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farkfamilyfarm

Posted 6/8/2024 07:50 (#10767594)
Subject: Massey Ferguson combine? Pros and cons?

West Manchester Ohio

Just looking at what’s out there. I was looking at a 9695 which would be around 2010 era. For our next combine should we consider one? We have a good supporting dealer nearby, but they sell more Gleaners than Massey. I just want keep an open mind. Currently running a 2366, and completely satisfied, except she is getting some hours on her.
We do corn beans and wheat, and bale the straw. Let’s hear from from you Massey guys. Thank you!

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c_mayer

Posted 6/8/2024 08:24 (#10767652 - in reply to #10767594)
Subject: RE: Massey Ferguson combine? Pros and cons?

Jeffersonville, OH

If I am your "close, good supporting dealer" then I will tell you straight...we stock what MF combine parts we have history on...not tons. As we build history, we will stock more, there just isn't a ton in this area.

If it's North Star, I'd say they are similar, but I won't speak for them definitively.

You didn't ask about it, but since you are "close" to both of us, why not a Gleaner?

The MF combine is a good machine, especially the class 6, no major issues, good clean sample, decent capacity...Parts availability on the class 6 should be very good for a long time yet, as the class 6 saw WAY fewer changes than the Class 7 and 8 machines over the years, so lots of commonality.

Chris

farkfamilyfarm

Posted 6/8/2024 12:00 (#10767913 - in reply to #10767652)
Subject: RE: Massey Ferguson combine? Pros and cons?

West Manchester Ohio

Thanks Chris I was hoping you would weigh in on this. We will be looking at Gleaner for sure when the time comes
We are maybe a little closer to North Star but not much

c_mayer

Posted 6/10/2024 07:46 (#10769865 - in reply to #10767913)
Subject: RE: Massey Ferguson combine? Pros and cons?

Jeffersonville, OH

farkfamilyfarm - 6/8/2024 13:00

Thanks Chris I was hoping you would weigh in on this. We will be looking at Gleaner for sure when the time comes
We are maybe a little closer to North Star but not much

I figured you were...if you're close to both, you can't go wrong either way, we both try and stock lots of parts, and do our best on service as well.

I won't try and talk you out of a MF combine, but personally, I don't think they do anything better than a Gleaner either. You can buy a MF cheaper because people are scared of them now that they don't make them anymore, so there is that.

Chris

Massey1155

Posted 6/8/2024 08:55 (#10767688 - in reply to #10767594)
Subject: RE: Massey Ferguson combine? Pros and cons?

NW Iowa

I have the gleaner version of that an '11 A66
Made those till '11, not much for updates.
I like my power fold extension.
Edit- Before you buy one check the machine drive clutch and the
output shaft on the engine. Loosen the main two belts to do this.
Great combines heaviest built axial since they started them back in the '80's

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farkfamilyfarm

Posted 6/8/2024 12:13 (#10767929 - in reply to #10767688)
Subject: RE: Massey Ferguson combine? Pros and cons?

West Manchester Ohio

Does the A series have the rotor front to back like Massey and IH? I thought Gleaner rotor went crosswise… I’m learning

Jay NE Ohio

Posted 6/8/2024 12:31 (#10767952 - in reply to #10767929)
Subject: RE: Massey Ferguson combine? Pros and cons?

northeastern Ohio

farkfamilyfarm - 6/8/2024 12:13

Does the A series have the rotor front to back like Massey and IH? I thought Gleaner rotor went crosswise… I’m learning

The Gleaner A series is a Massey painted to look like a Gleaner.

Next stop Valhalla

Posted 6/8/2024 09:45 (#10767763 - in reply to #10767594)
Subject: RE: Massey Ferguson combine? Pros and cons?

NE Neb

Good machines. Always been MF combine. I demoed a 9770 and stayed with MF. Look at wear behind the front beater and inlet of rotor.

Tazzerblue

Posted 6/8/2024 10:08 (#10767788 - in reply to #10767594)
Subject: RE: Massey Ferguson combine? Pros and cons?

SW MN

I purchased MF 9540 last summer. I wanted a simple machine, I repair most of my equipment. I would look at this series, direct belt drive rotor, 4.0 bu/sec unloading. V-cooling. Just wish AGCO would have put the updated cab on this machine.. Too Bad they didn't Advertise and push this machine, works Great. Not Perfect, but better than most. Transmission Gearbox had issue's, I have to pull mine. It had been updated by original owner. Oil sample had brass in it. Other issue right now is 24 volt starting system. I think they only had this 1,or 2 years, then went back to 12 volt.
Original owner now has 9545 and 9795. His son like the 9795 a little better. Good luck.

