Posted 5/2/2024 18:27 (#10726510) Subject: Nitrogen from lightning
Did anyone go to Precision Plantings PTI farm winter workshop and hear them talk about how they were isolating nitrogen from lightning storms and having it in liquid form? Pretty curious on that as they didn’t go into much detail other than it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. If anyone remembers the what or the how / more details on it please comment. Thanks
Posted 5/3/2024 10:13 (#10727222 - in reply to #10726510) Subject: RE: Nitrogen from lightning
NW IL
Search earlier posts about Green Lightning.
After a series of phone calls, that Precision trial was basically the only study done last year. So this is VERY new in terms of field trials. I've talked to multiple individuals and consultants doing farm scale trials this year across the midwest. There seems to be at least a few hundred machines that are/will be delivered this season. So new they are still getting parts and manufacturing figured out (I was told they sent out new valves in one instance because original ones were not holding up to long term use.)
No one knows the exact mechanism that allows the proceesed water to "replace" nitrogen, and the company has told consultants to focus on brix and overall plant health rather than nitrate levels in any tissue or sap tests. So from that perspective it may be late Aug until yield differences can start to be calculated.
I personally have some theories but they get into the realm of quasi-science, ie structured water and energy storage within molecules.
If anyone wants to try some, I was told the company is selling it at the plant in KS for $.50 a gal. Just remember that the Precision study used over 100gal/ac sidedressed.
Posted 7/6/2024 06:53 (#10799991 - in reply to #10727222) Subject: RE: Nitrogen from lightning
Palestine Illinois
Let’s hear the theories. I am ready to go down the rabbit hole of water conditioning. We have the green lightning machine. It has a RO unit pretreating the water. Now the question is do we need to be structuring the water also? What makes a good water structuring device?
Posted 5/3/2024 13:21 (#10727415 - in reply to #10726510) Subject: RE: Nitrogen from lightning
fayette county, ohio
Back in the 70’s I remember my grandmother had huge tomatoe plants in her back yard. All was on stakes and each had a copper wire from the dirt to the top. She said it caught something from thunderstorms. I don’t remember all she said but I remember the wire and thunder storms
Posted 5/5/2024 11:58 (#10729460 - in reply to #10726510) Subject: RE: Nitrogen from lightning
Rolla, ND
Just the latest mix a little truth in with a great big lie and some farmers will buy it.
Lightning does produce plant avaiable nitrogen. A few lbs a year on an acre.
Norsk hydro did this with artificial lightning to produce nitric acid which was used as fertilizer.
There has been continued work on it. To be economical you just need really really cheap electricity.
Nitric acid is not more effective than other nitrogen fertilizers and indeed, if you managed to get any significant nitrogen production from their system, it would probably be a good defoliant.
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Nitrogen from lightning
