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johnwayne360
Posted 3/9/2024 07:58 (#10658297)
Subject: pros/cons of gooseneck trailer with dovetail


near dyersville iowa
I keep looking for a smaller trailer. Something around 10-12k capacity. Found a 12 ft gooseneck with a 4 ft dovetail-16 ft long. Ive never owned a trailer like this. Give me the pros/cons of the dovetail. Would be mostly for hauling a skidloader.
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hagieman
Posted 3/9/2024 08:05 (#10658312 - in reply to #10658297)
Subject: RE: pros/cons of gooseneck trailer with dovetail


get a tilt bed trailer
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steerstopper
Posted 3/9/2024 08:24 (#10658357 - in reply to #10658312)
Subject: RE: pros/cons of gooseneck trailer with dovetail


hagieman - 3/9/2024 08:05

get a tilt bed trailer


Curious about how much light weight the tilt option adds?
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WLC
Posted 3/9/2024 10:16 (#10658559 - in reply to #10658312)
Subject: RE: pros/cons of gooseneck trailer with dovetail


SW Oklahoma
I’ve got a tilt trailer that i haul my skid steers on. Easy safe loading without ramps
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Lone Wolf Picker
Posted 3/9/2024 08:09 (#10658321 - in reply to #10658297)
Subject: RE: pros/cons of gooseneck trailer with dovetail


Black Hawk County, IA
Mine is 21’ deck, 9’ Hyd beaver tail. I love it. Winch on the front, and drag anything with wheels upon it. Tracked skid loader is a little rough going over center, but liveable. Goose-necks pull nicer than bumper trailers too. Will need something for traction on the tail when it’s wet, went for a heck of a ride once here.

Edited by Lone Wolf Picker 3/9/2024 08:11
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illinidirtfarmer
Posted 3/9/2024 08:09 (#10658322 - in reply to #10658297)
Subject: RE: pros/cons of gooseneck trailer with dovetail


WC IL
What else might you use it for?
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Herbie56
Posted 3/9/2024 08:13 (#10658332 - in reply to #10658297)
Subject: RE: pros/cons of gooseneck trailer with dovetail


Coles County, Illinois
Neighbor has a tracked Bobcat and a low metal decked trailer. He doesn't use ramps has 17.5 wheels. It doesn't have any dovetail either.

Edited by Herbie56 3/9/2024 08:15
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JAnderson
Posted 3/9/2024 08:17 (#10658343 - in reply to #10658297)
Subject: RE: pros/cons of gooseneck trailer with dovetail


McCanna, ND
You’re going to be backing on the skidsteer most/all of the time with deckover trailers. Dovetails also tend to drag going in/out of approach’s
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jd43
Posted 3/9/2024 08:37 (#10658387 - in reply to #10658343)
Subject: RE: pros/cons of gooseneck trailer with dovetail


Northeastern Pa.
We have 2 goosenecks with dove tails. Never had any issues and we have a lot of uneven ground. We haul round bales out of the fields with them. One is 30' with fold over ramps and the other is 25' were you lift the tail up and lock in place to have 5' more flat deck. My friend had a 20' with no tail and it wasn't fun to load his tractor on. He bought ramps that cost more than a trailer with a tail. I would never buy one without a tail. You never know what you might need to haul. Whatever you do be careful loading a tractor and especially a skid steer when the ramps are wet. There was a farmer near us that died a couple weeks before his retirement auction. He somehow tipped the tractor over loading it on a trailer.
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Larry_minn
Posted 3/9/2024 16:41 (#10659025 - in reply to #10658387)
Subject: RE: pros/cons of gooseneck trailer with dovetail


jd43 - 3/10/2024 07:37

We have 2 goosenecks with dove tails. Never had any issues and we have a lot of uneven ground. We haul round bales out of the fields with them. One is 30' with fold over ramps and the other is 25' were you lift the tail up and lock in place to have 5' more flat deck. My friend had a 20' with no tail and it wasn't fun to load his tractor on. He bought ramps that cost more than a trailer with a tail. I would never buy one without a tail. You never know what you might need to haul. Whatever you do be careful loading a tractor and especially a skid steer when the ramps are wet. There was a farmer near us that died a couple weeks before his retirement auction. He somehow tipped the tractor over loading it on a trailer.

I would not consider without a dovetail. MUCH safer. 12’ is too short imo. I bought a 18’ tandem axles. Online auction. *it was listed as 20’* I really miss those extra 2’. Full 5x5 ft bales are tough/impossible to load 8 bottom row. *I have raised basket over fenders, and 10’ wide supports so 2 up/down transitions tight bales work* BARELY. Last two sit in air while last few on top if straw/cornstalk, lite bales. But drive to road they are seated, tighten ratchets.
Agree look at 14’ dump trailer. Much more versatile. Learn to watch truck. You want a little squat.

