com.

Stay tuned!

Edited by 15862 10/2/2024 08:57
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Tomcat
Posted 10/2/2024 08:52 (#10912266 - in reply to #10912183)
Subject: RE: Is the time close where we can just buy direct from seed companies?



Ludington/Manistee MI area		Wasn’t that Fielders Choice? That was a raging success. :).
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hinfarm
Posted 10/2/2024 11:15 (#10912438 - in reply to #10912266)
Subject: RE: Is the time close where we can just buy direct from seed companies?



Amherst WI		Actually it was very successful, but in the infinite wisdom of Monsanto they canned it because it was cannibalizing margin from selling it cheap through FC.

If there was too much of Gold Country XYZ or Jung ABC that’s where it ended up at a steep discount compared to selling it on the open market to companies like Renk, Croplan, LG ect if they were looking for more of that hybrid.
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senorthdakota
Posted 10/2/2024 14:08 (#10912584 - in reply to #10912438)
Subject: RE: Is the time close where we can just buy direct from seed companies?


Yes I liked fielders choice... use to plant a lot of it and was very competitive corn here.... yep than Monsanto bought them out an magically poofff. Closed up shop....
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Tank2516
Posted 10/2/2024 08:56 (#10912269 - in reply to #10912183)
Subject: RE: Is the time close where we can just buy direct from seed companies?


My dealers do a lot for us. Such as putting in plots for hybrids that will do well in my soils and talking to local reps for the same purpose. They also deal with the returns and the switching of numbers something I think would be a headache not only for me, but also the companies. As the company would have to deal with many individuals instead of a few dealers. The companies would most likely stop taking returns and I would not like that.
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CS_307
Posted 10/2/2024 09:28 (#10912314 - in reply to #10912183)
Subject: RE: Is the time close where we can just buy direct from seed companies?


Ohio		It sounds like you should be a hybrid85 customer. Until companies like that gain serious market share there will not be a change to the marketplace.
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mac4440
Posted 10/2/2024 09:37 (#10912327 - in reply to #10912183)
Subject: RE: Is the time close where we can just buy direct from seed companies?



How many things can you buy directly from the manufacturer?
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buck1400
Posted 10/2/2024 10:53 (#10912424 - in reply to #10912327)
Subject: RE: Is the time close where we can just buy direct from seed companies?


West Central Ohio		Not many but was surprised when I was looking for a particular model of clothes dryer. Searched online and the best price was direct from Whirlpool web site.
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Jay NE Ohio
Posted 10/2/2024 11:24 (#10912449 - in reply to #10912183)
Subject: RE: Is the time close where we can just buy direct from seed companies?



northeastern Ohio
jimmyjim - 10/2/2024 07:53

I wish we could just buy direct from any seed company. Would save me money, headaches, and their typical BS.

Most farmers under 45 or 50 are internet savvy enough to figure it out on their own, how long before we kick the dealers down the road?

Let's get rid of dealerships and the pointless job of a seed salesman... I wanna buy from the company direct at MSRP



I agree with you, but it seems in some areas there is significant pushback. A lot of customers want someone local to do returns, exchanges, field scouting, ect. I don't want any of that, but know that it is included in the cost of seed anyhow.

I was a seed dealer for 10 years. Took orders, delivered seed. Only time I got called out after delivery was when I sold low germ Stine soybeans and the customer wanted me to do a population check. That was one time in 10 years.

I did do test plots on my own farm and shared that info with customers to help make seed selection decisions.

Monsanto bought Fielders Choice and then mothballed it a few years later. Much like JD bought the rights to the bi-rotor combine and then shelved it.

For my own farm, I don't bother the seed dealer unless I need more seed. I don't return extra seed, I don't need him to look at my fields. Direct sales would work for me, but I understand why others want local service (dealer).
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StarAg
Posted 10/2/2024 12:05 (#10912483 - in reply to #10912183)
Subject: RE: Is the time close where we can just buy direct from seed companies?


NC Iowa
jimmyjim - 10/2/2024 07:53

I wish we could just buy direct from any seed company. Would save me money, headaches, and their typical BS.

Most farmers under 45 or 50 are internet savvy enough to figure it out on their own, how long before we kick the dealers down the road?

Let's get rid of dealerships and the pointless job of a seed salesman... I wanna buy from the company direct at MSRP




The best dealers understand local soil types, fertility needs by hybrid and the watch outs like disease resistance to things like Tar Spot.
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Moose333
Posted 10/2/2024 12:25 (#10912512 - in reply to #10912483)
Subject: RE: Is the time close where we can just buy direct from seed companies?


NW Wisconsin		X2

Sounds like some people have poor dealers

Edited by Moose333 10/2/2024 12:25
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jimmyjim
Posted 10/2/2024 14:08 (#10912583 - in reply to #10912483)
Subject: RE: Is the time close where we can just buy direct from seed companies?


I do all that myself, soil sampling, and looks at plots for disease info and N plots for response. Most dealers are worthless, but yes my dealer does a damn good job if the customer wants it, I just do it because I like too and trust myself more than anyone else anyway.

So where is my discount? That's why I want to buy direct.

Edited by jimmyjim 10/2/2024 14:09
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