Detroit

Posted 6/8/2024 15:33 (#10768111 - in reply to #10767788)
Subject: RE: Massey Ferguson combine? Pros and cons?

Crawfordsville, Arkansas

I’ve had a 8780, 9790, 9895, and two 9560’s. The last 2 were the total new design. They were the best overall.

So we demo’d a S680 and 35’ Deere flex Draper. Ran it along side the 9560 and our old 8780. The big Massey was pushing a 40’ flex draper. More output and burned about half the fuel the S680 did. I had 800/42 duals on it and the Deere had 900 r2 singles. It was a dog in the mud. A few times I thought I had stuck it. Dad was in my 9560 running in 2 wheel drive!

Overall I liked the 9560 the best but if I were buying one today I’d get another 9895. As simple a machine as you can ever think of. Cat powered is nice also. She was thirsty when I pushed it hard but it never let me down.

I will say the 9790 was a gutless wonder until I talked to the right person at Cummins then it was a good machine. 40 or 50 more horses made it a different machine. Never ran the later Sisu powered ones so I can’t say there.

Edited by Detroit 6/8/2024 15:34

JarrodACFan

Posted 6/8/2024 15:52 (#10768136 - in reply to #10767594)
Subject: RE: Massey Ferguson combine? Pros and cons?

Delaware County, IN

We ran a 9695 for about 6 years and now have an S67 Gleaner. The Massey was definitely not a bad combine and we liked it overall. They are simple and don't have a lot of moving parts. They have a hydraulic rotor drive, which seemed to be kind of prone to plug if you find a slug of green soybeans, especially with an auger head. They do have a rotor reverser though, which was handy. We had issues with the unload auger design. It's made like a grain cart (splits apart when it folds). If you fold it back when the auger was still full and the grain tank isn't clear empty, the grain that falls out of the split can't run back into the tank. The next time you open the auger, the grain keeps it from opening all the way. We burnt off a handful of unloader drive belts. Maybe this issue was just on ours. The combine did a good job and could be set to make a clean sample. I'd not be too scared of one.

That being said, I do think the Gleaner is a better machine, at least in our conditions. The S67 has a fair bit more capacity than the Massey did. I can't say that either one of them has been unreliable, we had good luck with both machines.

We deal with North Star, which sounds like would be close to you. We have great luck there, they certainly know their combines well. I have heard nothing but good things about Mayer's as well, but don't have any first hand experience.

dunlogon

Posted 6/8/2024 17:47 (#10768247 - in reply to #10768136)
Subject: RE: Massey Ferguson combine? Pros and cons?

Stayner, Ontario

Update to a newer Case/Int. These are simple machines.

Dave9110

Posted 6/8/2024 17:57 (#10768260 - in reply to #10767594)
Subject: RE: Massey Ferguson combine? Pros and cons?

north-central Indiana west of Fulton

If you are familiar with a 2366 and satisfied, why not upgrade to a newer Caseih? Would be more out there to choose from I would think,too.

farkfamilyfarm

Posted 6/8/2024 18:30 (#10768295 - in reply to #10768260)
Subject: RE: Massey Ferguson combine? Pros and cons?

West Manchester Ohio

Dave you are right, and selection is much greater. I’m just trying to stay open minded about it. I love my Axial Flow

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ironjock

Posted 6/8/2024 21:55 (#10768577 - in reply to #10768295)
Subject: RE: Massey Ferguson combine? Pros and cons?

ohio

good to have an open mind and the Massey is probably a good machine but there are quite a few 5088 5130 or 5140 axial flows that you won't have to retrain yourself with. Also you will have to deal with heads too. More CIH dealers .

Busted Piston

Posted 6/8/2024 18:57 (#10768321 - in reply to #10767594)
Subject: RE: Massey Ferguson combine? Pros and cons?

Go drive one and I think you will like the visibility over the CIH machines. I did a ride and drive in a new flagship and while I cannot say there was anything wrong with the red one I personally felt boxed in compared to the agco models.

Tester1486

Posted 6/8/2024 21:41 (#10768568 - in reply to #10767594)
Subject: RE: Massey Ferguson combine? Pros and cons?

We have run one for two years and we like ours

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BobNESD

Posted 6/8/2024 23:47 (#10768668 - in reply to #10768568)
Subject: RE: Massey Ferguson combine? Pros and cons?