Hauling in-laws stuff. 7x16 enclosed. 980lb player piano, lots of other hefty stuff. Wife’s half ton. I got good weight balance. In-laws had 99 F-250 7.3 psd. I kept telling him he had too much tongue weight.
We had to unload 2/3 to redistribute the weight. A 20’ open car/implement trailer. Now I understand how he blew both rear tires his first load. 740 mikes each way.
Look up tongue weight using bathroom scale. You need a 4x4 @6’ long, couple board scraps, tape measure. Iirc they recommend pipe scraps? It’s easy. I just eyeball.
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DoubleJFarmsWA
Posted 3/9/2024 09:29 (#10658489 - in reply to #10658343)
Subject: RE: pros/cons of gooseneck trailer with dovetail


Eastern Washington
Mine drags on some entrances. I have flip over ramps, and added a winch, I really like it. We have an older tilt deck (with pintle), hated loading backhoe and some other equipment.
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Trint
Posted 3/9/2024 11:13 (#10658628 - in reply to #10658297)
Subject: RE: pros/cons of gooseneck trailer with dovetail



North Central OH
Assuming its a deck over you are going to need the tail to load equipment easily, otherwise the ramps are going to have to be quite long. Both of our trailers have popup grates on their tails, I like that for easy conversion to flat use. Only con would be the rear of trailer is lower and could drag the ground at times.
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Mac46147
Posted 3/9/2024 11:38 (#10658649 - in reply to #10658297)
Subject: RE: pros/cons of gooseneck trailer with dovetail


My opinion would be the gooseneck will pull nicer and the dovetail would make loading equipment much better.
16 ft is plent long for a skid loader but I wonder if you get it if you would quickly wish you had gotten a 20. I have a 20 and if I want to go somewhere with a couple attachments, I fill it up.
I think a tilt would be great for hauling a loader. Especially a track loader. But I’ve never had one.
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gw321
Posted 3/9/2024 12:26 (#10658719 - in reply to #10658649)
Subject: RE: pros/cons of gooseneck trailer with dovetail


south central IL
I pulled a 25’ with a 5’ dove tail and flat fold ramps that made it 30 foot flat deck for years. I never had an issue at all. I just upgraded to a hydraulic dove tail. If you’re loading anything a dove tail is a must in my book.
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Kelly
Posted 3/9/2024 13:09 (#10658776 - in reply to #10658297)
Subject: RE: pros/cons of gooseneck trailer with dovetail


NC KS
That is a super short trailer. It would be very easy to get in and out of tight spots but wouldn't haul very much.
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johnwayne360
Posted 3/9/2024 13:33 (#10658811 - in reply to #10658776)
Subject: RE: pros/cons of gooseneck trailer with dovetail


near dyersville iowa
one of the reasons im on the fence about it. 12 ft isnt much to haul a skid. cant put anything on the dovetail until its folded up.
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Abomb
Posted 3/9/2024 14:12 (#10658870 - in reply to #10658297)
Subject: RE: pros/cons of gooseneck trailer with dovetail


Might not work for you, but a flatbed pickup and a bumper hitch dump trailer is a pretty slick combo for skidsteer hauling. You can put an extra bucket or something on the flatbed. The trailer is low enough and ramps long enough to drive the skid on and back off. Dont really need to chain it down either. Plus the trailer is handy for all sorts of other stuff.
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Cliff SEIA
Posted 3/9/2024 15:07 (#10658923 - in reply to #10658297)
Subject: RE: pros/cons of gooseneck trailer with dovetail


I think you'll have a hard time getting the weight of a skid steer balanced on that short of a trailer.
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Rowcropcattleman
Posted 3/9/2024 20:02 (#10659270 - in reply to #10658297)
Subject: RE: pros/cons of gooseneck trailer with dovetail


Missouri
Don’t buy anything less than 20’. Like Cliff said hard to balance, no demand for a trailer that small. I could make argument for not less than 25’ better.
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GM Guy
Posted 3/9/2024 20:22 (#10659290 - in reply to #10658297)
Subject: RE: pros/cons of gooseneck trailer with dovetail


NW KS/ SC ID
Depends on what you are hauling on average.

Skid steer, I think I'd get a car trailer style deck.

As far as the dovetails, not all are created equal. PJ has iffy paint prep and a host of other issues, but they have the best tail angle. It won't hardly ever drag, and there is no pronounced ledge to climb over at the top of the dove. Most of their competitors either drag or have a ledge.

If you are loading alot of low clearance things, a straight tail with slide in ramps is better because you can park the trailer axles in a low spot and change your ramp angle dramatically. What would belly out on a fixed angle dovetail will clear with a little forethought in parking with a straight tail with ramps. I've actually loaded a 4 door sedan on my straight tail deck over before, can't say that for a dovetail.

For your gooseneck, unless you are pulling with a half ton id really consider getting at least 20-25ft. Still very maneuverable and a lot more useful. Short trailers can be a pain. Hard to balance a load if you can't move it forward off the axles.
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