I should hire you to shine my equipment! That Massey red is the best looking red in farm equipment, I think! I have run a yellow Massey 9790 for the past 11 years, a Challenger 670. It’s been a good combine, like others have said, very simple to work on yourself, which we like to do. I would still like to own one of the latest 9545 or 65 models someday before I can’t find a clean low hour one. While still a simple machine, I’m sure they are loaded with computers and way more electronics than my old girl though! I hope Agco keeps supporting these combines for a long time yet, even though they don’t build them anymore. I did run a 2010 9795 for one fall when my 670 got hit by a drunk. It’s basically the same machine as my 670 except with metric bolts and more computers and electronics, had the same rotor and concaves, but the Sisu engine felt like it had way more power than my C9 Cat, even though it was only rated at ten more HP. Also way better cold starting. The straight through unloading auger system on the 9795 is pretty fast and makes a lot of sense, but like another has said, it’s best to try to let it empty out before stopping it or folding it back, we plugged it with wet corn once by shutting it off full and trying to restart it. I think the V-cool system with the automatic reversing fan would be pretty nice on the 9500 and 9505 machines, I can’t imagine not having to worry about cleaning off the radiator all the time!

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Next stop Valhalla

Posted 6/9/2024 01:13 (#10768692 - in reply to #10768668)
Subject: RE: Massey Ferguson combine? Pros and cons?

NE Neb

Your dang right that sisu has more power! Good engines. Easy on fuel for what they do. I would like to jump to a 95-40,45,60,65 but it's tough to beat a 9795. Probably one of the best combines made.

Albert

Posted 6/9/2024 05:11 (#10768713 - in reply to #10767594)
Subject: RE: Massey Ferguson combine? Pros and cons?

SE Indiana

We’ve run a challenger 670B (9795). When I went to look at it before purchase I took a local independent mechanic with me to help look it over. He was an IH trained mechanic and works on a lot of red combines. He committed on how heavy it was built in key wear areas and that it was simpler than the similar red machine. We have had few problems with it in the years we have owned it. It runs a 35 Draper head fine and we carry an 8 row corn head. I don’t think you would be disappointed and I’m betting much less maintenance than the case/IH machine.

mrtiffany

Posted 6/9/2024 09:22 (#10768947 - in reply to #10768713)
Subject: RE: Massey Ferguson combine? Pros and cons?

Redwood Falls, MN

We have a Gleaner A65(Massey 9690), a 9795 and a 9545. We had a R62 Gleaner before the A65. When we were combine shopping back in 2009 or so we really liked the simplicity of the A65 and the ease of access to all the threshing components. While the R/S series Gleaner combines are quite simple with good capacity, we liked the single, wider feeder system, the lack of accelerator rolls, accessibility to the sides of the rotor. The 9675 will very likely have a smaller grain tank than a similar S Gleaner but unloading speed will be faster. Since we got the A65, we upgraded to a 9540 and now the 9545. They are simple, efficient machines and the SISU engines have proven to be very reliable and fuel efficient. We do our own fixing and really like the lack of moving parts on these machines vs a CIH or Deere of similar vintage. No shoe augers, no transition cone, easy access to everything mainly, intuitive grain flow from rotor to grain tank with minimal changing direction(improves grain quality), 1 cross-auger in the grain tank, etc. They do have some issues with tough, green stem soybeans but the ability to reverse the rotor usually allows you to unslug it from the cab by rocking it back and forth. Like mentioned, check for wear behind front beater behind feeder chain and look at the cascade pan to see if it's the updated perforated one. It's easiest to see behind the front beater by raising the feeder house, opening the rock trap and sticking your phone up to take a picture behind the beater. As for the cascade pan, the perforated one really adds to the capacity of the machine in corn really and allows the clean grain from the front of the rotor to fall directly into the clean grain auger and not run through the chaffer and sieve. Open up the side panels on the left side of the machine and its right there to see. We raise corn, soybeans for seed and cereal rye for grain. The nice part about the Massey vs the CIH you have for straw is the ability to roll back the chopper and not run it all through the chopper.

The A65 and 9795 are used mainly for soybeans, as we raise foundation seed for a company with 200+ varieties a year and need to cleanout between each one. While 1 machine is getting cleaned out, the other one is harvesting and just trade out the dirty one for the clean out and keep going. I also have a CIH 1660 and ran a 2388 and JD 9670 doing soybeans and would hands down prefer to own/cleanout the Massey designed machine for simplicity, grain quality and capacity. Sorry, that got long.

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